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EADD Pirate (mephedrone, 4-MMC) Megathread XII v. Yeeeeaaaarrrrghhh Me Hearties!

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Really upset about sr, I was expecting a big order for a friend and it's looks like that's gone kaput now :( So I'm gonna bosh through the last .5g of meph I have here and try and cheer up a bit. One for the road?
 
Hmmm I suspect normal trading will resume in some form fairly quickly, not sure about those Bitcoins though.

I'll join you but with a little of this excellent amphetamine, since I have no industrial drain cleaner in stock;)
 
Aye, it's a combo of being annoyed about being out the money and upset because they were really looking forward to it. Ah well, just have to do for the moment. Do have some good amp kicking about atm myself, but my friend's not much interested in anything other than mdma and "industrial drain cleaner" :P

I do love a bit of good speed myself, but I think the kick in the arse from meph is more necessary at the minute. Enjoying some tunes now at least, worrying less :)
 
Pre ban I was quite into meph but it started making me throw up on the comedown so I've only done it a handful of times since the ban.

I still remember getting that first G and thinking it would be shite being legal and all that, I hoofed a big line and had barely gotten over the shock of the burn before it hit me like a freight train.

Me and the good lady were due to go out that weekend so I played it down but got some more in, just before we left the house I suggested she try a line, no point warning her about the burn it might have put her off ! 5 mins later she was sat in the passenger seat eyes rolling and incapable of speech:D

I find it more fiendish than speed but relatively forgiving on the comedown (apart from the throwing up) it all got a bit out of hand though ordering in 15g and half a g of MDPV to keep me going in the week, was kinda relieved when it got banned.
 
Yeah, I can understand that. I'm getting a bit the same with drink, I end up puking the morning after no matter how much or how little I've drank, so I've been taking a break lately. It's entirely possible it's just been the combination of cider + getting sick ripping the stomach out of me though, but either way laying off will help. I really do enjoy drinking though, which seems to put me at odds with a lot of other people I know who takes drugs, hah, I really enjoy the sensation of being drunk.

The first time I came across meph was at a house party about 2 years ago. We'd been up all night on mdma and were hitting the early hours and were all out, so this older guy with all the connects asked if we'd be interested in some meph. We didn't really know what it was, so we jumped at the opportunity, waited about an hour for his dealer to show up with it. Pretty sure it was preban because it was in packaging I recognised from seeing in headshops ages before. Fucking €30 a bag though, which turned out to only be .5g :/ We didn't end up taking it at the time though, the dealer and one of his other friend stuck around and I thought it was getting pretty sketchy and dragged my mate off home to go to bed. (Same mate as before, we're partners in hi-jinks :P)

We busted it out a couple of weeks later though, just at home drinking and not expecting much, but fuck, it synergised so well with the alcohol. I knew about the burn, but didn't mention it in case my friend decided not to do it :P Once it kicked in though it was definitely worth the pain! I felt like, sober, but drunk at the same time? I could appreciate the drunk feeling, but I also felt completely in control, (Although probably didn't look like it, lol.) we were running around the house like kids, dancing and laughing and chatting shite.

I haven't experienced and post-ban batch combining as well, but it's still fantastic for being out on, without being fucked out of it like on mdma. It is totally fiendish, but that's the trade-off for the short action I suppose, which is also half of why I like it. I'm not too bad at stopping (eventually. Say you'll stop at 2 and be in bed for 4 and you're usually ready about 5 :P) but I've had to pull my mate back a fair few times, which makes me feel a bit worried/guilty. Probably for the best we didn't know about it when it was still legal!

I'm usually pretty conservative with the lines I do, but I'm totally tempted to hoof a big line now, I've never actually breached the 'incapable of speech' barrier yet :P

(stimmed-up walls of text, sorry. >.>)
 
My raving days were over by around 2000, I'd been at it since 1991.

MDMA outside of a club / rave setting was never of much interest to me, I'd agree meph is much more suitable for sitting in and getting messy.

Mrs A is very sensitive to any stims so has always relied on me taking stuff first and judging the dosage for her, she's never been a one for wanting to get totally smashed on MDMA but prefers nicely off it. Although there were times when miscalculations led to her being totally off her box, but she's never been a one to freak out and the crowd we used to party with would always use such opportunities to take the piss, the best approach IMO.

