EADD Mephedrone (4-MMC) Megathread v. XIV Pirate Flagship

[SummerSerenade]

Since last November. Haven't had more than a couple of weeks break since I started aside from the xmas holiday when I had a month off. Generally do 3.5g in 7-8 days then have a week or a bit more off. Not because of planning, that's just how it works out. Never really crave it, it's just I don't get comedowns from it or any other negative effects so far so I've got no problem with how much I do. I like it because it's cheap and easy to get but when it's not a patch on good coke for me, shame that's like 100000x the price

 

[Bare_head]

man send that shit my way to stop my mate going completely crazy as the stuff he is buying isn't 4mmc and is sending him west ..

on a more serious note 4mmc still around then, i have seen alot of weidnos reports of meph being found in actual street meph rather than some other legal high,

its a sad state of affairs but the meph scene was killed a long time ago by the government, not to say 4mmc isnt around still, but the quality overall took a plummet ten fold

 

[dee_dee]

Consider yourself very lucky you dont get comedowns from Meph lol.

London has been flooded with the stuff for the last 3 or so years at least. Just as much chance of it being some kind of closely related compound imo as it is being proper mephedrone, they are all quite similar but the high can vary from being decent to quite poor.

It doesnt hold a candle to decent mdma for me personally, but if i take it it tends to be just because its there and everyones else is doing so. Seems fun at the time but always end up feeling why did i bother afterwards, and that smell, clothes, trainers, everything stinks of it after youve been taking it.

Like coke it amuses me the way everyone thinks it makes them sociable and intersting at clubs and parties, but the reality is everyones queueing up for the loo for 3/4 of the night desperate to get there next hit instead of on the dancefloor enjoying themslves.

 

[Safrolette]

Welcome back Dee_dee, haven't seen you on here for a while

Consider yourself very lucky you dont get comedowns from Meph lol.

Meph comedowns are savage and I'm sure it disrupts the brain chemistry for a long time, or maybe I have a very low tolerance to it. Haven't done any - or any other stim - for over six months because I don't have a source anymore. I'm in two mind about the right smiley to add, or :D

London has been flooded with the stuff for the last 3 or so years at least. Just as much chance of it being some kind of closely related compound imo as it is being proper mephedrone, they are all quite similar but the high can vary from being decent to quite poor.

Is meph very popular in London outside the skate, dubstep/bassline and gay scene I thought it was more a Northern phenomenon

...everyones queueing up for the loo for 3/4 of the night desperate to get there next hit instead of on the dancefloor enjoying themslves.

Wouldn't do it in a public place for that reason...

 

[SummerSerenade]

Sorry to hear that about your mate bare head, there is of course a chance real meph wouldn't be great for him either though because it's more than a little bit addictive/dodgy if not used sensibly. I don't mean I don't get a comedown as in I always wake up fresh and full of energy the next day (though that has happened...) but more that I don't have any after effects that are particularly unpleasant - naturally I feel a bit tired and sometimes a little sicky if I overdo it but never more than that unless I drink loads of alcohol as well, but I know my limits now so that doesn't happen.

I've never done meph with anyone else on it at the same time, I've always just bought it for myself so I don't know about the scene or how available it really is - I'm just glad I can get good stuff. It does stink yeah, worst part of it but I'm used to it now and don't even smell it on myself after anymore but I always have a good shower the next day

Can relate to the queuing up for the loo, it's worse with coke though. I generally don't bother anymore and just do a quick sniff with my head down wherever I happen to be. For example, walking down the ramp from Wembley Stadium with 70,000 or whatever other people departing at the same time and police all around. What can I say, I live life on the edge.

I'd say it's good that you've had a nice break Saff, I could do with one no doubt but the problem with meph for me is it's just too cheap and too easy. At least with coke I actually have to make an effort and pay through the nose to get any. Makes it more exciting really and I sure make it last longer.

 

[dee_dee]

Hi Safrolette. I have been busy keeping myself preoccupied doing other things, I hope you are keeping well...

