EADD Heroin thread v.XXV -- a quarter centuary of threads if not yet a full decade since the 'drought'...

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

Same here, I could huff 20 Crackers in 30 mins & be fine after.
If any fucking "Doctor" or as I call 'em Josef Mengele (Josef Mengele (1911–1979) was a German SS officer and physician at the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration camp, known as the "Angel of Death" (Todesengel) tried to give me N20 & insert God knows what up my arse I'd take his fucking head off.

I went mad at some "Doctor" who inserted one of those nasty 2ml things into my hand before surgery, he butchered me & I shouted at him due to Pain "What the FUCK mate? Jesus wept you do that again we got an issue!!!!!!!"

People in The NHS are literally "Todesengel" & they will ignore your cries, very rare you'll get a Nurse who will actually listen to you & get it.
I'll never forget the Quack who wrote me Morphine right away off his Blue Pad after I had a hole cut into my Arse, he was a good Quack imho.

Ahh, yes, the rare good quack lol. He's in prison now (for reasons that will soon become apparent) but I had a doctor agree to write me a script for amphetamine sulphate offlabel for "overweight" (note: I'm 5'6 and was 9 stone at the time). He never seemed to mind increasing it, either until I was taking (I think) 300mg, 3 x day. But then turns out he was a bad quack as when I turned up to an appointment a few months later (I saw him every 14 days, between) 6 and a half stone and VERY CLEARLY psychotic, he said "yeah, the drug can give some people anxiety, but the weight is staying off" and prescribed me Lorazepam.
I ended up getting sectioned. Good times became BBBBBADD times.
If you've seen Requiem for a Dream, the Sara Goldfarb storyline is pretty much what happened, except I was lucky enough that the doctor on the acute mental health ward recognized what was going on and that I just needed to be off those pills and given some serious nutrition.

Todesengel fits! I think some DO enjoy making it hurt sometimes. Like, there's always that one doctor or nurse who doesn't even try your arm and just wants to stick that (canula?) needle straight in your hand. I don't mind (diabetic neuropathy) but I know it hurts a lot more in the hand.
I hate when they don't take you seriously. I remember when I had to have contrast dye for (an MRI? Some scan) and immediately it BURNED...but, like, it felt like acid and when I shouted out that it burned he said "yeah, it can burn a little sometimes" and when I yelled "NO, IT REALLY BURNS!" he had the nerve to roll his eyes and I had to yell GET THIS OUT OF ME before he then looked panicked and did when I started wheezing. Turns out I'm allergic to the dye. I was so pissed off since I was having potentially a dangerous allergic reaction (I mean, my throat didn't totally close up or anything, but my arm and face were swollen and he DID give me Adrenaline) and his immediate reaction was to assume I was being a little bitch and that it was just a slight burning sensation.

 

[puke]

I also had a colonoscopy not very long ago to remove a pre-cancerous polyp in my colon. They just gave me Entonox and I was absolutely fine on that. In fact I felt so relaxed, and on top of the world afterwards, perhaps because the procedure was so quick, easy, and painless. And I could watch it all on a big screen. I was greatly encouraged by how pink and healthy my colon looked, apart from the polyp! I guess everyone's is like that, until or unless something goes wrong.

I can only presume that your procedure must have been a lot more complicated and painful for you to have needed midazolam and fent. Maybe they just use Entonox for easy cases in the UK, and anything more invasive I guess they'd need to step things up. I'm not sure what country you're in, or if your procedure would have been more invasive.

It obvious we're all getting older on here, with many of us now starting to talk about medical conditions, procedures, and surgeries. It's all down hill from here Although I obviously hope that all of us have as many healthy years remaining as possible. I was lucky to have got this polyp picked whilst being scanned for a different condition. If it hadn't been detected and removed, it would have turned cancerous and infected my colon within 7 years. And by that stage, it might well have been too late to do anything about it, other than the horrors of chemo-therapy etc. All of that has now been avoided from that particular polyp. I'm now trying to eat better, so that hopefully I don't get another one.

Unfortunately you cant just contact the hospitals every year and say that you want to get radiotherapy scanned or CT scanned for cancerous growths. It could save many lives, but would be way too expensive. Plus I gather that the radioactive scans especially can also pose a slight risk of causing cancer, but usually the risk benefit is in favour of the scans, when presenting with known conditions or issues.

Can u feel the wound where they removed it?

 

[Bleaney]

Can u feel the wound where they removed it?

No, I couldn't feel a thing, either at the time, or afterwards. I kept breathing on that Entonox, and I don't know how much that helped. Possibly a great deal, I'm really not sure.

Fortunately the polyp wasn't very far up my back passage, and they used some kind of really clever small device that had what I think was wire, maybe hot wire, on the end of it, and using the device they wrapped the wire around the stem / base of the polyp and just cut through the bottom of the stem with the wire. A moment later it plopped out into a metal dish with a ping! I did not want or ask to see the fucking thing! Good riddance to it!

It turned from pink to a horrible purple blue full of veins, as the wire was wrapped round it, just before the cut.

There wasn't even any bleeding. The guy did a perfect job I'd say. Probably done that 100s or 1000s of times before, which obviously is a good thing to get really experienced people.