I'm reliably informed that there is some meph around that comes in big rocks not the small shards, supposed to be very good indeed.

I'd hoof the big line if I were you, it's way to late to worry about it now, I have to go to work today as well but have tomorrow off so alls good
 
Ah, I'm only a babby so :P 21 going 22. I remember being aware of the rave scene growing up though and really wanting to be a part of it. It had a buzz about it I loved the idea of, that doesn't seem to be about anymore. I was a strange precocious child.

MDMA usually knocks me on my arse, I get really lethargic and just want to lie down and snuggle all the things. I do love it though. Tried taking it when I was out once and ended up having to go home. Waste of a good pill :( If I'm at a gig/dj though I'm usually perfectly happy to be sober, I'm there for the show. Being at a good gig is a high all of its own.

I empathise with your Mrs A completely :) I'm pretty hyper-aware when I'm taking drugs around other people (I'm epileptic, so I'm always a bit paranoid in case anything happens. I'd hate to put any of my friends through that, but I have a pretty good handle on my limits. Yeahhh, I know I shouldn't be taking anything at all, but I got my diagnosis after I'd already been exposed to how awesome drugs are, so it's a bit hard to go back.) so I'm not often the one who's taken too much, but we've a good group and we all seem to enjoy looking after each other when we're high, lol. Definitely good-natured pisstaking after though. I'm usually the one who tests a new batch in that case, cause I prefer to take a little at first to get my bearings.

I actually had a batch of the rocky stuff supposed to be on the way! Shit buzz. Don't know anyone irl who deals, or who I'd trust around where I'm living now, so it was pretty much the road or nowt. Don't have anywhere to be tomorrow, except to deal with sober people, so fuck it! Lining it up now :D

ETA: Err, any particular amount one might recommend for hoofing?
 
I always found the secret with MDMA was to get dancing, I loved to dance,,,so much. If I didn't get going I could end up floored, I little speed prior to the MDMA always helped.

MDA can be even more like that and much more trippy (my fav drug) but if you sat down for too long you'd just be a puddle in the corner, I loved the energy I would get from dancing to really hard tunes on MDMA, I'd often end up blacking out due to over exertion until I learnt to hold it down a bit.

You need a crowd who will look pout for you but not be afraid to take the piss, talk nonsense and try and do your head in, many a potential wonk out can be prevented with a few kind words a bit of a sit down and some surreal humour !

Are you weighing out lines ? I'd go for 200mgs but I'm a greedy drug pig, this speed is very pure 30mgs or so seems more than enough, I'll have to make up a couple of gel caps to see me through the day, should be entertaining, I find as long ass you set the scene that your a bit odd from the outset you can get away with most things within reason, failing that I'll lock myself in the toilets and take some Xanax :D
 
I don't think I've ever taken speed on MDMA - I usually try not to mix my drugs, just in case - but I'll definitely try a little bit out next time. I'd love to try MDA as well, I've had some seriously trippy MDMA before which freaked my friends out, but I really enjoyed. Sure, who cares if the person you're chatting the ear off isn't actually there as long as the craic is good?

Was the blacking-out from blood-pressure stuff d'you think, or just over-heating or whatever? I've been pretty lightheaded at times on different stims but none of my friends seem to suffer from it.

Definitely! I think you really get the measure of some of your friends when you start doing drugs with them. Weeds out a lot of the shit heads sharpish. Although meph can make the soundest person fairly overbearing I've found at times :(

Yeah, but not too exact. I'm more inclined to put a limit on how much I'll take all night, rather than how much at once, in hopes of harm reduction. Just want to make sure I'm not gonna expire :P I'll try about 100mg, I think. Looks like a bit more than twice what I usually take and I'm pretty slight. Not too much left after that, but enough for a maintenance line or two.

