Sorry, I've not even finished reading the thread, but HOW THE FUCKING HELL does that help with anxiety?! Oh, I forgot, I need have faith, don't I? I think most religious people have a below IQ, if I'm honest, except a small percentage. They're just misguided. Which one are you? I'm becoming more anti-theist by the day, and it's because of the total shit that I read. Do you use drugs, Jess? Or, did you, but then you picked up a book? I've never seen you mention a recent drug venture, which, again, makes me wonder why exactly you come on here.
acid...whatever the fuck....liam:
Chill out Treacle. Yes I do use drugs lots of them. Mostly prescription. I also like a puff. I also come here to chat to people I genuinely like and lol some of the ones i'm not keen on.. Can I stay?
Would you be so rude if I'd been talking about hypnosis. Words have an effect on emotion. You don't even need to use faith words to calm your fear or anxiety with words. I find reading or reciting promises n my head, from the bible a zillion times more effective in calming my mood and settling my fears.
Listen, so far there are no bible thumping stereotypical Christian types in here. Pink is chilled out with her faith. So am I. If people talk to me about God which they do on a regular basis I will give my point of view. I love nothing more than talking about Theology and Philosophy and I am grateful for this thread. Shambles is too and also knows a great deal about the subject.
I don't know if you were out of the game, pissed or just pissed off when you wrote that post but I don't feel I deserved the abuse. Please don't talk to me so aggressively again.
I missed the best bit. Jess: Why is Liam allowed to take drugs, but you find it to be a sin? Liam: Why are you allowed to take drugs, when Jess isn't? Why don't you both share the same opinion on something so simple? 'Am I allowed to do drugs? Yes or no...'. Surely, there's a proper answer to this. It does say that God made hemp, etc. and I believe it mentions people using hemp (so, getting stoned then). This is a question I've asked my mate, but he said there's not really any rules regarding getting mashed (obviously not on newer drugs, Liam, you fucking smart-arse). It's obviously a case of 'I believe in God, but I love drugs'. There's nothing wrong with that, by the way. I'd rather speak to a drug-using Christian, any day, as they make far more sense. This thread has made me mad.God is the awesome creator of the universe
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I'm not sure which post you were referring to here. If you mean when I said I felt convicted that means I feel a kind of pressure from God that that isn't what He wants for me right now. It feels like sadness but not my own.
Its a really difficult question to answer. Can we take drugs or not. God gave us herbs and plants for our enjoyment perhaps it could be argued. However, theres not many people that can handle daily opium. They took it for their enjoyment but ended up in the hell of slavery. Some people need to work on their self control.. in fact we all do but some are gannets and end up hurting themselves and their families.
Theres no yes or no answer to your question ultimately. This is the reason why. At some stage ( it differs for everyone) we receive the Holy Spirit, we are washed in it its an amazing experience.. we become a new creation. The God that we have hungered for and longed for comes to live within us as we are within Him. There is reconciliation. His command to me is to follow Him. It can be hard to keep up.. I love this verse so much:
The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."
I know what He wants of me. I know He doesn't want me taking crates full of pills every day. In my body ( my flesh) I'm weak.. I carrrrrrrrrrrnt.. But I can ask for Gods grace and Spirit to help me.. actually sometimes its not even help he just untangles me from whatever I'm tangled up in.
Sometimes I feel like God has led me to places that completely make me question who I am and what I'm about.. hes doing some kind of iconoclastic work on my ego with a sledge hammer. After Jesus died Peter had a vision of a sheet of some sort full of un kosher foods. Prawns, pork, bread with yeast and God said 'eat'.
Heres Peters version:
4 Starting from the beginning, Peter told them the whole story: 5 “I was in the city of Joppa praying, and in a trance I saw a vision. I saw something like a large sheet being let down from heaven by its four corners, and it came down to where I was. 6 I looked into it and saw four-footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, reptiles and birds. 7 Then I heard a voice telling me, ‘Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.’
8 “I replied, ‘Surely not, Lord! Nothing impure or unclean has ever entered my mouth.’
9 “The voice spoke from heaven a second time, ‘Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.’ 10 This happened three times, and then it was all pulled up to heaven again.
I think this means all things are clean. Paul said ' All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.' corinthians 10.23
Paul made it very clear that with Jesus death the Law had died. It had been nailed to the cross with Jesus. But we still need to do Gods will. The Holy Spirit was poured out at Pentacost- total ecstasy. Union with God through His spirit. We still have to keep topping up though if we're running on empty we lose sight of Him and what He wants. So anyway, its perfectly likely that if someone offers me some opium that Gods cool with that 'dont call anything that God has created impure'

Thing is I dont think its going to do me any favours with my opiate issues. So I might pass.