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Mr. Bananas said:
Hey dudes, im new to this game and i also live in Sweden, so swedish laws are restrictive and for the moment my question is what would suite me best while its still legal. I can not use any *racetam, and im not sure of any of the syntehtic ones, but herbs i can get easily get.

So this is what im thinking of for starters:
DMAE (im about to research centrophenoxine and might be able to use that in a near future)
ACh-givers, like ALC
L-theanine

Possibly legal to use:
Centrophenoxine
Vinpocetine
picamilone
other *racetams than piracetam, i checked the swedish official website for prescribed drugs and did not find anything but piracetam, so there might be a loophole there.

Illegal without a prescription:
Piracetam
*finil (i am aware that they are addictive and im surely not trying to get addicted, but as a casual super enhancer)
Adderal
Ritalin
Speed (duh :P)


What are your recomendations to add, subtract and so on?
Its for school btw.
 
Im taking cpl MDMA Loveheart pills on Friday, gonna try remember n take some Pirecetam an hour or so before and see if it brings back the magic. I don't think it will but worth a try maybe.

Will it matter that I haven't been taking it daily (not at all) for months now?
 
That's nonsense if it's going to work it will work regardless of whether I think it will or not. ;)
 
Mebbe ;)

Just saying that 'set & setting', which includes expectations, can play a significant part in such matters.

Let's hope you're in for a pleasant surprise, eh?

Be interested to hear how it goes :)
 
I might not even be able to do this little experiment of mines as going out for a round of pub golf tomorrow so I'd need to cap up the pirecetam before I went out and knowing me I prob won't get round to it. :\

I do however has some modafinil, does anyone know whether this would be usefull. My main problem when taking MDMA is that I mong to fuck out and end up with no energy to dance and monged out in the corner, could I take some modafinil before the pills in order to combat this?
 
Since this thread is so big I might as well mention it here, even though it's years old in BL years.

Been taking piracetam for about a week, 2g in the mornings. I think it might actually be working, I started "training" (sitting in a room listening) in a new job this week and it's actually all going in. Now, I prefer theory way more over anything practical but I've always had a terrible attention span, even for things I love.

Not being so depressed at the moment is obviously helping and it could all be the change of circumstances but I reckon it's working. I've started to take a "top up" 1g at lunchtime which I'll do just for this week but I'm not sure whether it's helpful since it must work best once it's in your system constantly? After this week I'll reduce it I suppose and see what happens then.
 
I found taking top up doses mid day (about half what i took in the morning) worked very well.

Once the main effects had kicked in (after about a month) i stop taking top up doses mid day because i seem to have a naturally low tolerance to piracetam and it makes me too jittery, but it may work differently on you.

So yeah, top up doses should increase the effects noticably.
 
i just received aniracetam, pyritinol, rhodiola, nac and alcar, gonna do some experimenting :D


the mentally "stimulating" effects might cause a state of hypomania in bipolars
i'm not officially diagnosed with bipolar, but i'm pretty sure i have it because of very bad moodswings, piracetam didnt makeme manic at all, instead i had teh impression i' mademe a little bit more stable

ive got ani now wich is more pottent, and well see how that one works out
 
Alice in floodland said:
I am however a bit afraid that the mentally "stimulating" effects might cause a state of hypomania in bipolars and as some of you mentioned manic symptoms, was wondering if anyone had heard of this occurring especially in relation to people who suffer from bipolar? I love my hypomanic phases because they are the times I am highly creative, sociable and energetic, but I know that they are almost invariably just a precursor to either full blown scary out of control mania or deep depression. Of course, if piracetam would cause me to be hypomanic without those consequences, bring it on!

I don't know much about bipolar disorder, but i do know that when i take too much piracetam i can become a little manic (temporarily during the day until it weares off). If you do try piracetam i can only suggest you are very careful with the dose, start much lower than recommended and build up slowly.

I'd be very interested to hear more about your grandma. How long has she been taking piracetam, how much of an effect does she think it has etc?
 
