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EADD Heroin thread v.XXIV -- welcome back, PinkPapaver!

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It's my mates payday & like usual his done me some dark till I get paid in a few days.

The last score I had the gear wasn't that great at all even though it ran clean & was "scabby" it didn't have any potency to it, my mate rolled up at the yard just gone 10.30 & he was off his nut on white, I had a small crank of white that was nice but nothing amazing & he was going on about how he had a crank of this new gear yesterday & was on the nod for hours which built up my hopes this bag would be good. I tossed it on the plate & could tell right away from the first line it was nice, I am sitting here about to go sign on & I am quite fucked up, I got a real itch on atm & still have a good 2/3rd of the bag left (it is quite big too)

The gear was really light in colour but had a smell to it like it used to be back in the day before the famous drought, this stuff is really banging & I cannot wait to go score on my pay day, the bonus is too with these Pakistan lot I score off 99% of the time they buy so much they have the same stuff in for weeks at a time, this stuff I swear down is the best gear I have had in several months.

LOL while I was doing this message I just got a text off another guy I know saying"Damn Mr Z you tried the gear off b today? It's banging mate just watch it if you have a crank though" that says it all imo.
If anyone else lives close to me (West Mids) just watch out as the stuff that was around a few days ago was weak as dishwater, this stuff is quite a different beast, keep safe folks.

Have a good day people, just keep safe out there atm. This stuff isn't a joke I can tell you that much!!!!!!
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
^ Mr.Bandit, posts like this almost make me want to do it again because I feel as though I'm missing out.

Damn you and your drug porn...
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It was nice, very nice if I am honest. I am waiting for some more as I sit here now waiting for the text to move my arse.
It didn't collect that much on the tooter for some reason but that matters not in the long run of things.

I swore when I got clean I was never going to do any gear again but I am slipping a bit, next week will be the real test when I have enough cash to go on a bender for a few days if I feel like it though I really want to get some decent e-juice, coffee & a treat for this blind dog I know as I feel so sorry for the animal & we have a bond & understanding now it seems. I'm quite sure the owner thinks I am only interested in the dog to try & impress her & get in her pants when that is so far from the truth but she is a typical woman & must think all men are only after one thing, I'm 100% ONLY interested in being kind to her dog & NO interest in her.

TBH even if I wanted to go with her the potency of this gear I'd not be able to finish off anyway ;)
 
How much is supposed to be in a bag? Is that equivalent to what Germans call 'bubbles' (yes, the English word) namely .125 or thereabouts?

I found a new guy recently after a month of different disastrous people who ripped me off badly or were great but could never be contacted again, and he did really well by me & seems stable. I'm not sure how it works in the UK, but here it seems like all the guys in my city usually have the same batch? Very little variation. Though most don't seem to cut stuff much, at least.

Anyone have tips on how to smoke it & get effects? Why do stims work but not weed/h?

I IMed some micron filtered h & wasn't impressed. It was very sedating, didn't seem to help as much with my pain as much as using the same amount nasally would, and the spot I hit on my ass twinged on & off for 2-3wks though I can't see any sign of an abscess or feel any lumps. I've IMed morphine (from my last extractions) with basically no cut (there was definitely some in the h, the micron filter doesn't get it out usually), and those stop twingeing after 5 days. Any time I IM it's stuff too acidic to use nasally so it could ve the acid that's the problem not cuts. It burns VERY badly, most unpleasant IM ever, worse than any vaccine even.

Going to try a chloroform extraction/purification with what I still have left, and possibly try smoking some if anyone has advice. I wonder if smoking pure(ified) h is less wasteful? Tbh smoking always looked very wasteful to me.
 
Ever heard of Wir Kinder Vom Bahnhof Zoo / We Children From Bahnhof Zoo fairnymph?

How much is supposed to be in a bag? Is that equivalent to what Germans call 'bubbles' (yes, the English word) namely .125 or thereabouts?
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Really depends in my experience where & who you score off. I usually try to only go to a small few group of people that are all Pakistan or Afghans as they have the best stuff by far & their bags are nearly always decent quality. Before the drought over here some years I could pick up 0.2/0.3 for 10 pounds & what they called "half gram" for 15 but when tossed onto the mg scales they weighed around 0.4 in the rizla. If I am stuck at it is anything after 10pm I have to go to the blacks & their gear is usually shit (they have the BEST crack though) & you will get "half bags" I've never tossed one onto the sclaes as I Would fear to, they are small & usually full of "red dread"

Doesn't Germany give out legal scripts now & have medical grade morphine in shooting rooms?
I'm personaly not a fan of the stuff myself as it feels "too clean" in my experience, it is like being given Pepsi when what you really want is Coca-Cola.
 
