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EADD Pirate (mephedrone, 4-MMC) Megathread XII v. Yeeeeaaaarrrrghhh Me Hearties!

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Ecstasy data will test it but it costs 140$ per sample - will not tell you the purity of the product but will tell you anything else in the sample.
 
The whole pre-ban containing 10% 3-mmc I think originated from this post on another forum. Whether it's true or not I have no idea so don't jump on my back if it's a load of bollocks.


China banned production of the meph pre cursor
4-methylpropiophenone which contains up to 10% 3-methylpropiophenone (technical grade reagent). Separation of 3-methylmethcathinone from 4-methylmethcathinone is difficult. On large scale, multiple recrystallizations are required which I doubt most RC manufacturers would do because of lost material and thus lost profit - hence the impurity. Thats why chinese meph was different as it contained 3-mmc as a by product which happened to give you a better buzz,although bad for your health.They were losing too much product in washing it out.China was main world producer of 4-methylpropiophenone so when it dried up i presume thats when india started producing meph but were unable to get the banned pre cursors so used probably one of these methods,both produce mephedrone but none of them contain 3-mmc in the final product.Cleaner yes but the buzz is not as intense as the 3-mmc was helpin the chink gears potency.
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It can also be produced by oxidising the ephedrine analogue (4-methylephedrine) using potassium permanganate dissolved in sulfuric acid. Because 4-methylephedrine can be obtained in a specific enantiomeric form it is possible to produce mephedrone consisting of only one enantiomer. There is a danger associated with this method as it may cause manganese poisoning if the product is not correctly purified.[1]:17
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A stereospecific form of (S)-mephedrone could be prepared via Friedel–Crafts acylation. The first step in the synthesis would react toluene and (S)-N-trifluoroacetylalanoyl chloride in the presence of aluminium chloride, then deprotect the intermediate with hydrochloric acid-propyl alcohol . This would produce (S)-4-methylcathinone, which could then be methylated to produce mephedrone
There are more synth recipies about but none contain 3-mmc in the final product unless 4-methylpropiophenone was used as the pre cursor.
 
Never really realised how enjoyable low doses spaced out can be, especially with a heck of drink. About 100mg up the snout and a load of pints, feeling good, very chatty.
 
ddhats said:
The whole pre-ban containing 10% 3-mmc I think originated from this post on another forum. Whether it's true or not I have no idea so don't jump on my back if it's a load of bollocks.


China banned production of the meph pre cursor
4-methylpropiophenone which contains up to 10% 3-methylpropiophenone (technical grade reagent). Separation of 3-methylmethcathinone from 4-methylmethcathinone is difficult. On large scale, multiple recrystallizations are required which I doubt most RC manufacturers would do because of lost material and thus lost profit - hence the impurity. Thats why chinese meph was different as it contained 3-mmc as a by product which happened to give you a better buzz,although bad for your health.They were losing too much product in washing it out.China was main world producer of 4-methylpropiophenone so when it dried up i presume thats when india started producing meph but were unable to get the banned pre cursors so used probably one of these methods,both produce mephedrone but none of them contain 3-mmc in the final product.Cleaner yes but the buzz is not as intense as the 3-mmc was helpin the chink gears potency.
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India synth option
It can also be produced by oxidising the ephedrine analogue (4-methylephedrine) using potassium permanganate dissolved in sulfuric acid. Because 4-methylephedrine can be obtained in a specific enantiomeric form it is possible to produce mephedrone consisting of only one enantiomer. There is a danger associated with this method as it may cause manganese poisoning if the product is not correctly purified.[1]:17
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india synth option
A stereospecific form of (S)-mephedrone could be prepared via Friedel–Crafts acylation. The first step in the synthesis would react toluene and (S)-N-trifluoroacetylalanoyl chloride in the presence of aluminium chloride, then deprotect the intermediate with hydrochloric acid-propyl alcohol . This would produce (S)-4-methylcathinone, which could then be methylated to produce mephedrone
There are more synth recipies about but none contain 3-mmc in the final product unless 4-methylpropiophenone was used as the pre cursor.
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Where's F&B when you need him?
 
Hangover said:
@Safrolette; Cmon... you must be able to work that one out
auld washer wimmin = old washer women
I can work it out at 4am! :p
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To my defence I can only say that a) I was very stoned b) English is not my first language...
 
