Eating meth (question for experienced users only)

[muschi]

I have limited experience with meth. Maybe done it 10 times... I have access to good quality glass. I have tried using it every method so far (snort, smoke, eat, IV)
However, I have found my tolerance to be about 4 times greater then those I have used it with... Or maybe I just enjoy a more _intense_ high then they do.
I guess first I should describe the effect I am looking for. I use it **strictly recreationally**... Im not looking to help keep me up to study for an exam or anything like that. In fact, I dont even want to be functional enough to have a telephone conversation. And I dont plan to go out in public. My high time will be spent solely with my significant other in a private + safe setting.
I am looking for the fucking sheer incredible euphoric feeling like you are ejaculating out of every pore in your body for 16 hours non stop pure erotic sexual bliss eyes rolling in the back of your head --- that only meth can provide. This has happened twice so far... Basically, I want to get as HIGH as possible without ending up in the hospital or the morgue.
I have reached the desired effect ONCE with an IV a dose of about 250mg... However, only for 20-30 minutes... then I was just amped up for the next two days... but not really HIGH.
Smoked... I never reach this effect.
Snorted... I have reached the desired effect ONCE with approximately 8-10 (50mg) lines over a two hour period... However, this was also combined with 4 strong long island ice-teas...
Eating... I have tried this only once... at a 300mg dose... And I felt good, and it kind of was like a tease of where i wanted to go... but not quite there. Left me unsatisfied in the end.
Now to my question--- I would like to experiment with EATING meth more. What are the boundry limits of safe use? I know it is not proper ettiquite to recommend exact mg doses... because everyone varies in tolerance... But, I am pondering downing a 500mg dose. Curious if this is too much, or too little... As I have discovered the effect I seek tends to only be produced when the substance is taken **all at once**, I would like to avoid spacing out smaller doses over a 6-8 period. As this tends to just keep me up longer, and not produce as powerful a high.
Maybe an EXPERIENCED user could give a ratio of what typically works for them... Like... twice as much as one would IV? half as much as one would snort?
Does anyone know what I am talking about? If so, what have been your experiences? Which method of ingestion gets you to this special place?
Any other input, recommendations, etc. Please share.
Thanks for your help.
[ 31 December 2002: Message edited by: muschi ]

 

[Ayrios]

That's a big shot. People usually say about 1/2 or 1/3 the dose for a shot... You might try eating 500mg. That's a huge dose in my eyes. I'm happy with 80-100mg. It wouldn't be good for you but it wouldn't kill you one time. Overtime it'd rape your heart of course... Takes a couple grams I believe to OD.

 

[fairnymph]

Those are HUGE HUGE doses. Either you must have really shitty meth, or a huge tolerance (how often do you do it?), or both.
I almost always do my meth by eating it -- I find it to be the most euphoric way, though IV can produce more intense body effects.
I usually IV about 2/3 of my oral dose. So, I would IV 50 mg, but I would eat 75 mg (this is for pretty good but not amazing meth). The best meth I had, 50 mg was PLENTY orally.
That should give you an idea...
What does the meth that you get look like? Is it clear glass like shards? A powder? What colour powder? How much are you paying for it?

 

[muschi]

It is clear crystal shards. No powder. You can see right thru it. It's good quality stuff. Im no expert, but I'd say maybe a *7* on a 1-10 scale. Its definately not the pink orange brown stinky gooey globs of crap I've seen other people use/snort.
I am paying 80/gram. 125/teener. 250/ball..
I have an enormous tolerance to most drugs... I normally am not too concerned taking 3-4 times the amount of mdma, ghb, ketamine, etc that I have witnessed others take...
However, I get paranoid about taking too much meth and having a heart attack or something, because its honestly a drug I dont know that much about... and finding any reliable info on recreational use is damn near impossible! Even Erowid and Lyceam dont give good info on dose rates... Which is why I am trying to get some info here. The only quote Ive been able to find is 1 statement like "50mg has been known to cause a toxic reaction in some individuals, while reports have been made of over 1gram at a time without complications"... hehe... some help that is!
I am a fairly larger fellow... about 6'3 220pounds... With an pretty fast metabolism rate. I dont know that much about the effects of meth -vs- metabolism, but i hear it can make a difference? Do you know anything regarding this???
As far as how often... Very infrequently. Two or three times a year. Looking to celebrate the New Year on Cloud 9... Last use was in October..
[ 31 December 2002: Message edited by: muschi ]

 

[fairnymph]

Wow.
Well, it is still possible to have glass-like meth that looks very pure but it weak. There are a variety of reasons for why this could be so. So keep this in mind.
That considered, I generally believe that if a drug doesn't affect you at the normal dosage, then taking a significantly higher dosage (so that the stuff DOES affect you), wont' necessarily have any more negative health effects.
Did you ever experience any bad effects from the high doses of meth you've done in the past?

 

[muschi]

Alone... no. Just the mental unstability, jitters, and hallucinations of the 4th day of no sleep...
Combined with a little cocaine. Yes. Serious chest complications, rapid heart beat, extreme abdominal pains, sweats, shakes, etc. ---- A combo I do NOT plan to repeat.

 

[fairnymph]

I guess, try eating a higher dose then...like I said, I've always found a dose 1.5 times my IV dose to be ideal. That would put you in the 375-400 mg range. While I still can't imagine it would take that much, and I can't really say that that dose is healthy or particularily safe (though you certainly won't die)...that's the best *how to get high* advice I can recommend.
Are there any drugs you DON'T have a high tolerance to?
Are you on any medications? Do you have any allergies or chronic diseases?

 

[BanE]

I have a question,when u you eat meth,do you crush them up 1st or just place them whole (shards) into capsules and swallow?

 

[fairnymph]

I don't usually bother crushing it up, UNLESS I don't have a scale and I'm eyeballing (because I can only eyeball accurately when it's crushed into a powder). And I don't usually bother with a capsule, unless I'm trying to sneak some into a club to take later in the night. Usually I throw a bit in some juice/soda/water or else I wrap a little bit in some toilet paper and 'parchute it' that way.

 

[fairnymph]

16 hours non stop
Btw, NO meth dose in any form of administration is going to provide this long of a fantastic high. Even when you do meth orally, the peak lasts at most 4 hours. And when you extend the high, the effects will not be as good as they were for the first dose.