EADD: New (or relatively new) RCs - Tweakier and more moreish

[knock]

Ahhh interesting. See the time I first attempted 6-APDB I had a tiny line of 4-FA and it gave me so much energy just off of that. I knew the combo would be good from such a small amount that time. What would you recommend dosage wise, Knock? Bombed together or spaced out?

100-150mg of each is a goood starting point. Both together is fine, though first time I tried it I did 200mg 4-FA then about 30 minutes later 150g 6-APDB.

 

[ColtDan]

So you're planning on ripping somebody off ?

Cockstar69 ripping people off

 

[babylonboy]

Can anyone give me a qualitative comparison of the various fluoroamphetamines please? Kenny perhaps?

 

[Kronos]

Is mpa any good? Got a shitload and i cant remember why.. good like, recreationally, would there be any advantage to give some to a mate for a house party? Or would it just be nasty dirty stimulation with no real party vibe value, i think most people have just said its an alright study aid

 

[Mental Kenny]

Is mpa any good? Got a shitload and i cant remember why.. good like, recreationally, would there be any advantage to give some to a mate for a house party? Or would it just be nasty dirty stimulation with no real party vibe value, i think most people have just said its an alright study aid

I didn't like it at all, even worst than ethylphenydate.

 

[knock]

I think MPA is OK with alcohol, but on it's own it's just a bit weird. However it gave me cockburn once (constantly feeling like I need to piss).

 

[Kronos]

Aww great , the fuck shall i do with all of it then? snowball fight when on some real drugs , or il just give it away to studenty folks, theyl sniff and love anything.

 

[Shambles]

Tried 2-FMA over the weekend. Disappointing stuff. Started off promising - very smooth, almost gentle, stimulation with almost no peripheral effects. Heart didn't even seem to be racing. Just a pleasing warmth in the chest and a very smooth overall stimulation. No euphoria whatsoever though. Not even a hint of it. No dysphoria either, mind. Kinda neutral really. Defnitely seemed to be showing promise but just never went anywhere. Little or no comedown though which was a bonus.

Oddly enough, I'd compare it to MDPV rather than any of the other F(M)As I've tried. Certainly doesn't have the intensity of peev - nor the uberfiend. In fact fiendishness was barely present at all. I could've not taken the whole gramme over a day or so but did cos I was hoping it would get more interesting. As it is, it just put me in that kinda vacant, almost trance-like state I get on after a couple days on peev. Only without the enjoyment of peev. Yes. I do enjoy peev

Doses started at ~40mg sniffed but this had little effect so rinsed and repeated over the next half hour or so till I got up to around 150mg in total which was kinda pleasant. Switched to plugged doses later on at ~100-200mg per go. No real rushes at all at any stage. Wasn't totaly shit exactly but just never seemed to go anywhere. Won't be bothering again. Did make a start on sorting kitchen out though which was what I was hoping to do when all stimmed up but was mostly too vacant and braindead to do much of anything other than bugger 'bout on me pooter and bugger it up in the process

Probably gonna try 4-FMA next. Have heard mixed reviews of that one as I have with the others. For me, 2-FA and 4-FA were great for different reasons. 2-FA is just a lovely clean stim. Closest to oldskool phet powder I've had in 20 years. Really liked it but probably lacking in euphoria for some. 4-FA was a lotta fun but I bought 2g and hammered the lot in a less than a day which was a bit much so got a bit messy and the comedown was brutal

Is 5-EAPB any good?

Nope. I posted me thoughts and opinions on it not long ago in this 'ere thread but the long and the short of it is that whilst it has a similar bodyfeel to the other APBs it has zero euphoria and is essentially pointless.

 

[swedger77]

Got some ethylphenidate.

Pretty tempted to bin it after all the negative posts about the stuff.

Anyone want to convince me to give it whirl. i Remember its a school night....................

 

[Kronos]

haha, if you got something to do tomorrow then do a (~5-15mg?) bump before ya go to work or whatever, afaik its pretty shit recreationally. But i dont know much about that one actually, ritalin is meant to be great IV so would this follow the same pattern?