Right. Gave the stuff from the road another shot today after a load of pints after a hurling match. Needed 3 big keys of it to get where I wanted but did have eye wiggles, horniness, chattiness and generally what I expect from meph. I'd say it's meph but it has to be cut if it takes that much to get where I want.
 
Vertigo100 said:
Right. Gave the stuff from the road another shot today after a load of pints after a hurling match. Needed 3 big keys of it to get where I wanted but did have eye wiggles, horniness, chattiness and generally what I expect from meph. I'd say it's meph but it has to be cut if it takes that much to get where I want.
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Is that the same stuff as I had Vertigo? I'm wondering if what any of you have got is even the same stuff or what's going on. I'm due to pick up 10g of it in the next couple days so guess I'll know then. Should have took pics of the different batches last night the shiney shard one was really rushy. All I noticed with the one you have that was lacking was a bit of the stimulation and comedown but the actual hit off it was euphoric, empathetic, just what you expect of mephedrone.
 
Dr_Robotnik said:
Is that the same stuff as I had Vertigo? I'm wondering if what any of you have got is even the same stuff or what's going on. I'm due to pick up 10g of it in the next couple days so guess I'll know then. Should have took pics of the different batches last night the shiney shard one was really rushy. All I noticed with the one you have that was lacking was a bit of the stimulation and comedown but the actual hit off it was euphoric, empathetic, just what you expect of mephedrone.
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Yeah I think it's the same stuff. <no, it's not allowed> <- prob not allowed. It's not bad stuff. I was fairly fucked on it at one stage today but it was after a way bigger dose than it would taken with pre ban meph. It was very short in duration too. It's not as stimmy as other stuff going around.
 
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A gram of the stuff I had lasted 6.5 hours. I'm going to be cursing if I wind up with 10g of half strength or something. When i had it i did a 200mg dose and the rest of the g sniffed. I would imagine had it been cut 200mg would have done nothing.

The second bit we all got early this morning (shiney shards) was good stuff but we only got 4 rounds of lines out of a g between the 4 of us that were still taking it by then. Ofcourse that was fairly sensible use in both cases.
 
Received and tried the stuff that is from the same source as Vertigo and Dr_Robotnik has.

It was good, but I can't remember very good how good it was. I need to give it a proper try again very soon so I that I can tell if it is good or bad pirate...

Normally I don't have such problems with my memory, but maybe I need to start to write things down
 
<snip> I've been getting rocky meph good speedy as fuck but not as emotive as I'd like it to be
 
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Pirate #793 said:
Received and tried the stuff that is from the same source as Vertigo and Dr_Robotnik has.

It was good, but I can't remember very good how good it was. I need to give it a proper try again very soon so I that I can tell if it is good or bad pirate...

Normally I don't have such problems with my memory, but maybe I need to start to write things down
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i usually dont get bad problems with memory on it either, i have done from that though
 
ColtDan no offense but did you say this smells of bleach? I just picked up 10gs and this is what I got I'm wondering is it even the same stuff as is being sent for 1g orders cos this time it's all big shards
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It absolute reeks pre ban style, my mate here agrees. Just had a line to be absolutely sure. Seems like either not everyone is getting the same stuff or we're all looking for different things.
 
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So had .2 so far in lines and looked at my eyes there does seem to be a lack of pupil dilation so far but my jaw is all over the shot as is my mates. Euphoria is there and having no problem seeking out wicked tunes actually gonna have a mix online, it's definately 4-MMC if there was a site who would test it cheaply I'd send in a bit I'm that sure.

This more shardy way it's come (cos I made a bigger order he says) seems better to sniff too it's got that instant kick off it. Definately better than even the shiney shards at the weekend.
 
Dr_Robotnik said:
ColtDan no offense but did you say this smells of bleach? I just picked up 10gs and this is what I got I'm wondering is it even the same stuff as is being sent for 1g orders cos this time it's all big shards
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It absolute reeks pre ban style, my mate here agrees. Just had a line to be absolutely sure. Seems like either not everyone is getting the same stuff or we're all looking for different things.
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Certainly looks like Mephedrone. Looks identical to the stuff I used to get before it was banned.
 
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