I find meph comedowns are worse if ive been drinking, i try not to take it with great regularity

It does appear to be the drug of choice on Londons gay scene yes, but I have met many str8 people that are taking it too... However saying that, had a nice time on some mdma pills last weekend and me and friends were only saying how nice it was for a change.

I think Meph and related compounds are being taken because its always there, easy to get hold of, cheapish etc.

 

[Safrolette]

I'd say it's good that you've had a nice break Saff, I could do with one no doubt but the problem with meph for me is it's just too cheap and too easy.

Always been hypersensitive to stims and the comedowns hit me hard, never done more than twice a month and that was a lot for me. Got to say, it's ten times worst now that I'm a lady of a certain age and everything seems to throw my system out of balance.
Yeah, it's nice feeling clear-headed again, and above all the mad cravings are slowly but gradually disappearing. I was starting to think that it wasn't going to happen.

 

[Safrolette]

Hi Safrolette. I have been busy keeping myself preoccupied doing other things, I hope you are keeping well...
Meph comedowns are savage...I find its worse if ive been drinking...
It does appear to be the drug of choice on Londons gay scene yes, but I have met many str8 people that are taking it too... However saying that, had a nice time on somel mdma pills last weekend and me and friends were only saying how nice it was for a change. I think Meph and related compounds are being taken because its always there, easy to get hold of, cheapish etc.

I'm not bad overall thanks, bit up and down and too many things to do but suppose that what makes life interesting (...does it...?)
Hope you are good too.
Haven't been looking for meph as the batch I tried a couple of years ago didn't have much in common with the pre-ban quality, I could hardly feel anything at all and the comedown was horrendous. The reports I've been reading on here are not very encouraging either so...
As for most drugs it's all about who you know I suppose.

 

[dee_dee]

Any cravings ive had for stimulants have only been temporary while im on a session, or due to circumstance like finding myself around other people doing it and wanting to join in really. The older i get the more i realise they promise you the earth but those promises are very temporary, just for that moment living in the here and now, when all is said and done and the party is over. Its very real while your having fun doing it though.

Think its probally why I tried crystal meth the once and just had to go back and try it again another couple of times just to make sure i didnt miss anything exciting the first time round. And i can assure you i didnt.

 

[Safrolette]

Any cravings ive had for stimulants have only been temporary while im on a session, or due to circumstance like finding myself around other people doing it and wanting to join in really. The older i get the more i realise they promise you the earth but those promises are very temporary, just for that moment living in the here and now, when all is said and done and the party is over. Its very real while your having fun doing it though.
Think its probally why I tried crystal meth the once and just had to go back and try it again another couple of times just to make sure i didnt miss anything exciting the first time round. And i can assure you i didnt.

It's always interesting to see how the same substance can have a different effect on different people. I've never done drugs very often and never thought of myself as an addict... until I tried mephedrone. Thanks to the harsh comedowns and the impact on my brain functions I managed to limit my usage to once every 6-8, but the cravings were unbearable!
In a way it was useful experience, because it was humbling: now I can understand better how people get hooked on drugs.
Also it has made me realize that I must steer clear of notoriously addictive substances like crystal meth, crack and heroin, because the potential to become an addict is there. "Not even once" then, lol

 

[SummerSerenade]

Always been hypersensitive to stims and the comedowns hit me hard, never done more than twice a month and that was a lot for me. Got to say, it's ten times worst now that I'm a lady of a certain age and everything seems to throw my system out of balance.
Yeah, it's nice feeling clear-headed again, and above all the mad cravings are slowly but gradually disappearing. I was starting to think that it wasn't going to happen.

That's a shame, glad I don't get that, I mean I'm a complete lightweight but at least I don't actually feel bad off meph or coke unless I take stupid amounts. Weirdly I feel worse when I use meph after having a week+ off than I do using consecutive days. Don't know why that would be. I never really crave meph unless I've been drinking but even then it's not uncontrollable, I can see how addictive it could be especially when there's fuck all short term negatives like in my case but I've said it before and I'll say it again, meph isn't the drug I could see myself getting addicted to.