How do you find speed? Why would you prefer it over something else, etc. Hah, yeah, set the scene that you couldn't sleep the night before for whatever reason and people give you a pass for being exhausted and short tempered or whatever. I'll probably crash out about 10-11 though and sleep the day. I feel sorry that you have to go to work :(
 
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Nah work will be fine, I few bumps in the day and I'll be on top form, I'm used to doing it, what gets most people is the paranoia other know your on something....they don't even get close to twigging unless they use themselves. I can largely sit in from of a screen all day if I want fiddling with data and reports and looking studious.

Speed and MDMA mix fine but I'd dose low on the speed, a little prior and a little later if you want to keep going and not redose on MDMA.

Around 1992 a massive batch of pills came into the UK that had been made in a Latvian chemical factory that was desperate for western cash, they were known as Snowballs and tested at well over 200mgs of pure MDA. I found MDA a little less stimulating but a lot more trippy, like high dose MDMA and then some.

Hallucinations on MDA are like nothing else I have experienced, so real and quite often shared, me and my partner watched ducks swimming around on a lake that was a warehoused floor for ages, she would always see a bloke pushing a wheelbarrow...this would be the marker a a good night.

Initially people just didn't know how strong they were, 10,000 people in a warehouse at 3am all totally off it on MDA was an mazing experience and changed my life in once night.

Sounds like your being sensible with those stims, at my worste I was getting through 10g of meph in one session, totally stupid given it was a relatively new substance. It got me of coke though.
 
Ohhh yeah, that was a good idea. Definitely fucked now, definite eye wiggles, lil bit of gurning. Panned out though, don't really want to get up and dance or anything, just like when I'm on MDMA. Wonder why that is. Hah, definitely couldn't hold a conversation, but I can type! With a lot of concentration. Bonding with my laptop.

Any music recommendations?

I'm 100% fine in public on speed, I'm actually a lot more confident/relaxed. I think I might have some anxiety issues, but I really hate going to the doctor, so I haven't done anything about it yet.

Sounds good. I think I'm pretty much over redosing on MDMA at this point. I find if I hit the sweet spot the first time I have the best time, instead of under- or over-shooting and redosing later. I'd love to experience something like that. I think my closest is just being at a really good gig with an amazing crowd, they're this amazing euphoria that's completely unique to that situation.

Damn, I'm really going to have to get my hands on some of that! I know one night me and a few friends sat up doing ridiculous amounts of MDMA (One lad just wouldn't come up, so every time we gave him a booster it was like, one for you, one for me...) and I think we were in a shared headspace although I don't know if we were seeing the same stuff. D'you ever get that thing where you hear voices that aren't there when you're fucked? The last day my friends were over they overindulged a little, and kept creeping into each other's rooms because they couldn't sleep and thought the other person had gotten up and was in talking to me, lol.

Drink is my main downfall. I once made a joke about the fact that I'd make a great alcoholic and only one friend got that I wasn't really trying to be funny. I love being drunk. If it weren't for the atrocious hangovers (I think it's to do with my meds as well.) I'd probably be drunk all the time. Not like, shitfaced, I don't like being messy drunk any more than I like being completely off my face, usually, but maybe like, 3 pint drunk.

I know when I'm entering a danger zone in terms of having a seizure, so it's a pretty good incentive to stop sometimes. I usually keep a diaz or two on hand just in case. With sr gone though, would etiz work as a substitute?
 
Don't drink on MDMA it just takes the shine off, my best advice is to get up and dance even when you don't really feel the urge, I always did this making sure I was coming up whilst dancing the feeling of it coming one and the music connecting so directly through you creates a synergy that MDMA alone does not provide. I totally lost any inhibition about my dancing or myself, I know I looked like a total loon but that didn't matter in fcat it was positively encouraged, express yourself however you like.

Bear in mind people have been dancing all night to repetitive beats since the dawn of our race, the experience is more than just drugs.

Endless weirdity on MDMA and MDA, just so real 'hyperreal' nothing like the lsd experience for me and dancing enhanced the whole thing, I loved the mornings as it got light only the people that were really up for it were left and the techno would kick in, I saw some truly amazing stuff that seemed so real and felt a collective copiousness connected through the music.

I know that all sounds like drug addled ramblings, maybe it is but it doesn't detract from how much I derived from those years, a real sense of community a real sense of freedom.

