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EADD Heroin Discussion Nininininineteen [19] (I wasn't really sure what was going on)

Just picked up a hen - different from the stuff thats been about for a while, this one is brown and harder rocks and stronger - difficult to quantify but I would say if the other was about 40% this is 45. Had about .15 at work and had to leave early as was droopy eyed at work and was getting near impossible to keep it together - thats after a day off so tollerance wont have been effected.
So it seems its definitely a 2 tier system now 10-15% at 'old' prices and proper kit alot more , I now Im paying over the odds at 220 but where as that would normally last 3 days it now lasts a week so its the same really, if you see what i mean.
 
Sorry i havnt posted since my big whinge the other week, dont really feel any different but on a lighter note the bits ive been picking up have been pretty strong (all bagz tho - havnt had any weight since xmas week and that was £160 for the 8th). Ive been scoring twice a week or so but otherwise still getting by on cwe - 2 x 220mg a day have been holding back most of the withdrawls but i need to try and get into a routine where im doing one on a nightime and start reducing it from there. main problem has been agititation but i have a nice stock of diclazepam which helps a bit but while im reasonably impressed with the effects compared to pharm benzos they only seem to work in moderatley large amounts (8-10mg per dose) and rapid tolerance is a real issue so I have to be as sparing with them as possible. If I manage to stick to my guns I could be opiate free by the end of next week but as Ive stated in previous posts - what then? No freinds, no job, no motivation etc. I just wish I had the money to be a full time bag head as im sure that in time nature will take its course and solve everyones problems for them
 
Glitched asked the following question a few days ago (my response is underneath):

"On a side note, I have been playing around with how I smoke my gear lately and wondering what you guys think. I'm my mind there are two ways here. 1, run in gently and try to get as many lines / runs as you can. 2, burn it harshly in small bits or small runs and get an intense and strong smoke in your lungs. What do people find better. I've got my opinion but don't want to influence what people say (I'm not saying I'm right but if people haven't really tried it deliberately both ways then maybe they could and report back without my saying this and that in their head). So well, what do you think.... Same gear, same amount, smoked differently, what, if any, difference do you get?"

Good question! When I first started doing gear in the early 80's, I didn't have a clue how to run it into lines, so I'd just split a £5 bag into 3 or 4 small piles, load one on the foil and just basically frazzle it in one go. I found this to be very effective at the time and as a lone user, I had no-one to teach me how to do it 'properly'. It wasn't until much later that I learnt how to run my gear and adopted that method as the norm - though this was largely from a desire to make my gear last as long as possible rather than finding the effects to be superior. In fact, I've always thought that frazzling a pile gave me a bigger hit than running it, even if it was wasteful to a certain extent. However, I've never tried my old method again so it's hard to make a comparison as I now have tolerance to take into account. I suppose the advantages of running gear are that it's less wasteful and easier to titrate your dose as theoretically it's easier to 'go over' if you're taking a large hit in one go than it is by slowly running it in. Another reason I switched to running was that in the 90's, a lot of gear round my way was cut with something very sickly which necessitated running a couple of lines off before you started smoking it, just to get rid of the cut - otherwise projectile vomiting would ensue!
 
Well hello there BC007 me auld pal! :) And hello to Irish Dubliner too! :) How are you two doing?! Its great to hear from yous, even better to hear good news for a change.

I haven't been scoring at all really, I scored once or twice over Christmas, but besides that, I've been keeping my head down for the last few months now. Firstly I got sick of the "OK" gear, it had gotten to the stage were "OK" gear was considered rocket fuel, so I just lost heart in the whole thing... :( Secondly, cash flow, my Boyfriend has had his money cut right back, so we haven't had any spare cash whatsoever. In the past that wouldn't have stopped me from scoring, I'd go without eating so I could score, but with the gear only being "OK," I found it kind'a easier to stay away. I still have crazy cravings, but I was sick of been disappointed every-time I scored....

But its very encouraging hear that the two of you got good gear! :) I know that the two of yous know the difference between Crap Gear, OK gear, and Great Gear!!! :) So, if yous say its good, then its good! YAY! :) Its is also encouraging to hear that Irish Dub scored the good gear in North Dublin, and BC007 scored in South Dublin, this would imply that there is a large amount of this gear going around! Halleluiah!!! :)

I'm due in the clinic tomorrow, before I stopped using I would have normally scored the very second I stepped out of the clinic. But I'm so fecken broke, UMMMmmm.... my mind is working over time here, there is always a way....

