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Eating fentanyl gel patches?

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yo0123yo

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Today I got a hold of 2 100mcg/hr fentanyl gel patches by Mallinckrodt. I have a pretty high opiate tolerance. I have eaten them before in the past when I used to get them from a buddy about a year ago and havent been able to get them since then. I know that when the gel is taken orally it has a pretty low bioavailability but it hit a lot harder than if it was applied on the skin. Any dos or donts for taking it orally? About how long does it take to start feeling it pretty good when applied to the skin as opposed to the gel being taken orally? I know its dangerous but keep in mind i do have a rather high opiate tolerance
 
yo0123yo said:
Today I got a hold of 2 100mcg/hr fentanyl gel patches by Mallinckrodt. I have a pretty high opiate tolerance. I have eaten them before in the past when I used to get them from a buddy about a year ago and havent been able to get them since then. I know that when the gel is taken orally it has a pretty low bioavailability but it hit a lot harder than if it was applied on the skin. Any dos or donts for taking it orally? About how long does it take to start feeling it pretty good when applied to the skin as opposed to the gel being taken orally? I know its dangerous but keep in mind i do have a rather high opiate tolerance
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Eating a Fentanyl patch is just plain stupid. The oral bioavailability of Fentanyl is incredibly small (15% - 27% ) while the bioavailability of Fentanyl transdermally is nearly 97%. Even if it's possible to absorb the drug through your stomach, doing so would make it much less powerful, if even active at all. However I could be wrong and if I am...

Fentanyl is one of the strongest opiates in existence. The active doses start in the MICROgrams. Due to this, Fentanyl is incredibly easy to overdose with. Eating a patch would increase the likely hood of that by a factor of one thousand (if its actually even absorbed into the blood stream)
 
It can be absorbed orally but its incredibly risky to consume whole patches.
A large majority of the recorded fatalities recorded as being due to fentanyl overdose alone, have been when patches were consumed orally. Even amoungst opiate tolerant individuals the potentcy of fentanyl is grossly under-estimated.
 
Don't fuck around with fentanyl in patch form. The dose is not distributed equally over the gel and it's pretty much impossible to correctly measure your dose. And with fentanyl you have very little room for error which is why many a BLer has died from a fentanyl OD.

If you have the tolerance to wear a 100ug patch just wear the damn thing. That way you get a nice relaxing buzz for 3 days and you won't OD. I did sometimes put a heat pack on it which causes it to release fentanyl into your blood stream alot quicker which can be very dangerous as well. But that's the least harmful but my no means safe way i can see of abusing them.
 
It's not 'safe,' but cutting the patches into strips and using them bucally or sublingually, or alternately rubbing a TINY bit of the gel on dried gums would be safer than ingesting unspecified milligrams of fentanyl.
 
Morphling said:
It's not 'safe,' but cutting the patches into strips and using them bucally or sublingually, or alternately rubbing a TINY bit of the gel on dried gums would be safer than ingesting unspecified milligrams of fentanyl.
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Do you have a source for that? If not, I would have to say that giving out information like that, without any scientific proof, could be incredibly dangerous and is incredibly irresponsible to do so.
 
In my wilder and more irresponsible days I got my hands on 2 patches, I was just 18 and I do not remember its potency. I gave one to a friend who was addicted to oxy and I believe I wore the other for most the night, like 8 until sometime after midnight. At the time I had little to no opioid tolerance. I was drinking and not giving an F about safety, which was customary for the times. I am sure if there were some other drugs around I was taking them, I know I was at least smoking weed cause that was a given. Sometime after midnight I decided the patch was not doing enough so I cut it open and me and a buddy ate the gel inside. I am sure I was blasted that night, but I can't remember for sure as it was close to 10 years ago. I do know this, if the bioavailability for eating that stuff was anything reasonably high I probably wouldn't be around talking about it. Also I am probably lucky I took it off because if I passed out with it on I was definitely risking OD.
 
Morphling said:
It's not 'safe,' but cutting the patches into strips and using them bucally or sublingually, or alternately rubbing a TINY bit of the gel on dried gums would be safer than ingesting unspecified milligrams of fentanyl.
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You cannot cut the gel patches into strips as all of the gel just will leak out. You may be thinking of the mylan patches.

Either way this is not safe no matter how high your tolerance is. As someone said many BLers have died and some have been using fentanyl for a very long time with a lot of experience.

I agree with the poster above me. This is terribly dangerous advice with no info to back it up. If you are not even familiar enough with these patches to understand the difference in the gel ones and the other ones then you should not give such advice. It has absolutely no HR value and you would feel horrible if someone ODed due to your words.
 
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agree 100% with this.
Fentanyl is one of those drugs that its just a really bad idea to try and abuse.
In order to abuse a drug you have to take a recreational dose. In the case of fent the line between recreation and death is so slim its ridiculous.
My uncle and cousin in-law are into smoking fent patches and while i have tried to educate them as to the risks of this, i fear that i will be attending 1 or boths funeral/s in the near future.
 
