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EADD Socioeconomic status thread

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Following on from the benefits thread, I thought it'd be interesting to potentially map political views to socioeconomic groups you all consider yourself to be part of.

Mods, I couldn't find a poll for this, so feel free to make one if that is better.

Without further ado, are you?

Benefit Class (£0k per annum)
Working Class (~£40k per annum)
Lower-Middle Class (~£60k per annum)
Middle Class (~£80k per annum)
Upper-Middle Class (~£100k per year)
Upper Class/Comfortable (+£100k per annum)

It'd also be interesting to know how what you earn was determined by your childhood? So, did you grow up in a:

Shared accomodation (£?k)
Flat/Small house (£300k)
Modest house (£500k)
Large house (£1m+)

I guess it'd also be interesting to know gender too?

Gwan then BL, show your true colours.
 
Maybe it'd be interesting to list your drug of choice too. Though obviously everybody knows that the hoi-polloi are generally whacked out on cheap speed, white cider and counterfeit downers.
 
darkinthepark said:
I eat with my fork in my right hand .... so you need to include a classless option...
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I do too, i never understood or got the hang of right handed people using their left hand for holding a fork. After all, right handed people use their right hand for a spoon, which is essentially the same thing. I currently have an annual income of less than £600. I grew up in a large house that had a ten foot snooker table in the converted double garage. The place wasn't worth anywhere near £1,000,000 though. Maybe if it was in London it might have been. My parents were social climbers, im currently a fucking underclass drop out.
 
Did you know (not you BHM) that "annum" is Latin and closely related to the word "annales" which translates to "anuses".
 
i'm not sure many people would feel comfortable answering this (or honestly at least) - but i don't mind saying i'm near the bottom of that massive chasm you left between working class and benefit class (more than half the population fit in that slot - median and average wage are in the twenties i think). And the benefit class would include people with incomes way higher than 0.

(and right-forked/left-wing/shit-poor/council-house ancestry btw)
 
Chatative said:
Those figures don't match to the categories IMO.
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This.

Modest house 500k? I live in a well built good sized semi detached 3 bed house. Its worth 140kish. I'd say that is modest/average.

Also 40k as the average working class wage? Seems a bit high.
 
Income has very little to do with class - and those arbitrary figures make no sense anyway. Anyway according to that I'm slightly above my station working class, so I spend my days pottering around a wimpy home, listening to classic FM, eating Iceland prawn cocktails and vol-au-vents8).
 
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Bit of a simplistic manner of looking at things. For a start you class isn't determined by your annual income by any means. There are plenty of working class people who earn shitloads and plenty of upper middle class people who are flat broke in terms of income.

What are you talking about in the first category as well? Wage? Total income? What about capital gains?

Also the size of your house only bears a rough correlation to value. You can pay £20milllion for a two bedroom apartment or £100, 000 for a five bedroom house.
 
^It is simplistic as stated above, and even more complex definitions of class will never match many actual people exactly, though there is still value in analysis it if you remember this limitation (like in statistics).

I do think though that while class might not be directly related to income, it probably is to some combination of income/wealth and social connections (the nature of which come from the income/wealth ultimately, even if from a previous generation's); It sort of has to be by definition (socio-economic). I think it's simpler to say class is about power (or relationship to the means of production in old fashioned marxist terms) - to me there's really only one important class division: the ruling/owning class and everyone else
(edit: just noticed i'm responding to stuff you didn't say owen - just an excuse for my usual commie guff really ;))
 
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Vurtual said:
^It is simplistic as stated above, and even more complex definitions of class will never match many actual people exactly, though there is still value in analysis it if you remember this limitation (like in statistics).

I do think though that while class might not be directly related to income, it probably is to some combination of income/wealth and social connections (the nature of which come from the income/wealth ultimately, even if from a previous generation's); It sort of has to be by definition (socio-economic). I think it's simpler to say class is about power (or relationship to the means of production in old fashioned marxist terms) - to me there's really only one important class division: the ruling/owning class and everyone else (edit: just noticed i'm responding to stuff you didn't say owen - just an excuse for my usual commie guff really ;))
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So you just want to know how much people earn then yeah?

How about the other things I mentioned? Is the figure salary? Including other income? Including capital gains?
 
omen_owen mk2 said:
So you just want to know how much people earn then yeah?

How about the other things I mentioned? Is the figure salary? Including other income? Including capital gains?
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No, i noticed after i posted i was agreeing with what you were saying i think (see my edit) - that is it's got to be some mix of various types of wealth taken into account (eg as you said factoring in the difference with having to live somewhere and having 20 houses etc.). It's bloody complex however you look at it, more than simple income can show (though i was using 'wealth' as a catch-all for capital gains etc). Anyway, i need to read posts i'm responding to more carefully before posting :)
 
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