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EADD Heroin discussion v.20 -- You've come a long way baby

So have you been mainly taking H and taking green pretty irregularly?

If that's the case then the horrible protracted green WDs may not be quite as bad.

Just a suggestion but if you could get a couple of 8mg subutex strips you could do a pretty pain free taper from that and I bet it wouldn't be too bad at all.

My pain doc has me on opiate rotation but mainly methadone pills due to their NMDA agonist properties and ability to help with nerve pain. I'm currently tapering off as after my last surgery my pain is so much better but sometimes I wish I was on MST or oxy or something cos I would just book a week off work, get a decent supply of diazepam saved up from my script and withing 7-10 days it would be over...cold turkey ...bam!!

But due to being on 180mg of meth for such a long period of time it's gonna be a horrible rough ride of a taper....

As the song goes....."there may be trouble ahead......" hahaha!!

Good luck mate :)
 
you too. thats a good idea, take oxy or mst as you lower your dose, when youre hooked on only the short acting fellas, taper a bit till youre on maybe 400mg oral morphine a day, get a week off and just go to bed with loads of benzos and books and sweat, kick and cry....can you get black market meds?
 
smackydowners said:
can you get black market meds?
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That's the thing.....I can't. Only what I'm prescribed (nor would I even if I could). While you and I may appreciate the wisdom of tapering down then moving on to shorter half-life drugs and then just dropping them CT...try convincing a GP of that!!

They just read in their NICE guidelines that "methadone or subutex are to be used for taper purposes until a satisfactory low dose is reached then the drugs are discontinued....."

They won't even consider any sort of outside the box thinking. It's a shame but there you go.

Besides, even if I could locate black market stuff I wouldn't anyway due to my job. If I was caught I'd be finished. My plan is to taper either down to zero with the meth using very small increments at the end..like 0.5 or even 0.25mg at a time once I get close to zero (I think a lot of people suffer unnecessarily because they keep the same size of drop even at the end - while 2mg is nothing off 60mg but 2mg off 10mg is a much bigger jump in terms of how much you would feel it. People seem obsessed with getting to the end as quick a possible once they get to a certain point whereas if the increments are small enough then it's possible for the process to be pain free. It just takes a lot, lot longer......and I'm in now hurry after being prescribed pain meds for nearly 20 years.

Either than or switch to bupe when I get to around 30-40mg and taper off that......we'll see :)
 
smackydowners said:
well the nhs is your friend at least. ive never had any tretment so instead of paying a script, ive gotta get bashed up gear at a tenner a go. i dont want a record as a drug user as i plan on a career in the nhs
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Good idea then not to mention drug use to your GP. While they can't implicitly tell your employers it's just better not to have that on your record.

It's bad enough having on your record that you have a legitimate pain killer script (you're treat the same as if it was illegal by some quaters within the NHS).

What sort of NHS career (or can't you say)?
 
Hey man that's no problem I understand.

Everyone here knows what I do for a living but I don't take anything illegal or break any laws so it's different. Plus I'm here mainly to spread the harm reduction message and the only way I can successfully do that is if people know what I do as it lends (at least some) credibility.

If you want to PM me at all with anything you want to know re. working in the NHS please feel free as I've worked in it for almost 15 years.

Take care mate :)
 
years back,i was on methadone and booked in for an inpatient detox.a week before i went in,I intentionally stopped using any methadone and just used gear.when i was admitted,i told them this and said i didn't want to do a meth rattle,so they put me on DFs instead and reduced them accordingly.much easier rattle
I saw a short series a few years ago,about a group of people going through detox5. The ones that had been just using gear were through their rattle in a week,but the methadone user was just starting their rattle by then.The show didn't follow any further than that.
Personally,life has been great since I been on MSTs.I don't crave gear at all and they give me the pain relief that i need.Never had so much money and felt so well,in terms of my habit.
 
Craving gear for some strange reason.

Been seeing a lot of discarded wax paper bags in Manchester recently, never seen H sold that way here before.
Anyone else noticed this?
 
Ha. It didn't call loud enough in the end. I don't know much about football but there's definitely more scoring to be had on the streets of Aston and Small Heath than in the stadiums.

Has been a long time since I've been to Aston mind..
 
ScotchMist said:
Really struggling fighting the urge to score at the minute.. Small Heath is a ' calling me... :\
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Congratulations ScotchM for resisiting the urge, i know how powerful it can be once the thought of scoring gets into your head. So well done on fighting the urge and winning. Can't say the same myself. I was quite happy doing stuff on my laptop today and not even thinking about gear until i received a text "On at 12.30,best of both". Well once i had read the text then all i could do was think about scoring and sure enough within 30mins i was sat back at home with 3 x £15 bags of gear.
Thought i may as well make the most of it so had 10mg diazepam and 2 x etiz and now am as relaxed as a man can be but also skint.
 
good gear round my way again. i love that pins n needles feeling. tho i havent felt it in a while, till recently again anyway. am i right in thinkin thats high morphine content gear that does it. if u have a real big 1 ive had red blotches after aswell. histamine release ftw
 
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