One of the very few pieces of film with me in it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-famYdzQoE

Etis is shorter acting than Diaz but many prefer it although I've heard quality issues of late.
 
I'd never drank before taking MDMA until the most recent night and yeah, things got weird, so I'm not gonna do that again. Ended up chasing a high all night, got into the meph after that and speed, though I had very little of the meph and none of the speed. My bed time by then :P Haha, yeah! I'm more of a rocker irl, so I'm used to repetitive dance moves :P Jumping up and down, stuck shoulder to shoulder adhered to the skin of the sweaty guy beside you who took his t-shirt off. Wouldn't change it for the world. I don't give a fuck what I look like when I'm at a concert, but weirdly in a club or at a dj I feel really selfconscious. You're totally right though, next time I'm just gonna get up there and throw whatever shapes I feel like.

I'm small enough I probably won't be noticed anyway, lol.

I'm usually pretty leery of taking psychs out of my comfort zone, eg. at home or a trusted friend's house, but I think it would work with MDMA/MDA. Plus, I think I'm familiar enough with the ride by now not to get overwhelmed by it. Hah, not that I even noticed the first time it happened. I was pretty much like, "Eh, whatever. It looks cool. It'll go away eventually.", but I think I was the only one who knew about it getting trippy at higher doses. I didn't even understand why people liked LSD at all until recently. All of my trips were fine at best, and pretty harrowing at worst, but we candyflipped for the BFFs birthday and it was amazing. I finally 'got it', I think, but I wouldn't be rushing to do it again.

Except right now because I'm fucked and suddenly really want to do a psych.

I think it sounds awesome :)

Ooooh! Which one are you? :P Good stuff.

I might try a small order so, just to test the waters. If only I had those bitcoins ;_;
 
eithne drink is also my downfall in a way. i love it though. yeah Allein dancing on drugs is something else, magical, get lost in the beats. becomes spiritual or something. i dont bother with MDMA much anymore, too mongy and trippy for me. and brain zappy if i abuse it. although had so many perfect beautiful times on it
 
I mostly end up lying down somewhere waving my appendages to the music, and bopping my head. Thankfully we usually do drugs at home. If you're doing meph in a club though it is impossible to stay still. So much dancing!

I do adore MDMA, but horses for courses, y'know? It's really not a going out drug for me. I appreciate having the choice. Drop a bomb of meph in a pint at the beginning of the night, good night sure to follow. I like speed as well, but it depends what mood I'm in. I find speed very 'clean', I don't feel like it's affecting my personality much other than making me more me, if that makes sense? More energy, more confidence. Whereas meph gives that great euphoria and energy. Sometimes you just want to get out of yourself.
 
A mate came into a friends house last night gave out 2g of "£30 a g coke" free bang did next to nothing.. Got given 2 tiny lines of that rocky meph that people on here are talking about and I was completely pranged off it proper buzzing not been feeling like that in a while!
 
Banging stuff aint it. i was gonna order some more. looks like that idea went shit out the window. still got a gram left though stinking up a dvd case
 
Whereas meph gives that great euphoria and energy. Sometimes you just want to get out of yourself.
Agree with the energetic rushy euphoria. It also gives me an incredible sense of self, and an amazing ego lift. Very naughty substance, takes you somewhere else ;) <3
Can't believe you started after the ban. And by the way, nice speedy chat with Allein, lol %)

Got given 2 tiny lines of that rocky meph that people on here are talking about and I was completely pranged off it proper buzzing not been feeling like that in a while!
Good to hear that you have found some nice stuff, and you did try the pre-ban, so you have an excellent standard to refer to
 
Try the rocky meph to put in water and drink it, it worked for me much better than snorting. Btw the rocky meph I think its a bit of mixture of cathinones, because it has a way too long stimulating effect after the primary effects worn off, but its still nice.
 
Can't believe you started after the ban. And by the way, nice speedy chat with Allein, lol %)

LOL that stuff took me by surprise I did about a 1/4 of the size lines I normally do and half the actually number, very nice stuff and a nice chat with a fellow early morning stimmer, I went into work at 8am, thanks fuck I had a few Xanax on hand !
 
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