EADD: New (or relatively new) RCs - Tweakier and more moreish

[crazycatman]

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Hmmm. There is definitely some sort of synergy between MXE and MPA. My MXE tolerance means I don't really feel anything under about 150mg and I find the negative effects start to dominate at that kind of dose. But I had 50mg MPA at about 2pm and I've just dosed 50mg MXE which would normally go pretty much unnoticed, but instead I'm feeling quite wonky!

I will experiment more with this combo. I've blacked out on MXE and MPA before, when I had no tolerance, so I knew there was something at play, this confirms it. I'm even getting my MXE font on the computer! This is unheard of in recent times! :D

MXE is supposed to do some thing to dopamine, maybe because of that? I know MXE + EPH is not recommended.

 

[crazycatman]

What's etizolam like? I think I might get some for comedowns etc. cuz I can't get my alprazolam script refilled for a couple weeks but I've heard it's pretty heavy on the blackouts?

Best of the online benzos currently. Hits fast, has some euphoria. Doesn't cause blackouts in sane doses (I'm sure 100mg would) for me but everyone is different.
The negatives are - lots of the pellets are crap + lasts a bit short.

WD wise... widely variable from almost none to hell on earth.

Sorry about the tripple post, I tried to merge and delete them but it's not working..

 

[Pagey]

Best of the online benzos currently. Hits fast, has some euphoria. Doesn't cause blackouts in sane doses (I'm sure 100mg would) for me but everyone is different.
The negatives are - lots of the pellets are crap + lasts a bit short.

WD wise... widely variable from almost none to hell on earth.

Sorry about the tripple post, I tried to merge and delete them but it's not working..

Haha, funny you should answer now...I ended up getting some and trying it out for the first time last sunday, ended up blacked out almost 24/7 until thursday morning and didn't even get any kind of euphoria. Not getting that one again :D

 

[mydrugbuddy]

Haha, funny you should answer now...I ended up getting some and trying it out for the first time last sunday, ended up blacked out almost 24/7 until thursday morning and didn't even get any kind of euphoria. Not getting that one again :D

something tells me you got the dose wrong

At the correct dose; it really is very nice. Very, very nice. Try taking just 1mg on its own (with no other substances at all) before bed and you'll get a better idea of its effects. How much did you take to be blacked out for so long ?

Ive been on some mad binges but the longest ive been totally blacked out for is 24 hours, as far as i can remember

 

[knock]

MXE is supposed to do some thing to dopamine, maybe because of that? I know MXE + EPH is not recommended.

Maybe, the ACMD report showed no dopamine receptor binding affinity for any of the ACHs they tested (and subsequently banned), but I suppose drugs can do things other than binding to receptors... where's F'n'B when you need him?

 

[Pagey]

something tells me you got the dose wrong

At the correct dose; it really is very nice. Very, very nice. Try taking just 1mg on its own (with no other substances at all) before bed and you'll get a better idea of its effects. How much did you take to be blacked out for so long ?

Ive been on some mad binges but the longest ive been totally blacked out for is 24 hours, as far as i can remember

That's the thing though, I tried lots of different doses...I started with 1mg, felt literally nothing, 5mg literally nothing, got frustrated (was at the tail end of a stim session) and just swallowed a shitload which I then figured out to be 37mg
Honestly though I just don't like it...it didn't pack any kind of punch for me, not sedative at all and no euphoria. I'm sure others get better stuff from it but I was really disappointed.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

Just received a free 30mg sample of UR144 with my latest order of something else. Weird how they're so stingy with the cannaboid samples, i could have gone for 250mg methylone or 160mg 4fa instead but i opted for the UR as i remember it being very nice. Totally unlike other cannabinoids it put me in a very tranquil almost medatative state of mind.

Ive done the maths on how much herb base i need for mixing the 30 mg into and it turns out to be not very much at all - the equivalent of two well stacked bongs. Each of these stacks gives about 8 hits.

Considering how strong these powders are I may only need about 3 or 4 hits, so I'll just half fill the bong. That way it may stretch out to last for 2 'sessions'. So it wasnt such a bad deal after all. I think the methylone and 4fa doses would only have been enough for one session.

Just remembered about it now, i should have acetone sprayed my herbs as soon as it arrived this morning cos it could have been ready for tonight. Ive left it too late now to do the job and use it today, the acetone wont evaporate in time.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

That's the thing though, I tried lots of different doses...I started with 1mg, felt literally nothing, 5mg literally nothing, got frustrated (was at the tail end of a stim session) and just swallowed a shitload which I then figured out to be 37mg
Honestly though I just don't like it...it didn't pack any kind of punch for me, not sedative at all and no euphoria. I'm sure others get better stuff from it but I was really disappointed.

jesus ! 37mg for someone with no tolerance ? That's well past the danger zone. It sounds like you got duff "generic" (shiity home made tablets) that are known for containing wildly varying doses. Some pills have 0 etiz in them while some have had up to 4mg. I only ever use Intas etilaam etizolams. They are always bang on 1mg each. As Im on a taper now its very important to know im getting the correct dose.

I bought in bulk whilst a few UK retailers were still selling them. Glad i did as it seems impossible to get the Intas Etilaams now unless you order them direct from India. Im not very confident that it would get through customs.