Never heard of that zoo but I HATE zoos. I can't bear to see animals in cages. Wow so prices are cheaper there, I already knew that but damn, we pay almost double - I can hope our stuff is less cut, at least. I've only found Afghani stuff once, it was definitely the purest I've found over here, and at a good price for here. Unfortunately most dealers here are Turkish & I don't like their stuff as much. The Russians get good stuff, better than average. No idea where my new stuff is coming from though it seems stronger so I'd guess maybe a Russian. Haven't done much crack but the best I had was from black guys in the US.

No, there are no legal h scripts here for pain. IIRC, there is a small experimental program for long term addicts who get pure diamorphine. But not for people like me with no record who are using it for pain - I'd surely lose my diazepam & hydromorphone scripts. And I REALLY need my diazepam especially. But I have had pure h before, that my late husband made, & I definitely prefer it to street. Street is too sedating & clearly contains other opiates from the feel of it. That dark Afghani stuff I got one time was almost not worth it due to how sedating it was. Madd me even more useless than usual.

I definitely am not interested in morphine as it makes my pain worse.
 
If you use for pain I must say I apologise to you, I assumed you were in the same boat as people like me.
I'd never looked upon you as some bag-rat though may I add.

I've never heard of hydromorphone, what does it feel like? They not been trying to get you on Fent?

I'm not massive into the crack like some I know IRL who smoke god knows how many rocks a day (sadly they tend to go mad) but I will say a nice shot of crack is one of the best things ever, an old friend used to swear the best thing ever was shooting crack with Midazolam (the access he had to Midazolam / Versed replaced his opiate use) but God knows what the withdrawl off that stuff would be like :(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midazolam
 
Ohhh THAT zoo. I was staying in a hotel walking distance from there last October & I would have totally tried to score. It was my first time in Berlin since I was 9. My family is from SW Germany & I live in central-NW Germany so Amsterdam is half the distance to Berlin from me, & unfortunately sitting upright is extremely painful for me so trains are torture. Even Paris is closer than Berlin!

I've never seen anything but brown #3 here. Some lighter, some darker, most speckled. The lighter stuff is usually a lot more cut. So I don't think I've had proper Russian h, at least not here.

No need to apologise, though I kinda WISH I were a recreational addict. Though then it would probably make it lot harder to take breaks to keep my tolerance down. But at least I would enjoy the effects rather than disliking them for the most part.

Hydromorphone is my 2nd fave or 2nd to least disliked opiate, after h. I've only done it nasally & orally. It is the strongest available opiate here (oxymorphone isn't available, though I hope to try it one day), & has minimal side effects for me - other stuff is too weak, or has bad side effects. It feels a lot like nasal h to me but weaker & slightly more sedating. I don't get euphoria from opiates so I can't comment on that. Opioids don't work well for my pain & have horrible side effects, but I will say fentanyl is the least bad one I've tried. I've mostly only had it IV as part of general anaesthesia during surgery. But I just remembered I tried it nasally when my pain first started getting worse, & I really wasn't impressed. They've tried putting me on all kinds of things, but mostly back in the US. Once it was clear even hydromorphone isn't strong enough there's no point trying anything else, unless they release/make available new meds.

I've shot coke but not crack. Is there really a difference? What do you disdolve the crack in to shoot it? I didn't care for crack or coke (except IV as a rare/experimental treat) before, but now as a long term h user, I finď smoking crack/freebase much more appealing. There seems to be some synergy. I have an ampoule of midazolam I'm saving for a special occasion - had it almost 15yrs so I don't know when that will be! It's only enough for one dose, sadly. My late husband had IV midazolam for surgery & he said it was amazing. He didn't find benzos recreational, either.

My preferred recreational drugs are meth, ketamine & LSD. I only use speed occasionally now though, usually for function not fun (to counteract fatigue & lack of motivation). I loved MDMA but lost the magic really fast.
 
Squeaky said:
Theres a reason H and needles go hand-in-hand. 2x as high for 1/2 the price.....
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Thats so stupid and dangerous sure it might be 2xs AT FIRST but then after youve started shooting it all day it will barely make you normal no disrespect squeaky but I think its important to point this out, I know people who have been on it for 20+ years and as bas as they have got on it they and their circle don't shoot because nothing good comes out of it i mean theres a reason needle heads can't go back to smoking or sniffing even after they cut their last vein on their dick.
 