Was back to my old, tired, mind wandering self today. Not keen to see that back at all. I'm pretty sure that topping up on piracetam couldn't have caused it and it's related to lack of sleep instead.
 
Anyone know anything about piracetam's effect on blood circulation? I never even thought about it but I've been noticing my feet and hands are warm where they've always been ice cold even in the middle of summer. Other people feel cold now which is a weird one for me.

Only thought this morning that it might make sense for piracetam to have done this since it must do a similar thing in order to help your concentration?
 
I don't think it is a vasodilator, or vasoconstrictor. I don't think anyone knows how it really works, either.
 
Hmm, then where are my suddenly warm hands and feet coming from??? Has my blood only just realised I have hands and feet and bothered investigating I wonders.

Other people feeling cold is a very odd thing to experience as well when you're used to everyone being warmer than you.
 
Alice in floodland said:
She could be a walking advert for Piracetam, and has actually convinced several of her friends to start taking it. She has experienced no negative effects. She's also stubborn as hell :)


Thanks for that. I've always been tempted to recomend piracetam to my older relatives, but firstly i was unsure how much of a benefit it would actually be (not having heard any real examples) and secondly i'm still a bit worried about coming off as the crazey drug person when i try and explain it. Maybe i'll give it a go.

Alice in floodland said:
I am pretty sure I will give it a go though, starting with a low dose and building it up slowly, my boyfriend has agreed to monitor me as he recognises the early warning signs of oncoming mania in me and can take the tablets away just in case they're the cause.

One thing to consider - reactions to piracetam seem to vary considerably. Some people get no benefit from it at all, other people find it great. Personally i seem to be extra sensitive to the stuff and am taking about 250 to 300mgs a day (compared to some people taking a gram or two). I get good effects from this but when i take more i can get a little manic. Some of the doses i read about other people taking would leave me seeming as if i was on speed or something so going carefully with the dose is definitely a good idea.
 
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Stainboy said:
Anyone know anything about piracetam's effect on blood circulation? I never even thought about it but I've been noticing my feet and hands are warm where they've always been ice cold even in the middle of summer. Other people feel cold now which is a weird one for me.

Only thought this morning that it might make sense for piracetam to have done this since it must do a similar thing in order to help your concentration?

I'm guessing that as piracetam makes you feel slightly more alert and encourages you to do stuff that needs doing, even if it isn't a stimulant at all it would still encourage increased metabolic activity (just because you'd be doing more stuff, physical or mental, whilst under the influence). So i think that it would warm you up a bit.

I have no idea if it has any actual effect on body temperature other than this. If it does, i've not noticed it myself.
 
MrM said:
I'm guessing that as piracetam makes you feel slightly more alert and encourages you to do stuff that needs doing, even if it isn't a stimulant at all it would still encourage increased metabolic activity (just because you'd be doing more stuff, physical or mental, whilst under the influence). So i think that it would warm you up a bit.

I could just be as simple as that actually, I tend to go through phases of either doing absolutely nothing or a fair bit and have been doing more of the latter lately. I've also been doing things that while I'd have thought of in the past wouldn't have had the guts to, this extra kick has been a great help in lots of things.
 
After having a bit of a browse through the threads and the rest of ze net I've ordered myself a bunch of piracetam tablets.

Bloody sick of the mental fogginess and the inability to concentrate that plagues me and then even when I do manage to get stuck into the mountain of reading and writing that needs doing, not being able to remember a fucking thing :(

Not expecting any miracles with this but figured it can't hurt to give it a bash - any boost (placebo or not) in helping get this thesis written would be a much needed bonus.

Anyone have any recommendations with dosing? I'm not gonna bother with these so called 'attack doses' but thinking about starting off with 1600mg a day for a week or so, then drop it down to around 800mg/day. Sound about right? When taking 1600mg, would you recommend necking it all for breakfast or is it better to split it into two doses and have the second in the afternoon?
 
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