eating Nurofen

[chugs]

i can get splittables but they no longer have the codiene on one half....its mixed together now (i found this out with my trusty reagent)

 

[peaked]

N+ is no longer a favoured choice for us codeine fiends. CWE is definately the way to go, panadeine works well but the generic Sigma "Pain Tablets" are at the top of my list. The Sigma "Pain Tabsules" work pretty well too, tho the end extraction looks yellowy from the dye in the pills.

My 2c reagrding the CWE - if the water is noticeably cloudy (as in, cloudy from heaps of stuff floating in it) you've fucked up. Throw it away. Never drink murky extractions - its not worth the risk, it could just be a bit of filler or it could be 5 grams ibu or paracetemol. It should look clear, with only the slightest traces throughout the liquid visible on close inspection. That said, pills that have some colouring in it will usually leave some kind of colour in the end solution aswell (i.e a blue or a yellow colour). Particularly with the yellow, it can make it appear more "murkey" but on closer inspection, the colouring just highlights the small amount of solids in the solution.

On comparison to the old splittable N+ and panadeine forte, I believe a CWE to generally be, at best, about 50% efficient. Reasoning for this is that, on the fortes or n+ at 60mg, I felt noticeably more effected than from a CWE on 120mg worth of codeine.

For those new to the codeine scene, I think this passage from the vaults of erowid describes the codeine experience rather well.

Codeine is a _excellent_ opiate to start experimenting with. Although the euphoria is not as intense as that experienced with the stronger opiates, the euphoria can still be quite intense. It also must be noted that like most other drugs, some experience is required before the full effects can be noticed and enjoyed. The best dose to start at is the 30mg - 60mg dosage. That way you won't experience many adverse effects and you can continue to take this small amount until you feel the desired effects, after that you can increase the dosage as you please. Most people settle around the 250mg mark for the best euphoria, with the least side effects. The best idea is to take in a situation where you won't become distracted. You can get yourself into a comfortable position and relax because you will become _quite_ relaxed. It may take 5 to 20 times before you can appreciate the effects. The effects are subtle like marijuana and it takes some time before you come to recognize them all.

The LD50 (lethal dose for %50) is 800mg in the average person. Death from codeine, unlike most opiates, includes restlessness, seizures and eventually death from respiratory arrest. Some sources indicate that the lower-end LD50 may be around 500mg, so doses above 450mg are in the red zone.

[Erowid Note: We believe the LD50 data listed above is based on a single paper which reported a human death at 12 mg/kg. Unfortunately the route of administration for this death was not listed. Without this information, the report is basically meaningless. Estimating an LD50 in humans is nearly impossible as LD50 data cannot be directly interpreted between humans and other species. . Known oral LD50s for codeine sulphate are: 430 mg/kg in rats and 395 mg/kg in mice. Oral LD50s for codeine phosphate include: 266 mg/kg in rats, 237 mg/kg in mice, and 100 mg/kg in rabbits. It should be remembered that a dose which can be easily tolerated by someone with a significate opiate tolerance could kill an individual with no tolerance.]

Erowid Codeine FAQ

 

[dtasrt_lk]

Codeine

Just want some help getting this right.

I am doing my extractions from N+ because its most easily accesable to me. The first time I did an extraction I used 8 of them which is roughly 100mg. I got it to work allright. The next day I extracted twice that and I stirred a lot more and the solution was much more bitter than the day before. I got a much better high but I still wasnt satisfied I know it has more potential.

How can I potentiate the codeine high. Should I just bump it up to 300mg. I got a slight stomach discomfort with the 200mg but I think thats just because i used a hanky to filter off the ibuprofen and fillers and some(ibuprofen) was left over at the bottom when i drank it.

I dont want itchies, i know how bad it can get with high doses of dxm

any help appreciatated. Am I safe in saying there are a lot of opioid users in aus?


ps i am aware that codeine isnt as strong as morphine but I still think im doing something not quite right

 

[ilikeacid]

Search engines are fun ..
Try lab filters, they work much better than hankeys.. or even coffee filters.. Also I found that when doing over 10 tablets in an extraction, I halved it and did 2 seperate extractions since the ib sludge blocks the filter and you won't get a high codeine yeild.. also chuck in extra pills to compensate, you always lose at least 2 tablets worth..
Also, codeine will often give you an upset stomach anyway, it may not have been the ib. When I have over 200mg I always feel a bit sick, but the high is worth it

 

[frannabis]

Where do u get lab filters from? I've been looking for them!!