They said that the procedure was 100% successful.

I did have the worst upset stomach ever for a short while afterwards though. Which caught me totally by surprise that night in bed.. (I should have read the leaflets they gave me!)

There was no stomach pain, or stomach feeling off, so no warning at all, just severe runny stools. All good after a couple of Loperamides though.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

If you've seen Requiem for a Dream, the Sara Goldfarb storyline is pretty much what happened, except I was lucky enough that the doctor on the acute mental health ward recognized what was going on and that I just needed to be off those pills and given some serious nutrition.

lol


I smoked 99.8% Pure a-PVP for 9 days & went mad too & ended up locked away in a Secure Mental Health Unit.

Todesengel fits!

Got one who's ripe for your ideas @Perkins : Reborn

"Pesthauch weht über's brache Land, süßlich wie faules Fleisch.
Kranke berührt von Schnitters Hand gehen den Gang ins Totenreich
Großes Klagen an jedem Ort, wo der schwarze Tod einkehrt
Kein Gebet schafft ihn hinfort, er hält besetzt das Heim, den Herd."

I hate when they don't take you seriously. I remember when I had to have contrast dye for (an MRI? Some scan) and immediately it BURNED...but, like, it felt like acid and when I shouted out that it burned he said "yeah, it can burn a little sometimes" and when I yelled "NO, IT REALLY BURNS!" he had the nerve to roll his eyes and I had to yell GET THIS OUT OF ME before he then looked panicked and did when I started wheezing. Turns out I'm allergic to the dye. I was so pissed off since I was having potentially a dangerous allergic reaction (I mean, my throat didn't totally close up or anything, but my arm and face were swollen and he DID give me Adrenaline) and his immediate reaction was to assume I was being a little bitch

Should have taken some Legal action against the Cunt

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

If you've seen Requiem for a Dream

You know in the book (Hubert "Cubby" Selby Jr) it's Smack they are chasing after & need, the movie script writer & director felt to show they were Heroin addicts was "too much" & it's way more easy to show Junkies who are addicted to stims than it is to show people messed up in addiction to Opiates.

 

[BadBoy377]

I always thought it seemed a bit ambiguous in the film, it wasn't obvious what substance they were chasing. People have said that it's heroin. But I felt like they seemed to be running around looking for meth.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

But I felt like they seemed to be running around looking for meth.

When they shoot up in the film their pupils in their eyes go huge, you ever seen anyone on any stim have pinned pupils?
I am with you 100% on this one, this was what I came to take from it too.

Hubert Selby Jnr was a famous Opiate addict for over half his life, anyone who knows about the guy would have rolled their eyes at the movie IMHO.

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

You know in the book (Hubert "Cubby" Selby Jr) it's Smack they are chasing after & need, the movie script writer & director felt to show they were Heroin addicts was "too much" & it's way more easy to show Junkies who are addicted to stims than it is to show people messed up in addiction to Opiates.

It's both.
Harry, Marion and Tyrone are all heroin addicts in both, with Sara (the mother) being kind of a totally seperate plot (besides early scenes/chapters with her and Harry). I still think Ellen Burstyn in that role is maybe the best acting I have ever seen.

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

You know in the book (Hubert "Cubby" Selby Jr) it's Smack they are chasing after & need, the movie script writer & director felt to show they were Heroin addicts was "too much" & it's way more easy to show Junkies who are addicted to stims than it is to show people messed up in addiction to Opiates.

Apparently, he even refused opioids on his deathbed when dying of (I think cancer).
If you didn't know, he plays the racist prison guard right at the end of the movie "Goddamn New York dope fiend n******. That it's , mashed potato!"

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

If you didn't know, he plays the racist prison guard right at the end of the movie "Goddamn New York dope fiend n******. That it's , mashed potato!"

I live & learn, I had no idea!!!!!!!

 

[BadBoy377]

When they shoot up in the film their pupils in their eyes go huge, you ever seen anyone on any stim have pinned pupils?
I am with you 100% on this one, this was what I came to take from it too.

Hubert Selby Jnr was a famous Opiate addict for over half his life, anyone who knows about the guy would have rolled their eyes at the movie IMHO.

Yeah, that exact scene was what gave me the clue it was meth.

I have read that in some addicts using high doses can get a paradoxical mydriasis. I think it's generally unlikely though. I've never seen or experienced it.

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

Yeah, that exact scene was what gave me the clue it was meth.

I have read that in some addicts using high doses can get a paradoxical mydriasis. I think it's generally unlikely though. I've never seen or experienced it.

There's no meth in the movie or book.

The three younger characters are Heroin addicts but take Dexamphetamine sometimes, too. Sara is prescribed amphetamine sulphate (the morning, afternoon and evening pills) and an unspecified barbiturate (night time pill) then later Valium when she visits the doctor complaining of "confusion".

RE: pupils - it was my understanding that generally amphetamines = dilated pupils and opioids = restricted "pinpoint" pupils?

Mine don't really seem to change? Like, I never noticed larger pupils on amphetamines and I've never had tiny pupils on any amount of opioid (although my pupils do get MASSIVE in opioid withdrawal). I do have one pupil bigger than the other, though, so maybe mine are just weird.

