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Winsom said:
2 weeks !

Well, I tried it, and yes they are clearly two halves. The side with the N+ imprint is convex and the other side if a concave split. One thing I was wondering, if the codeine is only 12.8mg and the ibu is 200, why then is the side with codeine bigger ?
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I always found the N+ side was smaller, and tested positive for opiates where the other side doesn't. (N+ = about 1/3 of the total tablet)

Of course this was with the pills that can split easily, pretty hard to find them now. Seems some of the 12 packs are still the "right" ones.

CWE is the only way to go with the non-splitable ones. Really why can't they just sell straight / safe codeine.

Paracetamol and friends reminds of those green things on the burgers at mcdonalds. (nobody wants to eat them, and throw them away if possible)
 
Originally posted by Zandesh
Okay some I'm new and all.


But why split N+ in half?

Like, what does codeine do?
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Zandesh to answer your question:

N+ is unique in that one side of the tablet contains ibuprofen, and the other side, codeine.

Codeine is an alkaloid drug which is derived from opiates... Erowid has a whole lot of information on codeine if you are interested. :)

Codeine converts to morphine in the brain, and is mainly used for pain relief.. although some of us like to take it for recreational use. There are many side effects, including itchiness and nausea and more.. also, tolerance builds quickly and it is quite easy to become addicted (like with any other opiates).

N+ can be split and you take the N+ side which contains 12.8mg codeine per tablet. 12.8mg is too low a dose for any recreational value, so you would need to split quite a few for any warm fuzzy high. I am quite tolerant, and use on average 300mg each dose. No more than 400mg can be converted to morphine, so if you experiment - start LOW. I started on about 100mg with no tolerance.

Hope this helps.

Smokeblow :)
 
smokeblow said:
Zandesh to answer your question:

N+ is unique in that one side of the tablet contains ibuprofen, and the other side, codeine.

Codeine is an alkaloid drug which is derived from opiates... Erowid has a whole lot of information on codeine if you are interested. :)

Codeine converts to morphine in the brain, and is mainly used for pain relief.. although some of us like to take it for recreational use. There are many side effects, including itchiness and nausea and more.. also, tolerance builds quickly and it is quite easy to become addicted (like with any other opiates).

N+ can be split and you take the N+ side which contains 12.8mg codeine per tablet. 12.8mg is too low a dose for any recreational value, so you would need to split quite a few for any warm fuzzy high. I am quite tolerant, and use on average 300mg each dose. No more than 400mg can be converted to morphine, so if you experiment - start LOW. I started on about 100mg with no tolerance.

Hope this helps.

Smokeblow :)
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Well, now I shall not try that stuff!


Thank you for your reply.


I shall stick to pingers...well for now....I've had this urge to try goey though :-/
 
smokeblow said:

...Codeine converts to morphine in the brain...
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The conversion of codeine to morphine occurs in the liver and is catalysed by the cytochrome P450 enzyme CYP2D6. Approximately 6-10% of the Caucasian population have poorly functional CYP2D6 and codeine is virtually ineffective for analgesia in these patients (Rossi, 2004). Many of the adverse effects, however, are still experienced.
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(Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codeine)

[Edit: fixed broken URL]
 
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Codeine is converted to morphine in the brain. FROM VAULTS OF EROWID

the above information was obtained from vaults of erowid erowiid, which I clearly mentioned my source in my original post. So sorry if the information was incorrect?

here is exactly what it says: "Codeine is converted to morphine in the brain. This of course will result in a positive result in a drug test for the opiates. It is not known whether or not the drugs heroin, morphine or codeine can be separately determined on a drug test. In other words it isn't likely that the drug tester can determine which of the three above drugs you have taken, he just knows you've taken one or more of them."


see the link http://www.erowid.org/pharms/codeine/codeine_faq.shtml

look under effects and uses for more information.

so, which is it? Liver or the Brain? I am confused now
 
Thats strange 'smokeblow'. From everything i've read and understood of Codeine it's coverted into morphine in the liver. Maybe that is just a typo on Erowid, another reason why you shouldn't take everything written on the internet as gospal. Rather read many sources and come to an answer.
 
h-90 said:
Thats strange 'smokeblow'. From everything i've read and understood of Codeine it's coverted into morphine in the liver. Maybe that is just a typo on Erowid, another reason why you shouldn't take everything written on the internet as gospal. Rather read many sources and come to an answer.
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I was under the impression that it was converted first pass though the liver via the CYP2D6 hepatic isoenzyme, this isoenzyme does not occur in the brain.
 