Just found this pic as well so here's my mad saucer eyes for you. Think it's from a few months ago:

NSFW:

Beat that shit.

 

[dee_dee]

It's always interesting to see how the same substance can have a different effect on different people. I've never done drugs very often and never thought of myself as an addict... until I tried mephedrone. Thanks to the harsh comedowns and the impact on my brain functions I managed to limit my usage to once every 6-8, but the cravings were unbearable!
In a way it was useful experience, because it was humbling: now I can understand better how people get hooked on drugs.
Also it has made me realize that I must steer clear of notoriously addictive substances like crystal meth, crack and heroin, because the potential to become an addict is there. "Not even once" then, lol

I think it would of been different had i tried it say, 15 years ago, but not today. I wouldnt let that fool people though, despite me finding it boring there is definitley some kind of gravitational pull with it, i can see it has the potential to suck certain people in. id say its more a case of where im at with myself. I used to love coke, ive bought half a gram in probally about 2 years, probally tried it when offered to me about once in that duration also. Its where my mind is at, im just of the opinion of, "well maybe birthday and christmas", if i can actually be bothered! and if i havent got to run around like a lunatic trying to actually find something thats going to be worth it.

usually by the time an occasion coems round where i feel its justified to do it, ive usually forgotten all about it and not thinking about it, so i dont get round to it. Im happy with that anyway to be honest, theres nothing im missing out on ive not experienced before, ill do what i feel like doing on my own terms nowdays, not because its a part of my life or routine.

 

[Chatative]

ill do what i feel like doing on my own terms nowdays, not because its a part of my life or routine.

That's exactly how I feel & it's a much better state of affairs. Over the years I've moved from taking drugs for the right reasons, to the wrong ones & now hopefully back to the right reasons again.

Or is there just a point for everyone where tolerance stops going up?

I think you need to be doing Meph around 2-3 times a week for a few months before you start to get a tolerance. I was only taking around 2-3g of street Meph until I started using habitually.

Last time I took Meph having not taken drugs for 8 months, I found 1.5g was plenty for a night. I think it was about as close to preban as exists these days.

 

[SummerSerenade]

I think you need to be doing Meph around 2-3 times a week for a few months before you start to get a tolerance

Your point is? Hah, I easily use it that often, not every week but if you average it out then yeah definitely that much and how much I need never seems to go up or down Strange.

 

[Chatative]

Obviously that not every week part is enough of a break to stop it going up too much. I think using on consecutive days / binging tends to put your tolerance up a fair bit.

YMMV, this is talking about the reverse but:

Depends how heavy a user you are and what your tolerance is and, ultimately, your unique biochemistry and reaction to substances.

 

[ponch]

I find tolerance doesnt really change unless you start pushing the doses up your self. I didnt experience any kind of tolerance at all really. I think its something you definitely need to work at over a sustained period of time.

 

[Arousal]

Sounds crazy to me that people do grams of meph in a session. I cant go beyond 0.5g/night without getting too jittery and paranoid. If so benzos are needed.
The last time i had a big meph session: thursday, friday & saturday approx 700-800mg i had brainzaps sunday and definitely in need of a break, big come down.
Tolerance goes up quickly regarding serotonin, the empathy fades away quickly.
But the adrenaline rush and dopamine push are still there every single time and thats why i keep coming back.

 

[Hangover]

I used to do 4g every weekend for like 1 year, now I very rarely do it... did that 5g session about 3 months ago... I have never had brain zaps in my life... and I know I don't get shit meph... wonder why I don't get them lol

 

[ColtDan]

I've never had brain zaps off meph before either. used to do around 500mg/1g a weekend, depending on quality

 

[Chatative]

I'm not sure if they were what you'd class as brain zaps... but I used to get these full body zaps as I was falling asleep sometimes. Only with preban after taking the stuff regularly for a week or two.