But i think with eph, small doses for high functionality, high doses for shittie not-much-fun-but-il-snif-the-lot-anyways stimulation

 

[pontifex01]

Did any of you lot have a "honeymoon period" with 4-FA after which it became barely effective? I can snort 150mg now and literally be in bed two hours later, with a 2 day comedown to show for it and precious little else. Still had some pretty punishing sexathons on it, but the first times I did it people were gorgeous, music was amazing and my skin was one big orgasm.
After even two months off it doing it again was "allright this is good shit" the first day, tried it again the second and Nada, literally couldn't distinguish between it and sobriety other than raised tolerance to alcohol.

 

[Transform]

Interesting, does sound rather like classic loss of "magic", and would fit its drug class too. How often have you been doing it for how long pontifex?


@shambles: Yep, sounds about right. Very functional, rather uninteresting stimulant. Good for focus or wakefulness but not much fun on its own.

 

[Septonn]

^^ I've definitely noticed a decrease in effects in periods of heavier use. I now use it once a month or less, at ~220mg and it never really lets me down. Comedowns have not been that much of an issue for me with this stuff but like with MDMA I take 100mg of 5-htp for a couple of days afterwards

 

[pontifex01]

Interesting, does sound rather like classic loss of "magic", and would fit its drug class too. How often have you been doing it for how long pontifex?

That's what I was thinking T. It's like an MDMA lite but with an equal sensitivity to redosing...
Let's say I've done a grand total of 10g in a year... So averaged out, pretending it's MDMA, yeah that's quite a bit come to think of it. Septonn I think I'll use your dosing regimen or something like it in the future. I know I have no interest in touching it for a good while. One thing is certain, it can't be treated like average speed. Even lightish weekend use (say half a gram snorted over Friday and Saturday) can mess with your weekday mood. None of those Suicide Tuesdays but you're deffo not a happy bunny.

 

[Kronos]

Did any of you lot have a "honeymoon period" with 4-FA after which it became barely effective? I can snort 150mg now and literally be in bed two hours later, with a 2 day comedown to show for it and precious little else. Still had some pretty punishing sexathons on it, but the first times I did it people were gorgeous, music was amazing and my skin was one big orgasm.
After even two months off it doing it again was "allright this is good shit" the first day, tried it again the second and Nada, literally couldn't distinguish between it and sobriety other than raised tolerance to alcohol.

Cheers, good to know , only done it a handful of times a long time apart, nearly each time has been incredible!
Maybe its mdma like and if you give it a few months break youd get the 'magic' back?

 

[pontifex01]

Yeah I think so CK cos it's not that big of a kick in the face. Don't do it more than once a month if you want to keep it special mate.
Oh and mixed with G it becomes pure sex.

 

[Kronos]

Can handle self control with stims (sometime), only done 4fa 5 times over maybe 3 yrs, but got a bottle of ghb last month and it lasted me 5 or 6 days, 70g bottle. That stuff is fucking luscious! Thus i can never let myself do it again

 

[kingme]

4FA - got a friend who lost the magic too with that one, a summer of almost weekly use let him to a place where he need 200 oral to feel something and lasts a whole lot shorter now. also happened to him with methylone. and even with months of break he still gets less mashed up from them chems than previously. no magic left perhaps.
ive used it perhaps twice a month at most and have little tolerance to it (120mg and im feeling alllll rrrrriiiiight) but i use it rarely now.

4FMA is supposedly quite shit...

why no love for 2FMA? many describe it to be a smooth quite awesome stim for functionality, why would you be dissapointed when you try to take it recreationally? i mean, few have said its good for much else...
personally i find it goes great with some ghb or alcohol while out to town, and i get quite horny in all the right ways while on the tail end of it. no comedown mean i can do it a bit mroe often than serotoninergics so its win win.

2FA on the other hand is even less fun, but quite short. if you ve got work to plough through, this is it. and lets you sleep in 4 hours or so.

 

[Mental Kenny]

Can anyone give me a qualitative comparison of the various fluoroamphetamines please? Kenny perhaps?

Well I'm a huge fan of 4-FA, it's excellent, great stim overall no matter what the use, good in small doses for motivation, concentration and ADD self-help, and very recreational and euphoric at larger doses.

2-FA I also like, straight stim, similar to normal phet.

4-FMA I only took a couple of times, nothing to write home about, no point ordering as long as 4-FA is available

 

[kingme]

whats the scoop on 3fa?
ive got some but have yet to try it, apparently its more rushy and euphoric but with much worse comedown than the rest...