^hmm.. yeah h-90 I guess it must be a type-o..... this proves how much wrong information is out there for people to read over (like me!). Scary huh :\
 
deano said:
I was under the impression that it was converted first pass though the liver via the CYP2D6 hepatic isoenzyme, this isoenzyme does not occur in the brain.
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more from erowid:

Codeine is absorbed quickly from the GI tract and it's first pass through the liver results in very little loss of the drug. This contrasts with morphine in which over 90% of the drug is metabolized in the first pass through the liver resulting in a considerable loss of potency when administered orally. This is why codeine is a common opiate in the relief of pain, the ease of oral administration.


nothing mentioned of the CYP2D6 hepatic isoenzyme... ?


don't believe in what you read, smokeblow8(
 
Codeine isnt worth the effort, no matter how small that may be IMO. I took it about 8-9 times in increasing doses to about 28 pill halves, after which i had killer liver pains for a day and a half and hung up my codeine knife for good. You have to be doing nothing to notice much effects and you'll yack ur ring up if u get hungry and eat something too soon after your 'high'. Theres plenty of other drugs out there...
 
The reason codeine is so shit is because the histamine reaction isn't worth the high. I can get a slight buzz, with plenty of irritating itching off codeine, or I can get incredibly high off heroin or oxy with comparatively negligible negative side effects.

It's useful if you have some benzos to mix it with though...100mg or so makes everything just that little bit nicer, and is good with valium or something on a comedown, but it's shit on it's own.
 
I have found that if you buy a 48pack you are almost guaranteed to get ones that split in two very easily, if you buy a 24 pack you have a 50/50 chance of getting a shitty cut.

And I have LOTS of experience with them, at the height of my addiction I was skarfing down 3-4 packs of 48's in a day. And that is not dicksizing.
 
The_Great_Refusal: Couldn't agree more. In fact I find Laudanum to be the best long lasting opiate experience. But also one of the most dangerous, the mix of alcohol and opiates of ANY strength can be disastrous. Its easy to get into a state where you have to try with all your will to BREATH. So be careful.
 
satricon - Have you tried taking an antihistamine with the codeine? Codeine also has a lot of pros: Cheap, legal, so easy to buy, known purity and dose...
 
Originally posted by Doooofus
satricon - Have you tried taking an antihistamine with the codeine? Codeine also has a lot of pros: Cheap, legal, so easy to buy, known purity and dose...
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agree with Dooofus on this one - just try using antihistamines.

I no longer get the itches from codeine? would be this be because of my tolerance? anyway, all my experiences with codeine have been quite good except a period where I was constantly getting nausea. I never get nausea now which I put down to CWE instead of just eating the N+ halves. I think the halves on their own have something which could be harmful in the binders?

I had a nice time last night on approx 300mg, which is nice level for me. Although I can still enjoy as low as 180mg and feel warm and cosy. I tend not to mix it with anything.
 
Doooofus said:
satricon - Have you tried taking an antihistamine with the codeine? Codeine also has a lot of pros: Cheap, legal, so easy to buy, known purity and dose...
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From my one experience of ~300 mg of codeine via N+ splits, the itchieness during, and the gawdawful stomach pangs afterwards, just wasn't worth it. I'd rather use the money that a 48 pack of Neurophen costs to put towards a carton of beer .. but each to their own .. hehe
 
smokeblow said:
agree with Dooofus on this one - just try using antihistamines.

I no longer get the itches from codeine? would be this be because of my tolerance? anyway, all my experiences with codeine have been quite good except a period where I was constantly getting nausea. I never get nausea now which I put down to CWE instead of just eating the N+ halves. I think the halves on their own have something which could be harmful in the binders?

I had a nice time last night on approx 300mg, which is nice level for me. Although I can still enjoy as low as 180mg and feel warm and cosy. I tend not to mix it with anything.
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Have you ever taken any other opiates such as heroin, oxycodone or methadone? Do you actually manage to get a decent high out of codeine in comparison to any of these?
 
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