I am prescribed 15 50mcg patches a month - changing every 48hrs. The best patches are the ones that are the matrix like a film no gel. also for brands if you can get brand name or the generic Sandoz GET THEM. instead of having 5mg of fentanyl in the 50's they have 8.4mg almost doubling the strength in the same mcg per hr. the brand name is also having 8.4mg in them as well no other generic beside Sandoz does this, just an fyi. if you start on the fent. train no other drug will get you as high as fentanyl. doesn't matter if you take so much u passout u will not get that euphoric feeling anymore from anything beside fent. the bioavability is 97% transdermal, 50% buccal (cheeking it) and 30-35% eating it. I've gotten the gel brand once in the 50's and it was complete crap compared to the matrix, even dried and smoked complete waste of a script. you can still cheek the gel but it's worthless. If you don't get a script every month, you don't really have a choice. but i'd advise the person u get em from to see if they can get that type of patch next time they fill there script. then try and see how much of a difference you feel. if you wear it you can wear it for up to 3-4 days and afterwards you can eat the rest of wuts left, thus getting the whole bioavability and not wasting it. if you eat it and you will be blown outta your mind but you will go through them very quickly - but with the gel its very had to judge how much your getting so be very careful on how much you suck out. also putting it in your mouth it will last roughly 3hrs for the very high then around the 6hr mark it will start to wear off. but then your wasting 50% of the patch and that's if you don't swallow any at all which its kinda hard not too.

so it just depends on what ur trying to do if you wanna get blasted eat it, if you wanna make it till ur next score and you don't know when that will be wear it. you will still feel fine/good just not anywhere like eating it.
 
i have a little too much experience with those things. dont eat it its a waste and you cant judge how much you doing. your best and safest bet would be to get drops the size of your fingernail and put it inbetween your lips and your gum. it kicks in within 20 minutes, and if you dont feel it then do it again until your desired effect is reached. i dont think its worth the trouble. they are more addicting then you could ever know. hell i smoked around 125 patches last year in 2 weeks and the withdrawals were unforgiving, but if your gonna do it i cant stop you.
 
you have THE strongest comerically avail rx opi....2 of them. and by that i mean the 100mcg patch. unless you have a massive opi tolerance and i mean massive, sell them to someone who you know can safely make use of them. when it comes to these patches its recipe for disaster. even when i had a massive tolerance, i wore a 100 patch once and i was wrecked, far too much. and when i took it off it didnt let up for like 12 hours. i mean i woke up high, i cant imagine having pain so bad to be rx'd them by a LEGIT dr. its a matrix style patch so you cant smoke them. honestly, there isnt much you can do with the matrix ones besides wear them or i guess maybe shoot them somehow which will kill you. youre talking about 3 days worth of medication. plus, fent is like ice. no warmth like smack or morphine, just deadness. i mean if i was in wd yeah i would, but otherwise no way. be super fucking careful.
 
I used to be on fent patches for pain but my insurance does not cover them and i can't afford them these days so i am on morphine SR's instead. Fentanyl was a godsend for me in treating my trigeminal neuralgia and i never had a ache or pain while i was on it. But i did notice that there was a wide varience in how good they worked and one time when i got ratiopharm brand 50ug patches instead of the ranbaxy ones i went into full blown opiate withdrawal. However i never got any euphoria from fent at all no matter what way i took it. It's the only opioid i never bothered abusing except when i first experimented with them. I got more euphoria from codeine ffs
 
I have never understood why anyone, especially someone that is not opiate naïve would even mess with Fentanyl when it usually doesn't give any euphoric effects, especially for anyone that has used other opiates like heroin. I have no idea why they add it to heroin because IMO the heroin itself would be better and the risk of having someone OD is much higher. If you are not getting any effects from its normal use then any other ROA will probably not do any more except greatly increase your chances of OD because you will keep taking more because you do not think it is affecting you.

TAKE EVERYONE'S ADVICE AND DON'T MESS WITH IT!
 
I have smoked and gummed the gel and I have chomped the matrix before. I had a habit of roughly a gram of average tar a day.

Ingesting fentanyl these ways are extremely dangerous these ways because you never know exactly how much you are dosing. Also when smoking it I would take tiny match size hits and feel kinda high and then all of a sudden I would just nod off super hard, waking up not even knowing where the fuck I was. Basically the nod comes on very strongly without much warning. And eating it is crazy too, it's just such a heavy opiate my breathing was severely suppressed under its influence, like I had to remind myself to breath.

That being said to be honest, the nod is fucking wicked if you can hit the sweet spot. The thing is the difference between the sweet spot and an od is way to close for comfort. And ya fent is not overly euphoric compared to h but it makes up for it in its gnarly sedation and crushing body high.
 
I have nodded out on fentanyl by mixing it with temazepam when i had a heat pack on the patch. I got absolutely no euphoria or warning that i was going to nod out. I was just watching the TV one minute the next thing i know i wake up and it's 3 hours later.
 
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I done the whole nodding out with no warning (with other opiates not fent) and waking up hours later confused and really scared at how close I came to a one way ticket.
I also suffer with trigeminal neuralgia, it fucking sucks.lol
Luckily 90% of my neuralgia is controlled with DHC and pregabalin (oramorph deals with anything else but morphine makes me feel sick as hell so i only use it if desperate), I cant imagine neuralgia pain bad enough to have fent prescribed (nor would I want to!).
 
lman_15 said:
smoke that shit
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No, infact DONT smoke that shit.
What is the point of coming onto a HR site and throwout inane comments like that?
You may think its funny to give advice like that but if ive a naive drug user took it seriously they could easily kill themselves (especially with super potent opioids).
 
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