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EADD Heroin discussion v.20 -- You've come a long way baby

kkattastic said:
I saw a short series a few years ago,about a group of people going through detox5. The ones that had been just using gear were through their rattle in a week,but the methadone user was just starting their rattle by then.The show didn't follow any further than that.
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I saw that show as well. What annoyed me was that while the heroin patients were puking their guts up and the methadone patients was relatively OK (about 2 days in or so). Instead of recognising that the methadone patient's WDs hadn't started yet they seemed to be congratulating her and implying "see we told you it wouldn't be bad". When really her WDs would only really kick in when she left. I'm not sure how a system like that would work for methadone...unless in was inpatient for at least a couple of months.
 
pinkpapaver said:
detox five sounds like a big rip off to me. englandz do you come across many heroin over doses? get the naloxone out boy/?
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I read that detox5 has a really poor success rate.they don't follow up to see how many people stay clean.it is very expensive so most are there paid for by family-no addict can afford it.And you are right,how can it work for someone trying to get off meth as it only lasts 5 days.you are supposed to be sedated for those 5 days but they didn't look very sedated to me.
a 3 month rehab might work,but using my experiences in prison as an example,I would imagine a whole year is needed to change the mind set of the user
 
englandgz74 said:
Yes lots. Naloxone is only any good if you catch it straight away. Unless there's someone there to raise the alarm most just go to sleep and never wake up
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My bro worked as a cleaner at a hospital and he has some stories, I bet you seen some shit man, what's the most disturbing thing you have seen drug wise?
 
Dark Side said:
My bro worked as a cleaner at a hospital and he has some stories, I bet you seen some shit man, what's the most disturbing thing you have seen drug wise?
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It's difficult to say really...anytime someone ends up dead (despite best efforts) it's pretty disturbing.

The most disturbing thing is seeing the effect it has on the family who are left.

Finding someone who has been dead for a while is pretty nasty..you need a strong stomach for that one.
 
You must see some horrific sights in your job Englandgz, don't think that I would have the stomach for it myself.
On the plus side though, how many of us can go to work and save someones life?
What a fantastic thing to be able to do. I can't imagine how great it must feel to finish a shift and know that you have saved somebodys life and yet on the other hand you have to somehow manage your emotions when you witness someone lose their life and the grief of their loved ones.
Being a paramedic has gotta be one hell of a tough job mate but believe me we are all so grateful that we have good people like yourself to help us & our loved ones in time of need.
 
First time scoring the other night - thanks K drought. Got some weird ass black tar...I guess? At first I was so annoyed because I thought I'd been fucked over - looked like a piece of charcoal.

It was hard as fuck - heat wouldn't break it down, it wouldn't dissolve in water. Used a sharp knife, but that only rarely scraped off tiny bits. So being the naive and desperate fucker I am, I decided to hit it in my pipe, because it wasn't doing shit on the foil. Amazingly enough, I was pretty nicely buzzed off of it. On the dregs now, but it's lasted 4 days of nearly every few hours use. Don't want it again, but it was fucking weird how I hadn't been scammed completely. Sure it was impure dope, and if I was an addict with a tolerance I'd have been furious with the quality.

Just wanted to know if anyone else has come across such resilient dope, that looks like this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Heroin_black_tar.jpg

It was more black than that, but did have the distinctive sparkling white pieces. I dread to think what the cut was or what I was doing wrong, but my lungs have felt fine. Any HR advice would be welcome. Can heroin be so goddamned hard that it's like an actual stone?!
 
^^^^ could have been some old stale opium - that goes hard, but will smoke after a fashion. Doesnt sound like tar unless again it had been sat around for a long time.
 
Dark Side said:
My bro worked as a cleaner at a hospital and he has some stories, I bet you seen some shit man, what's the most disturbing thing you have seen drug wise?
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I think the most disturbing things that I have seen is the russians doing krokodil and the after effects
very nasty.you would have to have a hell of a habit to lead to doing that
 
speedk i have never seen anything like tht b4. it looks like fucking cole your right about that. 6 or 7 years ago i had some gear that looked like canabis resin a bit like squidgy black, it wasnt super potent but it smoked on the foil and of average strength. Man by looking at your shit id think id of been fucked too, but if u felt sumet off it, it must have been H of some sort either really weirdly cut or a fucked up synth of tar H probs. My guess anyway. Im still getting good ATM pretty fukin good actually.
 
I've also had the gear that looks like squidgy black cannabis years ago. I remember thinking what the fuck is this, but i would have been injecting at the time and i remember it did cook up but i can't recall if it was any good or not. Never seen it again since then
 
Been doing gear a long time but last year was probably best year for consistently good good gear ever. Most times gear is ffing average at best but we do it cos were junkies and put up with shit stuff.
But quality went way up last year round here (W. london) and even better the price dropped by 33%.
£45 is now £30
 
Where I live in Cambs the quality of gear is very good from the few people I buy from.
I usually choose to buy from a couple of guys who travel in each day from a nearby city and there gear is that bit better with constant sizes & quality. For these guys it is a business as they don't use anything themselves.
Most of the local dealers who live in the town are addicts themselves so I generally don't find them as reliable as those just doing it as a business.
Must say though that it's great knowing that whenever I score it is gonna be good gear again unlike in the aftermath of the drought when quality was always hit & miss.
 
another hlaf hour i can go ask tht fat lazy nurse cam i have my subutex. 48hours without opiates. "i cant understand why u need another dose of lofexidine" she said. i sweaar to fuck there will be murder cue welcome to jamrock
 
Tryptamite said:
another hlaf hour i can go ask tht fat lazy nurse cam i have my subutex. 48hours without opiates. "i cant understand why u need another dose of lofexidine" she said. i sweaar to fuck there will be murder cue welcome to jamrock
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got my subs 4 mg oral bout 1.5-2mg intranasal. i farted in the office. she complained so i got up and left. should have given my the proper fose of immodium when i asked, tough potatoes fatso. has she ever heard of opiate WDs? how are these agency nurses so lazy and stupid???? iN UK
 
Is #4 common in the UK? I've only ever found #3, though bought some #4 from outside the UK a month ago and it was way way stronger than any #3 i've ever had smoked or otherwise, made my heart race at 100mph too so I imagine it must have been cut with a certain amount of caffiene.
 
maxalfie said:
but believe me we are all so grateful that we have good people like yourself to help us & our loved ones in time of need.
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So, so true my friend. I owe my life to guys like Englandgz74. They truly are the unsung heroes of the NHS. Everyone goes on about 'doctors & nurses', but these guys are on the front line and make a real difference between someone living or dying before they even get to the 'doctors & nurses'. Not that I'm belittling the role of other health professionals, but paramedics are totally awesome.
 
Literally a case of the needle and the damage done. I said I would never ever get to Femoral vein injecting....and here I sit waiting to go to A&E with an abscess that hasn't responded (they never do with me) to antibiotics. I am in absolute agony.

I know I'm going to be put under, which is something i'm terrified of, as it always takes them a lot to get me to sleep, and for some reason they chose to do it in the operating theatre last time, first abscess they didn't, and because the gas wasn't working, I started to panic. Hopefully this time, they'll work out my doseage required properly.

So....next time I pop my head in here i'll be abscess and heroin free, as i've been doing well ish past few months, apart from the seem to do well, then huge relapse happens that lasts three weeks, I lose about a stone, then clear myself up and settle back on my script...stay okay for a month, then repeat relapse. That's not happened yet in 2015, and I'm hoping they'll keep me in hospital this time as it's going to be a delicate operation on my groin so even more time to get clean and stablise on my meth!
 
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