I've only done coke a very small few times fairnymph, it was ok but not my kinda thing really. The times I've had weight of it I've always washed it up.
Shooting crack IMO is about as much pleasure that the human body & brain can register, it comes on slow & smooth & builds from there till your jaw goes tight & pleasure waves vibrate through your skull as a rapid rate, you float down too with no rough edges if you only do a small bit, if you carry on though you'll be rough & need a huge dose of gear to make all the rough edges smooth =D

Decent crack will cook up so easy, I'm not sure how much I am allowed on here to say how you go about it as I bet some idiot will read my advice & go shoot a whole 20 shot then fall over dead & I'll be to blame for telling them how to do it. Take my word though it is a gift from God him/herself. I'd even go as far as to say it is only equal to smoking MDPV in a meth pipe.

Ketamine I agree with you is also quite something, I used to love that stuff when I had access to it & would do a lot of it MXE also.
 
Yeah coke really isn't my thing. IV crack sounds just like IV coke. I don't see how there would be a difference in effects though. I know how to make crack, but I make freebase (since I'm a proper chemist), and it's not water soluble. So how can it be IVed?

Never tried MDPV. Didn't like MXE.

I take it you haven't tried meth?
 
I just nodded and had a brief dream of me chocking in my sleep eithsr slight sleep paralysis or the poppy seed tea i must admit the poppy seed are not as euphoric as i hoped maybe because i had some codeine before, can codeine ceiling effect poppy pop tea
 
fairnymph said:
(since I'm a proper chemist)
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My heart just skipped a beat.....my god I bet the things you could make could keep me up at night.
Alexander Shulgin can take a backseat =D

Didn't like MXE.
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Your not the first I have heard say that, I saw a few people that liked K alot more & found MXE weird. I personally loved it myself.

I take it you haven't tried meth?
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Nope, I have heard it's just like really potent speed & speed isn't a DOC for me.
The only stims I have ever found any use in this order were MDPV (without question it is my desert island drug) coke & then MDA (MDMA just makes me act weird, for some reason MDA works alot better for me, most of my mates were rolling around on the floor trying to catch roll ups in the air & weird shit or shouting about fish in the carpet though.
 
LOL, I'm no Shulgin, though I've hung out with him a few times. I'm a lot more interested in mental health/psychiatry (as well as pain & life extension) than developing new recreational drugs, & I'm not a big fan of tryptamines. My husband tho, he was a runner up. Of course one needs a lab to & access to precursors to do many synths.

I can't remember why I didn't like it. I actually had forgotten I'd tried but in an old PM I said I didn't, & I wouldn't lie.

Meth is to speed as MDMA is to meth. Actually meth is more similar to MDA for many. Unfortunately I have a horrible reaction to MDA. All 3 times (2? were pills sold as MDMA). I would like to try MDPV.
 
Pete556 said:
Thats so stupid and dangerous sure it might be 2xs AT FIRST but then after youve started shooting it all day it will barely make you normal no disrespect squeaky but I think its important to point this out, I know people who have been on it for 20+ years and as bas as they have got on it they and their circle don't shoot because nothing good comes out of it i mean theres a reason needle heads can't go back to smoking or sniffing even after they cut their last vein on their dick.
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I didnt mean that it is a good way to live, just that its more high for the money. Everyone I have ever known who used needles had a pretty miserable life in the long run. The needle starts out as a good way to get more bang for your buck, and ends with a life not worth living.
 
Squeaky said:
I didnt mean that it is a good way to live, just that its more high for the money. Everyone I have ever known who used needles had a pretty miserable life in the long run. The needle starts out as a good way to get more bang for your buck, and ends with a life not worth living.
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The intrinsic problems with switching to intravenous R.O.A. is that you're switching from a B.A. of ~50% for smoking, snorting ~45% and oral ~35% to 100% for IV administration. Once the user has experienced such a huge increase in B.A.and "bang for their buck" from I.V., it's always going to be hard to switch back again to a more ineffective R.O A.

Once the pandoras box of IV administration has been opened up it's going to be very hard for the user to put that genie back into the bottle.
 
Not to say that IV use isn't generally a bad idea, but I occasionally IV things & it's had zero negative effects on me. It probably helps that the only drug I actually enjoy via IV is coke, and it's too short lived & toxic for me to want to do except on rare occasions. Anyway, I'm at least 1 case of a non life destroyed IV user. I've IVed a dozen people who haven't done it again, but that's a bit different.
 
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