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

^this is based on a combo of the movie and the book, where they're described as "dropping Dexxies" in their coffee for energy/high

 

[puke]

No, I couldn't feel a thing, either at the time, or afterwards. I kept breathing on that Entonox, and I don't know how much that helped. Possibly a great deal, I'm really not sure.

Fortunately the polyp wasn't very far up my back passage, and they used some kind of really clever small device that had what I think was wire, maybe hot wire, on the end of it, and using the device they wrapped the wire around the stem / base of the polyp and just cut through the bottom of the stem with the wire. A moment later it plopped out into a metal dish with a ping! I did not want or ask to see the fucking thing! Good riddance to it!

It turned from pink to a horrible purple blue full of veins, as the wire was wrapped round it, just before the cut.

There wasn't even any bleeding. The guy did a perfect job I'd say. Probably done that 100s or 1000s of times before, which obviously is a good thing to get really experienced people.

They said that the procedure was 100% successful.

I did have the worst upset stomach ever for a short while afterwards though. Which caught me totally by surprise that night in bed.. (I should have read the leaflets they gave me!)

There was no stomach pain, or stomach feeling off, so no warning at all, just severe runny stools. All good after a couple of Loperamides though.

That's good, I always assumed it hurts while going #2.

 

[Bleaney]

That's good, I always assumed it hurts while going #2.

I guess it might if you're unfortunate enough to develop fully blown, irreversible, terminal, colon cancer.

But the pre-cancerous polyp wasn't causing me any bother that I noticed.

 

[BadBoy377]

There's no meth in the movie or book.

The three younger characters are Heroin addicts but take Dexamphetamine sometimes, too. Sara is prescribed amphetamine sulphate (the morning, afternoon and evening pills) and an unspecified barbiturate (night time pill) then later Valium when she visits the doctor complaining of "confusion".

RE: pupils - it was my understanding that generally amphetamines = dilated pupils and opioids = restricted "pinpoint" pupils?

Mine don't really seem to change? Like, I never noticed larger pupils on amphetamines and I've never had tiny pupils on any amount of opioid (although my pupils do get MASSIVE in opioid withdrawal). I do have one pupil bigger than the other, though, so maybe mine are just weird.

Well that was just my interpretation of it because of the scene with the close up pupillary dilation (post injection if I remember right). Doesn't seem to fit with opiate use.

If you've never experienced mydriasis from stimulants you either haven't taken a big enough dose or you're possibly getting compensatory constriction from another substance eg opiates. It is possible to use stimulants without getting huge dilated pupils but once your flying those pupils will be huge.

Either way it's a tremendous work of art and I'll get round to reading the book one day.

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

Well that was just my interpretation of it because of the scene with the close up pupillary dilation (post injection if I remember right). Doesn't seem to fit with opiate use.

If you've never experienced mydriasis from stimulants you either haven't taken a big enough dose or you're possibly getting compensatory constriction from another substance eg opiates. It is possible to use stimulants without getting huge dilated pupils but once your flying those pupils will be huge.

Either way it's a tremendous work of art and I'll get round to reading the book one day.

I also love the book, although I DO think it's one of only two cases where I actually prefer the movie (I just realized that the other case is The Exorcist, also starring Ellen Burstyn).

Maybe not a big enough dose? Mostly I've experience with amphetamine sulphate and (I think this is the name) 3,4-Fluorophenmetrazine, but I have a history of anorexia, so while the energy and eurphoria were great bonuses, I took them mostly so I wouldn't wanna eat. I was taking about a gram of ~80% purity amphetamine sulphate at a couple points, though.
It may be a case with other stims that I've just not happened to check my eyes while on them due to less frequent use?
Coke I've IV'd a few dozen times and snorted a handful of times...smoked in crack form twice.
Then stuff I only tried a couple times like Methylphenidate, Ethylphenidate, 4-FluoroMethylphenidate, Phentermine, Phendimetrazine, Clenbuterol, Ephedrine (I assume Caffeine and Pseudoephedrine would be too weak to do anything?). I can't think of any others right now. I've tested positive for Meth twice but never knowingly taken it. I assume there was some in with my regular amphetamine somehow, although I just learned that Sertraline can cause a false positive for Meth.

I THINK I was on Methadone (and sometimes Heroin) during those uses.

 

[Bleaney]

Either way it's a tremendous work of art and I'll get round to reading the book one day.

Yeah totally engrossing and incredibly powerful imo. The ending was heart breaking, especially with that awesome soundtrack on top. I listened to so many different versions and remixes of that piece of music, some of them are very dark and sinister sounding, but all of them are fantastic.

 

[BadBoy377]

Exorcist is an amazing film and still stands up today.

Well, you know with drugs, it's always YMWV.

I can smoke a bit of meth to get me going with no pupillary dilation but definitely stimulated or push it until I'm properly spun and my eyes are like saucers. There's no hiding it.

That's the general way it works but there will always be exceptions.

 

[Bleaney]

Exorcist is an amazing film and still stands up today.

I thought we were talking about Requiem For a Dream?