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EADD: New (and less new) RCs - steric hindrance and vestigial rituals

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2FA is quite similar to speed in my book too. 3-FA is more dopaminergic....doesn't have that DA/NE balance so critical to a good stim IMO. But IV is quite the lush rush. I still say that a-ppp IV is amongst the most intense rushes available.....almost like cocaine. Ugh. Look at the ki of such! It's got the balance! I think I even wrote a trip report years ago on my meanderings with such.....200mg will knock your socks off.

* I am actually quite pleased I don't do stims anymore, especially IV. Knackers! *
 
Tempted to try some 2-FA

Just done a 150mg of 4-FA. broken my rule of doing drugs through the week but fuck it lol
 
If you like speed, you will like tufa. S'that simple.

Still waiting on my sample of mebroqualone...
 
Indeed, i like rushy things. and gurny music enhancing things. and rushy gurny things. pre ban meph was the tits for that, loved that stuff
 
Tufa is less gurny, more clenchy, if you get me, which is more my thing, but you seem to like phet, so you'd probably like tufa.
 
Yeah phet is nice, the only thing ive disliked about it is getting cold and getting sweaty. assume its got that crystal clear thought clarity? 4 seems to fog me up a bit sometimes, when the dose gets higher, or my short term memory gets scatty, but thats usually the combo of booze as well. or at least i think it is. last time i tried a low dose of 4 it felt pretty similar to speed. deffo will give that 2 a bash
 
Got some 4-FA on the way...:)

Be my first time trying any of the fluoro amphetamines...

A good starting dose for a Friday night out?
 
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200mg

Did a 150mg earlier, proper nice im feeling good. it aint quite there though. 200mg for a night out you'll be tingly, lovely, slightly gurny, music will sound enriched and amazing. still yet to get a proper comedown off it as well. its almost perfect for me, MDMA is a bit too loved up over the top and messy, speed doesnt get music sounding amazing enough but its good, meph is hit and miss batches plus rough comedown but amazing buzz
 
Have look over at the meph thread, I posted pic of tested genuine 4mmc, I had that and some *no brand name / vendor references please* last weekend.

Both lack feelings that used to make meph the ultimate drug (for me) so for now its byebye time pirate, hello 4FA !
 
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Ok i'll have a look

Also bear in mind batches of 4-FA vary, but ive not had as shit batch yet, for some reason ive got 2 diff ones here, off white and pure white. aint tried the off white yet
 
Yeah phet is nice, the only thing ive disliked about it is getting cold and getting sweaty. assume its got that crystal clear thought clarity? 4 seems to fog me up a bit sometimes, when the dose gets higher, or my short term memory gets scatty, but thats usually the combo of booze as well. or at least i think it is. last time i tried a low dose of 4 it felt pretty similar to speed. deffo will give that 2 a bash

I've noticed some foggyness from it too, without drinking I might add, especially when used in higher doses on a fairly regular basis (150-200mg/ 1-2 times a week). Nothing too problematic, just not feeling very focused.

Also, 200mg might be a bit much for a first try? Won't kill anybody, but I eased my way up into the 200+ range, started out around 120mg.
 
Nah go for 200mg, the batches are weaker, doesnt seem to get golden until 200mg. better to start high rather than dose low and keep re-dosing. let my mate try it the other day 200mg with no tolerance he was fine and loved it
 
Starting out at "recreational doses" is really not harm reduction.

WIth a new bag of any chemical, there are very good reasons for starting at very small doses and working up.

- the vendor might have sent you something totally different.
- the purity might be significantly different to what you are used to.

These are not just theoretical reasons. People have died because they were sent the wrong chemical. A notable example is when bromo-dragonfly was sent out mislabelled as 2-CE. Several people died because they dosed it as 2-CE, bromo-dragonfly is active and indeed deadly at much lower doses than a typical 2-CE dose.

And with a chemical you have never tried before, you may be allergic, or particularly sensitive, and this may cause serious problems or death.

For this reason, with any new bag of drugs, particularly RCs, you should start off with a tiny amount, and increase dosage until you reach a dose with the effects you're after.

Now, when you're getting something from the same source and time after time the product you get looks and smells and tastes and feels identical, it is normal for complacency to set in. You're taking a risk, all the same, because some drugs do look and smell and taste like other drugs. But it's a much lower risk than when you're taking a drug for the first time.

I am not perfect and I've taken risks that I should not have. But I promise you it really is my habit to start off with an allergy test and build up. Not only does it actually reduce the risk of my death, it makes the drug experience much more pleasant because I'm not worried that I've taken some dodgy shit like bromo-dragonfly and am about to die. On some occasions where I haven't been cautious, I have been worried and it has ruined things for quite a while.

So no, don't go for 200mg. Go for 1mg rubbed on your skin, then wait a few hours, then 1mg rubbed on your lip, then wait a few hours. And if nothing untoward happens, you're probably not allergic. And It's probably not bromo-dragonfly. So double the dose to 2mg, taken however you prefer. Then double it to 4mg, then 8, then maybe go up to 20, then 40, then 80, then maybe 200mg.

That way you won't kill yourself or end up having limbs amputated.

And I don't care how many drugs you've just boshed and suffered no ill effects. Those people that died from bromo-dragonfly had surely boshed lots of drugs and were fine. It only takes one mislabelled baggie to kill you, and that could happen at any time in your drug-taking career. It's not just your stupidity that you have to worry about, but your source's stupidity too.
 
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