 

[Fry-d-]

Merged with the thread with all the answers. Always best to search first

 

[chugs]

are coffee filters capable of filtering at the micron level? Cotten wool should be good for filter right? So if i cover the top of my vessel with cotten wool. Pour the 10degree solution of say 50mls of water of crushed tablets into the wool the liquid passing through should be filtered codiene?

i've been using chemist own - but strangely even when eating them whole (and i don't really have any tolerance as i barely use any opiate any more) i could spare they don't have 10mg of codiene in them....

 

[Diacetylus]

How can I potentiate the codeine high.

Try having about 25mg's of an anti-histamine, my preferance being Doxylamine Succinate (Restavit). Be warned though, you must wait until the Codeine has been fully metabolised by the liver, otherwise it will have a reverse affect, ie: de-potentiation. I say take the anti-histamine as you start feeling the Codeine kick in.

Should I just bump it up to 300mg.

This all depends on your tolerance. If you have almost no tolerance to Codeine 150-200mg's should be ideal. Do not exceed 350mg's of Codeine though, as it is somewhere at this dosage where the ceiling dosage is. (meaning, no matter how much more Codeine you have after that amount, you won't get higher).

I dont want itchies...

Codeine is quite notorious for releasing alot of histamine release. Much more-so than other stronger Opiates like Heroin and Oxycodone. The anti-histamine you would be using for potentiation should decrease it somewhat, but it won't completely eliminate the itchiness. You'll just have to learn to live with it, unfortunately.

Am I safe in saying there are a lot of opioid users in aus?

Well, there shouldn't be any danger in saying so, no. But, from my observations over the past, Opioids appear to be gaining more and more popularity in Australia's drug-culture. The stigma to Heroin will always remain to those who use other Opiate-related drugs though.
But yes, I know many who use Opioids, for pain relief, as a euphoriant and for an aid for comedowns from stimulants.

i am aware that codeine isnt as strong as morphine but I still think im doing something not quite right

Actually, once metabolised by the liver, I think it's something along the lines of 30% of the Codeine you have ingested is converted directly into Morphine. Don't be fooled into this though. By no means is Codeine as useful as Morphine, due to the "ceiling-dose" I mentioned earlier and Codeine also has a tendency to produce alot more unwanted side-effects in users than Morphine.

Please keep note that Codeine, under no circumstance should be administered intraveinously. There is a high risk of death, not only because of the massive histamine release, but because of many other problems. Plus, in order for Codeine to be affective, it must be ingested orally, so it will be broken down and metabolised by the liver. You won't get a high shooting Codeine.

Good luck, be careful.

 

[technoHarmony]

Actually, once metabolised by the liver, I think it's something along the lines of 30% of the Codeine you have ingested is converted directly into Morphine. Don't be fooled into this though. By no means is Codeine as useful as Morphine, due to the "ceiling-dose" I mentioned earlier and Codeine also has a tendency to produce alot more unwanted side-effects in users than Morphine.

10% of the codeine is converted to morphine.. IIRC

 

[dopess]

Just wondering what the correct amount of water to use would be when doing a cwe with 24 nurofen plus tabs (307mg of codeine)? I have just been using a cup of water (250mls)... does this sound about right?

I've tried looking, but found conflicting and confusing answers....

thanks.

 

[technoHarmony]

2ml of water per pill is enough

 

[Vpeace]

if u wanna know how much codeine your final yield contains try comparing the amount of water to a glass containing the same amount of water u originally dissolved the pills in.
u'll notice that it's about 60-70%
all the codeine is in there it's just hard to get all the codeine out.
that's why I always add a bit more water & repeat the process again.
I usually tip the water from the top into another glass and only use a filter on the mirky water just above the solid to get only a slight bit more water out.

but remember your aim is to get out the same amount of water as u added.

 

[johnnyonelove]

pretty fun thats its returned to the CWE days of old.....

not sure if they're still available, but i used to get codeine/paracetamol capsules with proved best for CWE. no crushing required! just split up a whole heap of capsules, and powder within is very fine so good for extraction. think their codeine content was quiet respectable as well.

as for cloudy water, well i think it usually will come out somewhat cloudy. don't know how you can fuck up a cold water extraction. if you pass cold water through, minimal paracetamol should dissolve....

N+ is no longer a favoured choice for us codeine fiends. CWE is definately the way to go, panadeine works well but the generic Sigma "Pain Tablets" are at the top of my list. The Sigma "Pain Tabsules" work pretty well too, tho the end extraction looks yellowy from the dye in the pills.