 

[knock]

Pagey is no stranger to benzos, MDB, so I'm sure cross tolerance was involved.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

ah sorry dunno why i was under the wrong impression.

 

[knock]

It's still a fuckload of etizolam

 

[mydrugbuddy]

yes, by anybody's standards.

Different subject: I'm trying decide on how mych ethylphenidate to buy. The savings to be made by making larger orders are astronomical. I wonder if the vendors are selling at a loss or near cost price at bulk amounts if we're allowed to discuss such things ? The profits they must be making when people buy 1g at a time must be astronomical.

At the moment ethylphenidate is the most cost effective way of lifting my mood. From Down in the Doldrums to chirpy and chipper in a matter of minutes. I wish i could get it on prescription lol. It's very easy going on the body too, compared to say, real speed. I had some of that the other day and even though i got a normal amount of sleep i was wrecked the next day. The colour of my piss was almost black, which i was really shocked at, i must have been extremely dehydrated and i cant have drank more than half a cup of tea the whole day before, nor eaten more than Bear Grylls on his expeditions when he calls a couple of beatles "a meal".

Strange and wonderful how ethyl gives so much but takes so little - in terms of fucking your body up.

 

[crazycatman]

Haha, funny you should answer now...I ended up getting some and trying it out for the first time last sunday, ended up blacked out almost 24/7 until thursday morning and didn't even get any kind of euphoria. Not getting that one again :D

How much did you take? All of it :D

Maybe, the ACMD report showed no dopamine receptor binding affinity for any of the ACHs they tested (and subsequently banned), but I suppose drugs can do things other than binding to receptors... where's F'n'B when you need him?

I was going by the thread with dangerous mxe combinations. If there's no binding then either eph + mxe is ok or there is some other mechanism.

 

[Pagey]

jesus ! 37mg for someone with no tolerance ? That's well past the danger zone. It sounds like you got duff "generic" (shiity home made tablets) that are known for containing wildly varying doses. Some pills have 0 etiz in them while some have had up to 4mg. I only ever use Intas etilaam etizolams. They are always bang on 1mg each. As Im on a taper now its very important to know im getting the correct dose.

I bought in bulk whilst a few UK retailers were still selling them. Glad i did as it seems impossible to get the Intas Etilaams now unless you order them direct from India. Im not very confident that it would get through customs.

Pagey is no stranger to benzos, MDB, so I'm sure cross tolerance was involved.

ah sorry dunno why i was under the wrong impression.

Haha yeah I used to be on 12mg Xanax a day MDB, I'm far from having no tolerance! But yeah it was still a fuckload and a very stupid thing to do and might explain why I was knocked out for 3 days straight 8)

 

[knock]

This 4-FA/6-APDB combo is really worth talking about. It is a pretty fucking hardcore MDMA/MDA like experience. Better /stronger than MDMA, I haven't knowingly had MDA but from what I've read, this is very similar. But maybe more intense. I had 150mg 4-FA and 100mg 6-APDB and I couldn't see for what seemed like 2 hours. Blown away.

It's probably not very good for you, seeing how great it is. So I'm keeping it for special occasions. But it is fucking great.

Maybe ever so slightly short-lived, compared to MDMA. Haven't tried redosing.

edit: Oh, and while I was totally wiped out the following day, I felt fucking great after that. Though I am on PV so that might be helping.

So has anyone else tried it? Apart from Pagey (the Inventor) and me (the Guinea Pig)?

 

[gayorstraight]

This 4-FA/6-APDB combo is really worth talking about. It is a pretty fucking hardcore MDMA/MDA like experience. Better /stronger than MDMA, I haven't knowingly had MDA but from what I've read, this is very similar. But maybe more intense. I had 150mg 4-FA and 100mg 6-APDB and I couldn't see for what seemed like 2 hours. Blown away.

It's probably not very good for you, seeing how great it is. So I'm keeping it for special occasions. But it is fucking great.

Maybe ever so slightly short-lived, compared to MDMA. Haven't tried redosing.

edit: Oh, and while I was totally wiped out the following day, I felt fucking great after that. Though I am on PV so that might be helping.

So has anyone else tried it? Apart from Pagey (the Inventor) and me (the Guinea Pig)?

I haven't tried the combo yet but I haz teh goods to consume this weekend.

6-apdb on its own was pretty mental so one can only imagine.


Edit >>>>>
Not posted for ages and server busy. H8 BL.

 

[knock]

I haven't really tried a proper dose of 6-APDB on it's own, so I can't compare, but Pagey says the 4-FA takes it to another level, and I was on another level, no doubt...

 

[gayorstraight]

I haven't really tried a proper dose of 6-APDB on it's own, so I can't compare, but Pagey says the 4-FA takes it to another level, and I was on another level, no doubt...

Mine was a pretty heroic dose (for size and tolerance etc) and it certainly was worth talking about and recommending to family and friends

 

[Kronos]

Aye there any of these 100's of cannabanoids that are about that just have a nice relaxing effect without triggering any panic attacks/headfuck? I'd love to be able to enjoy a nice smoke on an evening, but skunk just sends me headfucked and anxious, i'd love the relaxing part without that


Also flubromazepam powder meant to be coming to a reputable site soon, from what i heard before when it made a breif appearence this is a lovely benzo!

 

[ColtDan]

but skunk just sends me headfucked and anxious, i'd love the relaxing part without that

Same