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EADD: New (or relatively new) RCs - Tweakier and more moreish

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i too am wondering what will come after the apbs...

theres plenty of psychedelics around... but stims are shittier and shittier.
what was the last one that killed people ? 4-mar?
 
I guess you could go down on the periodic table and replace O with S, it wouldn't be exactly the same, but should be near?
Wonder how hard the synth is...

or maybe bk-2c-b... not exactly the same, but has some positive reports?

or maybe mdai becomes popular again, mdai + dri isn't bad
 
bk2cb is good but its still a psychedelic. while i do love them, some people cant handle them in public, neither the headfuckiness nor the visuals, be they as minimal as they can get with bk2cb

mdai with dri gave me equal comedown to m1 with less fun during the experience. the mdai currently on offer is also not that good apparently
 
have yet to try bk-2c-b (have some just waiting for the right moment) and light trippynes is something I like, we'll see

strange, mdai+dri (eph) was nice for me, not really a md** or benzofuran replacement, but still quite enjoyable... won't comment on the comedown/hangover since neither mdai nor the aps and their cousins cause that in me (lucky I guess)... also, to make matters worse mdai is really hard to get atm

half a tab al-lad is also quite social

never tried methylone, so can't comment

wonder if replacing the O with S in MDxx and the benzofurans turns out anything good
 
lsz and al-lad give me visuals, except that al-lad visuals start faster and perhaps there is a little more of them... but both give pretty visuals on low doses... no demon faces and such + al-lad is a bit euphoric which is a plus for social situations

yes, I saw a few threads about the s compounds.... maybe the rc vendors give us a MDA/MDMA with S instead of O (or one S one O) and the apbs with S and maybe the compounds have good effects... who knows, I guess we'll see
 
How long has this stuff been on general sale?

Two seizures among BL users already is pretty bad going. Just think of what could potentially occur if it were to find its way into less responsible hands... 8(

Seems diphenidine is making the wrong kind of waves too:

Was wondering as well is there any discussion on whether all the batches suppliers are offering are the same or is it like other dissociatives and certain other rcs we have seen that have been quite popular but varied a lot from batch to batch. Especially with diphenidine in circulation. Example off top of my head were one of the x-meo-pcp analogues.
 
The bk versions of the apbs would still be illegal, right?

I would imagine so because cathinone backbone, but as it stands the apbs are only currently specifically banned by name hence why eapbs are around so maybe we might be lucky i dunno. Saying that, I don't think they would be that great and with the synthesis difficulty of 6-mapb it's unlikely they'll be that cheap.
 
Just checked https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...a/file/261783/Benzofuran_compounds_report.pdf

Any compound (not being a compound for the time being specified in paragraph
1(ba) of Part 1 of this Schedule) structurally derived from 1-benzofuran, 2,3-dihydro-
1-benzofuran, 1H-indole, indoline, 1H-indene, or indane by substitution in the 6-
membered ring with a 2-ethylamino substituent whether or not further substituted in
the ring system to any extent with alkyl, alkoxy, halide or haloalkyl substituents and
whether or not substituted in the ethylamino side-chain with one or more alkyl
substituents.

so basically everything
 
Thioketones? I prefer my drugs without disgusting foul odours, but to each their own. They'd also probably be prone to reacting with themselves, like bk-2C-B but worse.
 
This batch of 4-FA seems pretty weak. tis alright though. probably cos of all the speed over the past few weeks
 
Thioketones? I prefer my drugs without disgusting foul odours, but to each their own. They'd also probably be prone to reacting with themselves, like bk-2C-B but worse.

as long as they have good effects and no bad sides, they can smell like shit for all I care :D same goes for stability, if the powder is stable, i don't care what happens to them in solution... I mean the tryptamines aren't exactly stable in water either

bk-2c-b is funny, put it in water it turns purple, add some lemon juice it's transparent again, add some sodiumbicarb it's purple, ...
 
These potential chemicals have already been discussed in ADD:Thioketones. Consensus is that they'd smell horrendous and be unstable, and the pharmacologically savvy people think there might be potential for them to covalently bond to receptors (doubleplus ungood). Also, the usual way of synthesising a thioketone would be from the corresponding ketone, which would be controlled and would be an impurity in the final product, so they wouldn't even be legal. Sorry to piss on your barbecue, but we'll have to do better than that.
 
This batch of 4-FA seems pretty weak. tis alright though. probably cos of all the speed over the past few weeks

4-FA tolerance seems to build very quickly, it would be no surprise to me if your speed intake has reduced the effectiveness.

Doesn't seem to prevent the exception synergy with 6-APDB though.

For me, 4-FA comes into it's own at 180mg+. It's mostly functional but pleasant stimulation below that. However, others (Sam) find a threshold for serotonergic effects at 70mg+.

In conjunction with 6-APDB only 100mg+ of 4-FA is required to go mental.
 
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