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EADD: New (or relatively new) RCs - Tweakier and more moreish

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Transform said:
I still think the deaths were a result of 5-IT mislabelled as 6-APB or something, since they were SO endemic.
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Why? How many deaths is 6 apb responsible for, none proven afaik

5-IT felt quite nice admittedly but there was something not quite right about it. And the deaths weren't just in Sweden, a regular over on a well known UK research forum died last year from it due to massive overheating. Not a nice way to go...

Plus someone else on the same forum had a mini-stroke while on it. Vendors tend not to withdraw stuff on such a large scale without fuckin good reason imho
 
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That's what I mean. I think 5-IT powder was sold and had the label "6-APB" on it. When people took it and found the effects were minimal after an hour, they took more.
 
Ah yeh right, sorry misunderstood what you were saying. Could well be that, as 5IT ad a 2-3hr onset iirc.

Although think the guy who had a stroke said hed had ~100mg which seems a pretty standard dose
 
5-IT in Sweden: during the first half of 2012, several deaths occured in connection to recreational 5-IT use. Obductions performed by the National Board of Forensic Medicine established this connection in 14 deaths. All of the deceased were young men in their 20's and 30's. In at least some of the cases 5-IT was deemed to be the primary cause of death. While 5-IT was the only substance detected in two of the cases, the rest of the dead seem to have been using it in combination with other substances.
 
so how come it was so localized? im sure it made it s way to other countries...
as for vendors having a conscience and actually being cautios about what they sell... lets not forget that some still sell brephedrone and the like, which are known to be neurotoxic. branded pills and mixes, free samples also dont strike me as being cautious...
 
kingme said:
so how come it was so localized? im sure it made it s way to other countries...
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I think it's due to the backwards local culture, extremely draconian laws and lack of information, but you can bet that whenever a new dangerous RC pops up on the international market, it's the Swedes who do most of the dying, every single time, it's been going on for years.
 
There have been deaths associated with 5-IT in the UK - there was a medical paper published a while back on the cases (should be in the main 5-IT thread - remember discussing it).
 
Right folks, I got a question that will require two answers...what is the best (and by best I think I mean functional and productive inducing) RC stim out there in your view?
I would like to know the one that is a) most readily available (eg. from standard UK teams) and b) perhaps slightly more obscure items from further afield...

At the moment based on my limited RC knowledge and experience I have a) Baxtercaine and b) 2-FA

Although from what I read on here, views will be conflicted, particularly concerning a)!!!

I'm looking for something that in the future I could perhaps go to work on if I was exhausted, or something to extend a drinking session without getting too messy. I know this question smells of bacon a bit, but fuck it, I think you know me by now
 
personally, baxtercaine. Ethylphenidate. Is my go-to stim for just staying awake and getting on with stuff.


It's not particularly fun, it's not super potent, but it beats caffeine into the floor.

YMMV though. Jancrow finds it a bit sketchy. 50-60mg is probably a good upper limit.
 
baxtercaine? sounds like something that a rapper might shill :-) no experience with it though so cant say

anyway id go for 2fa.
mpa has a weird profile for me, starts off good but then i get a long comedown / after effect period. similar with eph.

low dose 2fma also is great.
34ctmp is ok for pure wakefulness with no fun but most hate it to death. for some reason
 
Three different answers, take your pick!

I like MPA too, but I find it slightly less functional than EPH. I have it as an occasional treat while I use EPH practically daily.
 
Yes my EPH use has become rather more frequent than is probably good for me. I find I can function perfectly normally on it arousing no suspicion whatsoever. I don't have any ill effects from it but probably would if I wasn't knocking myself out with etiz at the end of the day. Temporarily weened off both though...
 
backroll said:
Right folks, I got a question that will require two answers...what is the best (and by best I think I mean functional and productive inducing) RC stim out there in your view?
I would like to know the one that is a) most readily available (eg. from standard UK teams) and b) perhaps slightly more obscure items from further afield...

At the moment based on my limited RC knowledge and experience I have a) Baxtercaine and b) 2-FA

Although from what I read on here, views will be conflicted, particularly concerning a)!!!

I'm looking for something that in the future I could perhaps go to work on if I was exhausted, or something to extend a drinking session without getting too messy. I know this question smells of bacon a bit, but fuck it, I think you know me by now
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b, modafinil - a very good functional stim. Everyone whos tried it rates it very highly. Its a prescription medicine rather than an RC.
 
serotoni what a pill of dangerous shite that is stay well clear of it instant serotonin syndrome fucking stupid drug 12 hour of teeth shattering and fuck all else 500mg gone in one session because you're always chasing a high thats not there waste of money and life with this one

roll on the morning post and 3 g of mpa to sort this crap out feel of today because of that shite not come down off but just damn weird now was ok but now every cig and cup of coffee are leaving me feeling like im chasing a high
 
500mg! Blimey, that seems a bit much considering that the very few who've tried it are dosing around 70 mg. What size was your first dose?
 
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