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EADD Mephedrone (4-MMC) Megathread v. XV Pirate Flagship

BecomingJulie said:
There probably is some precursor chemical that is now harder to get hold of since the mephedrone ban -- especially if it is not used for much else besides making mephedrone, which would see chemical supply houses charged with aiding and abetting.
Anyway, who's to say there won't be a new wonder drug coming out really soon now, that young and old alike will think is the D.B.s?
A time machine would be really good for four-dimensional drug tourism!
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I love the idea of a drug tourism time machine! But I'd probably miss my smartphone. What about a virtual reality machine which gives the brain the high of choice, and possibly the full experience (early 90's rave, '70s disco, '60s Frisco) without the chemical damage? Sorry Julie for going off topic.

About your new wonder drug... with the analogue act that's unlikely to happen is it? (Thanks Theresa).
Of course it could be completely illegal from the inset but one of the advantages (and a huge downside) of pre-ban meph was its availability.
 
BecomingJulie said:
There probably is some precursor chemical that is now harder to get hold of since the mephedrone ban -- especially if it is not used for much else besides making mephedrone, which would see chemical supply houses charged with aiding and abetting.

Anyway, who's to say there won't be a new wonder drug coming out really soon now, that young and old alike will think is the D.B.s?

A time machine would be really good for four-dimensional drug tourism!
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It's never *just* about the drug. MDMA was about house music/raves. Meph was about the internet/new sales tactics/being the first good legal high. Not sure what will happen to popularise a new drug.

Even if we get the correct conditions, consider the MDMA and meph crazes were 20 years apart, so could be another 20 years... Still, it will be something to fill my retirement years with. ;)
 
JohnnyVodka said:
So what is the deal with meph? How come no-one is making decent stuff? Is it harder to make than ?
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1) It is easy that the synt yield an analogue ( 3-mmc or whatnot) , and no one knows why it happens ( source: one of the main cook)
And only 4-mmc has the magic, anything else is inferior

2) Someone cooks shitty analogues on purpose, because they are legal

Anyway, the shortage of offer in front of an evident demand is strange.


F.U.B.A.R. said:
. It's the same with those other 'classics' of the RC generation - MXE and MDPV
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Pretty true.
Probably we overstimate the efficiency and professionality of the black market. Drug market is about C , H , meth, mj, MDMA and little else. I can also notice that ( fortunately) there is almost no fent or meth in Europe. It is not an usual market where the demand meet the offer, it is focused on the main drugs and often offer-driven.
 
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George27 said:
1) It is easy that the synt yield an analogue ( 3-mmc or whatnot) , and no one knows why it happens ( source: one of the main cook)
And only 4-mmc has the magic, anything else is inferior
2) Someone cooks shitty analogues on purpose, because they are legal
Anyway, the shortage of offer in front of an evident demand is strange.
Pretty true.
Probably we overstimate the efficiency and professionality of the black market. Drug market is about C , H , meth, mj, MDMA and little else. I can also notice that ( fortunately) there is almost no fent or meth in Europe. It is not an usual market where the demand meet the offer, it is focused on the main drugs and often offer-driven.
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I wonder if one of the reasons is because pre-ban quality mephedrone would kill the highly profitable cocaine market... maybe it would also affect crack and MDMA/pills sales.
 
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Also, if the manufacture of mephedrone is harder than the manufacture of, say, cocaine, (meth)amphetamine or MDMA (and you'd expect that with long-established drugs, the processes would have evolved a long way by now), there's little point in doing it now it's no longer legal. Especially if, as Safrolette points out, it will only come at the expense of your other business.

You'd have thought some Fred-in-the-Shed old-skool chemist would have had a go at some old-skool chemistry by now, though ..... Or maybe they have, they're just playing their cards a bit close to their chest .....
 
They'll probably start making proper meph again once they've flogged all the leftover bags of now illegal RCs (as mephedrone).
 
Tranced said:
^There should be some kind of request form/petition for the top drug king pins. Get 10,000 yes votes and they'll bring back mda pills, stuff like that.
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Have you tried any of the MDA of the dark net? It's certainly very strong but for me not anything like the pills from back in the day. I tried some MDA/MDMA combos but I ended up vomiting. Will hopefully revisit it one day though.
 
I have just received what is supposed to be 4-mmc and have been told it?s very good.
Certainly dosnt smell like the old stuff
 
cLaTTeReD said:
I have just received what is supposed to be 4-mmc and have been told it?s very good.
Certainly dosnt smell like the old stuff
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Yeah let us now how you get on. I am preferring Hexedrone to any of the meph out there now myself.
 
cLaTTeReD said:
I have just received what is supposed to be 4-mmc and have been told it?s very good.
Certainly dosnt smell like the old stuff
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I wouldn't judge what you have on the smell..

Had plenty of reeky 'meph' that has been virtually inactive, and stuff with little scent that has been ace.
 
Looked, smelled and tasted the part.
Sadly didn?t deliver. Would love to know what it actually is.
Must be chemically similar to 4mmc.

What?s hexedrone like in comparison to proper 4mmc ?
 
I would put Hexedrone halfway between meph and coke. It's not for binging on though (although you will want to). It's more damaging to the nose and tolerance builds very fast. Porn is good, at least for a while. But definitely don't binge on the stuff.
 
Diminished high, just delaying the crash really, which you are also making worse. You will need benzos, codeine etc... if you go down that route sunshine.
 
Quicker than meph for sure, maybe the same as coke for me. One thing I have not done though is vape Hexedrone which I hear can be good.
 
Benson I have tried everything you send you a PM, could you possibly send me one I can reply to please ?
 
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