My 2c reagrding the CWE - if the water is noticeably cloudy (as in, cloudy from heaps of stuff floating in it) you've fucked up. Throw it away. Never drink murky extractions - its not worth the risk, it could just be a bit of filler or it could be 5 grams ibu or paracetemol. It should look clear, with only the slightest traces throughout the liquid visible on close inspection. That said, pills that have some colouring in it will usually leave some kind of colour in the end solution aswell (i.e a blue or a yellow colour). Particularly with the yellow, it can make it appear more "murkey" but on closer inspection, the colouring just highlights the small amount of solids in the solution.

On comparison to the old splittable N+ and panadeine forte, I believe a CWE to generally be, at best, about 50% efficient. Reasoning for this is that, on the fortes or n+ at 60mg, I felt noticeably more effected than from a CWE on 120mg worth of codeine.

For those new to the codeine scene, I think this passage from the vaults of erowid describes the codeine experience rather well.



Erowid Codeine FAQ

 

[johnnyonelove]

last time i tried...

two months ago or so, it still worked, but just not as easy. doesn't break into clean halves, so end up wasting more, but still doable.

found throwing them in the microwave for 20 secs or so made them easy to split, but this probably ruins a good percentage of the codeine, which doesn't like high temps. still worked mind you....

extraction really isn't hard though, but it does mean you have to drink that vile liquid.

 

[chugs]

stop buying the nuro+ tablets. their such a pain to grind up.

got a bottle of those chemist owns (for legit reasons) tablets and found one night whilst bored and naked that you could grind them up in seconds. very very easy.

 

[Diacetylus]

^I too have alot of trouble crushing the damned Nurofen+. It's alot of hassle and labour imo. I usually use a spoon and put my whole body-pressure on the tablet with that, in a huge bowl and sometimes a quarter of the pill will fly across the toom from all of the pressure. Try doing this with 30 pills, in my opinion I'd just prefer to pay the extra cash and buy a $100 rock of smack. It's not like Nurofen+ is really that cheap anyways and the euphoria experienced next to other opioids is pretty much, mweh!

Seriously, if you don't have the money or access, or are new to the whole opioid scene, I recommend looking into making Poppy Seed Tea. I'm going to start looking into this and apparantly all of the alkaloids from the Opium residue can make for an extremely unique, long-lasting and euphoric high. The only problem is gauging your dosage, so you'll have to be careful with that, as the content of the Opium residue can vary.

found one night whilst bored and naked that you could grind them up in seconds.

Erm... bored and naked? *shudder*

 

[static_mind]

Iv never bothered to grind up the pills, their far too hard. If you dump them in hot water (not boiling) a whole pack will dissolve in about 10min. I can have an entire CWE finished and consumed in under half an hour.

 

[johnnyonelove]

interesting.... just make sure if you do this, you put the mix in the freezer/fridge to bring its temp right down before filtration. else you'll probably end up with a whole heap of paracetamol/ibuprofen in your mix.

Iv never bothered to grind up the pills, their far too hard. If you dump them in hot water (not boiling) a whole pack will dissolve in about 10min. I can have an entire CWE finished and consumed in under half an hour.

 

[technoHarmony]

^I too have alot of trouble crushing the damned Nurofen+. It's alot of hassle and labour imo. I usually use a spoon and put my whole body-pressure on the tablet with that, in a huge bowl and sometimes a quarter of the pill will fly across the toom from all of the pressure. Try doing this with 30 pills, in my opinion I'd just prefer to pay the extra cash and buy a $100 rock of smack. It's not like Nurofen+ is really that cheap anyways and the euphoria experienced next to other opioids is pretty much, mweh!

Seriously, if you don't have the money or access, or are new to the whole opioid scene, I recommend looking into making Poppy Seed Tea. I'm going to start looking into this and apparantly all of the alkaloids from the Opium residue can make for an extremely unique, long-lasting and euphoric high. The only problem is gauging your dosage, so you'll have to be careful with that, as the content of the Opium residue can vary.



Erm... bored and naked? *shudder*

some of us arent really confident bout goin to shady areas and coppin junk lol
so the shitty codeine does alright for now
havent had any in a looong time.
think ive said this before, the panadeine (8mg codeine) are far better than nurofen plus. for some reason they always CWE better than the nurofens

really regret not gettin any painkillers when i had my teeth taken out :S
wouldnt of had to resort to codeine haha

 

[dtasrt_lk]

aaw cmon N+ isnt that hard to crush up.

I split them (like the old splittables) and grind up the halves facing upward (so the dont go flying off) with a Berocca tube on a plate. Real easy.

think ive said this before, the panadeine (8mg codeine) are far better than nurofen plus. for some reason they always CWE better than the nurofens

That has paracetamol no? dont you end up with alota paracetamol in your extraction? im sure its somewhat soluble in water