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EADD Mephedrone (4-MMC) Megathread v. XIV Pirate Flagship

SummerSerenade said:
I thought MDMA and meph was a bollocks combo and pretty pointless. I didn't feel shit at all in terms of comedowns after but the person I did it with did iirc. It's a waste, similar enough effects as it is, why not do them seperately and get better effects and get two amazing highs instead of one shit one? :P

QUESTION TIME THOUGH:
Injecting meph - worth it or nein? Heard the effects aren't significantly better but that may be me misremembering. Also dose for someone with (big but not huge) meph tolerance? Similar amount to injecting coke or speed?
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No, meph +m1 or MDMA can be an ace combo if you get the balance right. This is for the same reasons old ravers would mix speed and mdma. Md eventually becomes a bit mongy on its own, so you need something to give it a boot up the arse. Equally, the more I did meph, the less 'pilly' and empathy inducing it became. Md restores that a bit. Meph and MD are the total opposite of each other once you get used to them. Md for empathy, loved-upness, music appreciation; meph for filthy horniness.

You're seriously asking if it's a good idea to start injecting? :|
 
I'm very fond of M1 and meph. Though now worry about my heart packing out on the combo 8(



Edit: but I am a "bit" older...
 
JohnnyVodka said:
You're seriously asking if it's a good idea to start injecting? :|
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Not in general, have injected before anyway, just wanted to know if it was 'worth it' so to speak with meph (in terms of it being that much better than sniffing or whatever) cos I'm sure I saw before that it's not that much better.

As for the other thing I've only done MD a few times but the time I enjoyed it most was definitely when I didn't combine it with anything. I don't think meph is that different really from my experience so far, used to get massive empathy from meph and music appreciation. More so than I've ever got from MDMA so far anyway.
 
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I've never and never would inject. Mostly because I'm a drug pig with far too many addiction issues. Just wouldn't go there as I know I'd be hooked on it. Sometimes its good to draw a line and stay on your side to win.
 
Back when it was legal most of the problems with people getting ill from meph seemed to either be because they had combo'd it unwisely with other drugs or they'd injected it, or both. So probably best to stay away from injecting it. I've never heard of anyone saying the effects are markedly better than when bombed.
 
ddhats said:
I've never heard of anyone saying the effects are markedly better than when bombed.
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This is exactly what I seem to remember hearing and was why I was pretty sure it wouldn't be worth injecting (even though I prefer sniffed to bombed but that could be because of tolerance or whatever... either way, same principal). Glad I hadn't been imagining that. I have injected a couple of times before (speed not meph) so that isn't the problem, just don't want to take the extra risk if it's basically pointless with meph.

My opinions on injecting stuff are much more suited to another debate but I have no issue with doing it really (which is debatably a bad thing but...). I don't think the taboo around it is justified, if you know what you're fucking doing then yes it's more addictive but loads more risky? Not really.

Not worth it with meph though I have decided, will use the rest of my needles when I get some lurvely (as in reasonably pure) coke again. <3

On a meph note this batch I've got now is quality, feeling loads even off a little bit and with a hugeish tolerance.
 
doing mdma + meph combo would be a lot like doing mdma + coke eg pointless + dangerous unless you want to kill your md high

mixing a massive dopamine release drug(like meph or coke) with serotonin drug(mdma) is not that good thing to do
 
Coke + meph is one of the worst combos I've done conversationally, although that was probably due to the amount I did as much as anything. Worst comedowny feeling I've ever had, got home from house party at 10am, couldn't fucking sleep for about 12 hours after that because my heart was going like mad and I felt twitchy and uncomfortable as fuck. Horrible horrible feeling, thought I'd need to go to hospital at one point because I had such bad chest pains, never had anything like that since though because I'm not a careless twat as much anymore.

MDMA and meph was just meh for me, seemed to kill the best of both a bit. I didn't do loads of either, about 200mg MD and er... same of meph? With meph tolerance too. Didn't fuck me up at all after but the certain person I was with was both really fucked at the time and got a shitty comedown from it.

Lightweight tbh ;)
 
200mg mdma is pretty high, well without tolerance. i can roll balls on 100mg lol.fucks me up way too much
I am the same i don't bother doing stupid stuff with drugs anymore. But i still make a lot of mistakes

i don't want to get started another pre ban meph debate zzzz but yah even though the first times are never going to be as good or the same, can still tell the difference imhe
 
SummerSerenade said:
I thought MDMA and meph was a bollocks combo and pretty pointless. I didn't feel shit at all in terms of comedowns after but the person I did it with did iirc.
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Indeed, rubbish combo tbh. They kinda feel like they should mix but never properly have done for me
 
SummerSerenade said:
Coke + meph is one of the worst combos I've done conversationally, although that was probably due to the amount I did as much as anything. Worst comedowny feeling I've ever had, got home from house party at 10am, couldn't fucking sleep for about 12 hours after that because my heart was going like mad and I felt twitchy and uncomfortable as fuck. Horrible horrible feeling, thought I'd need to go to hospital at one point because I had such bad chest pains, never had anything like that since though because I'm not a careless twat as much anymore.

MDMA and meph was just meh for me, seemed to kill the best of both a bit. I didn't do loads of either, about 200mg MD and er... same of meph? With meph tolerance too. Didn't fuck me up at all after but the certain person I was with was both really fucked at the time and got a shitty comedown from it.

Lightweight tbh ;)
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Mephs a strange one. Its just so strong and hard hitting that its basically pointless mixing it with other stims. It overridea the other substance imo. A bit of cannabis or ghb goes well but your best off keeping the other stuff for another night.
 
r0llin balls said:
Mephs a strange one. Its just so strong and hard hitting that its basically pointless mixing it with other stims. It overridea the other substance imo. A bit of cannabis or ghb goes well but your best off keeping the other stuff for another night.
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Yep in my fairly extensive experience the only things worth mixing with meph are booze, cannabis and methylone. The four of those substances in the right quantities go together very nicely indeed!
 
agreed. + nitrous. Booze meph and nos is a wicked combo
 
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ddhats said:
Yep in my fairly extensive experience the only things worth mixing with meph are booze, cannabis and methylone.
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Absolutely yes to that, I've only smoked weed a handful of times anyway but the two times I've done it after a night of being on meph I've been amazed how nicely it's worked with it. Makes me sleep like a baby as well.
 
zzz101 said:
doing mdma + meph combo would be a lot like doing mdma + coke eg pointless + dangerous unless you want to kill your md high

mixing a massive dopamine release drug(like meph or coke) with serotonin drug(mdma) is not that good thing to do
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This is why you ensure the ratio is 2:1 or 3:1 in favour of the mandy. You never heard of ravers mixing speed and pills before?

That said, I once had really bad double vision from this combo, which seriously freaked me out and had me worried (should I have been?).

Also the comedown can be even more horrific than either substance alone.
 
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Last time i had proper bad double vision from it as well, couldn't see shit until the meph started to wear off. and yeah terrible comedown
 
Proper suicidal comedown - hiding under the duvet and whenever I awoke I'd just want to etiz or booze myself to sleep again. This was for 3 - 4 days.

Haha - was thinking about trying to track down mandy and meph for the Xmas hols, but have talked myself into sticking to the meph.
 
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had a few beers and 2mg etiz and got in fuck it mode and just had around 80mg meph feeling good but dont wanna feel too terrible tomorrow, so gonna put the meph away. i have some ephylphenidate that i havent tried yet and am considering taking a small line now to see how it is, bad idea?
 
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