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AFAIK, Don, people were never terrified of that portrayal as Bergman is about existential horrors not supernatural ones. The fear - if any exists and it probably never did in any of his films as they are so self-consciously "arty" (to use a very loose term) - comes from the entire concept of death that creeps and flows murkily over the entire film. It's not meant to be a horror film. Psycholgical innit ;)
 
As for NDEs, I've OD'd a couple times on smack and - frankly - it's overwhelming bliss then straight to black. Obviously the substance invovled is known for euphoria but that black is pretty fukkin BLACK I can assure you. Much like a very deep sleep. Or - as Mark Twain points out - like the time before one is born. Just non-existence is all. The terrifying part is if there is some form of existence and you somehow failed to live up to whatever arbitrary mark that particular version specified. Despite what many pop culture documentaries and bestsellers portray, there is zero - absolutely zero - evidence of any version of life after death beyond the purely anecdotal. And more than half of that is disproved if investigated. The rest is most likely wishful thinking and confabulation. Or at least we best hope it is.
 
I don't believe (hope) there is any sort of conscious realm after death. Especially one where there is any form of judgement. It is a scary thought indeed, but not one that should dictate to your mind during life. Psychedelics have made me rather pantheist which has really removed any notion in my head of a conscious afterlife, just like I don't believe in any conscious deities.

And as you say - time and time again these spectacular NDEs where people encounter God/Satan, Heaven/Hell have been disproved and recently I read about a paralyzed boy who admitted that his best-selling book based on his NDE was a hoax. It was so apt that the boy's surname is Malarkey.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-experience-six-year-old-admits-thing-up.html
 
A tragic, tawdry and above all familiar tale sadly, Don. I have a general fascination with this whole subject but it seems the more you dig into it the more it turns out to be scams and bullshit. Some of it perhaps well-meaning but still ultimately knowlingly false.

Combine with the genuine scientific studies of NDEs and it's kinda hard to really put much faith in even as a wannabe believer tbh.
 
I would love for there to be something after death (especially after one has just lost a loved one.....the thought that you will one day be reunited with them is a huge comfort)... But....the evidence seems to suggest that the actual process is simply like the turning off of a light switch. Once the switch is off, it's off and what's more it has no knowledge of ever being on.

This is mind boggling if you think about it. If when you die your conscious mind simply switches off then you will have no mind to realise that it has.been switched off......you will simply cease to be and your conscious mind will just no longer exist.

You won't be able to even realise you're dead.... It's a horrible thought.

The one glimmer of hope.is that are.understanding of what consciousness and "the mind" actually is is pretty vague and there is still the remote possibility that the concious mind will live on after the body dies....we still don't really know what "life" is and what differentiates us from a pile of the chemical elements that make us up just piled into a bucket...why do we have this think called life and consciousness.... Are understanding is so vague that we can't discount the thought of our consciousness living on.....

I doubt if it does that it has anything at all to do with any of the organised religions though....no offence to anyone but to me religion is a bunch of fairy stories for gullible people....

Apologies for all the typos / autocorrects....I'm tired and I need my bed.

Goodnight good folk <3
 
englandgz74 said:
I would love for there to be something after death (especially after one has just lost a loved one.....the thought that you will one day be reunited with them is a huge comfort)... But...
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... what if that specifci version of an afterlife is not the "real one"? What if it's one of those cold and empty ones like the Ancient Greek vision of Hades? Or what if it's the Roman or Egyptian where all is based on status in life and ritual in death and tough shit if you fail cos you are but a pauper? There are literally hundreds if not thousands of versions of the Christian afterlife spoken about and then there are the other Abrahamic faiths which are essentially variations on a theme. Then there are sundry versions of reincarnation. Also such concepts as pantheism, ancestor worship and so on.

None of these are overly compatible so ya kinda have to take yer pick of which one you don't believe in to then hope you're wrong. Seems a fuckabout to me given all are equally possible and equally likely.

You won't be able to even realise you're dead.... It's a horrible thought.
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Honestly? Unless it's one of those uberafterlives that seems the best possible outcome.
 
Woke up.again.....still having those fucking nightmares about that incident several months back that I am told u about.....don't know why that particular one is haunting me so badly....

Re afterlife...man I just don't know. The thought of it just switching off and our existence here just being utter cosmic chance and totally pointless is hard to take.

If u think about the infinite nature of the universe, all the amazingly unprobable scenarios that go towards making life seem like one giant bowl of chance.... I mean if the universe is truly infinite then the condition are bound to have just fell into place on one of the many earth like planets...

A good analogy is the one where you have an infinite number of monkeys banging away at and infinite number of typewriters randomly and one will eventually come up with the works of Shakespeare.....

I would so hope that when I die I would be reunited with my mum, brother annually other relatives that have passed away. I'd so love that to be truthful...... I really would. Simply cos I miss them so very, very much :( :(

RIP mam... <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
 
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When i want to believe in an afterlife i just go for the einstein view of time that all moments exist together eternally - you still exist in all those moments (along with all your loved ones) - it just means that you need to make the most of the moments as they pass as they'll stay that way forever (sort of ends up like nietchze's eternal recurrence in effect) - in this view the problem with the word afterlife is the after bit - just call it life and you're already here/now, forever (man)
 
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Busty your wummin has her noise pierced does she not? Ask her how she deals with the snotter on the go and partying please? Discreet cotton bud, lil finger nail ????
 
Eveyvibe said:
Yes but whats that got to do with your piercing?

Evey
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How do you keep it clean / hygienic discreetly on a daily basis from , general sniffles to snorting powdered drugs and other facial disgusting (ie bukkake) thingamajigs ;)

I'm just looking for advice on how others deal with theirs in similar situations! :)
 
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