Although, I haven't heard for any of the people who I score off, they would normally tell me if they got a new batch in. In saying that, I haven't been in contact with any of them in ages, I didn't reply to any of the texts that I got off dealers before Christmas, coz I wasn't using, so I was trying to avoid all temptation... So, I reckon they have given up on me.

Its about time that there was a decent improvement. The quality of the gear in Dublin was a lot better in the last year compared to the crap that was around straight after the drought, but it still wasn't anywhere as good as the gear we used to get. The taste of proper heroin is so strong, when I smoke a line of good gear it makes me gag (strangely, somehow gagging in a good way!) and then it sends a shiver through my body. But I haven't gotten that real strong taste from gear since before the drought.

My mind is in conflict now, I'm thinking "score tomorrow," "don't score tomorrow!" "Score tomorrow!" "Don't score tomorrow!" A~ahhhhhhhhh.......!!! Does it ever stop??? Knowing my luck I'll ring someone and they'll tell me they have rocket fuel, but they will be lying! I find it so hard to trust dealers after all the lies they've told me in the last three years. How long have yous been getting this good stuff? I wonder have many dealers in Dublin got it yet?

Anyway, great to hear from you both, and its great to see everyone else on the thread too. I haven't been on Bluelight in ages, coz I didn't want any triggers. But I'm glad I had a peep tonight! I hope everyone is keeping well! :)
 
Picked up .4 for 25 nice white fluffy stuff. Having a few toots on the train down south. Nice strong Rush and feeling lush off .1 get the feeling price won't normally be at it the geeza had no idea it was top.

Was not expecting it to be so good. Also can now get teenths (so?) Of good stuff, not at lush as what im havin now but not far off. Not sure of price but around 110 which ain't bad.

But then 8th is 220 of other stuff, its still all trial and error with weight at the most, that why sticking to bags or small weight ie measure .4
 
Evening all,

So I used to be a hardcore oxy user, my supply is dead, so I've switched to heroin. Probably not the smartest of moves, but, that's life.

I know a really well connected dealer in London that normally hooks me up with most illegal drugs, so I asked him if he had a heroin connect, and voila! I'm only snorting it at the moment, tied tooting it and wasted an absolute shitload.

But, the stuff I'm getting is apparently from Afghanistan, it costs £100 for a g, maybe a bit over, but fuck me... I was overwhelmed. I'm used to high doses of oxy, over a gram, and a small line of this had me nodding in and out of consciousness literally. He says it's 70-80%, I don't know, but it's a really light brown colour, hard rock that is crushed down into a sandy like texture... The euphoria is intense. I can't imagine what this would be like IVed... I probably should stop thinking about that too.
 
Evening all,

So I used to be a hardcore oxy user, my supply is dead, so I've switched to heroin. Probably not the smartest of moves, but, that's life.

I know a really well connected dealer in London that normally hooks me up with most illegal drugs, they are always expensive, but it's always the purest shit I've ever found in terms of cocaine, MDMA, speed and just has the nicest blends of weed... I asked him if he had a heroin connect, and voila! I'm only snorting it at the moment, tied tooting it and wasted an absolute shitload.

But, the stuff I'm getting is apparently from Afghanistan, it costs £100 for a g, maybe a bit over, but fuck me... I was overwhelmed. I'm used to high doses of oxy, over a gram, and a small line of this had me nodding in and out of consciousness literally. He says it's 70-80%, I don't know, but it's a really light brown colour, hard rock that is crushed down into a sandy like texture... The euphoria is intense. I can't imagine what this would be like IVed... I probably should stop thinking about that too.

My dealer said that the guy who I was picking up from was really paranoid about new people, I had to wait for a good half our while I guess he was scoping me out. Both of them were warning me to take it easy on it, the guy I picked it up from was even hesitant to sell me it to start with...

Tastes bitter, when burned the smoke smells sweetish, but I can't catch it which is infuriating... I need someone to teach me the correct technique!
 
Make a chisel-tipped tooter (search posts by me, I remember explaining it in a long-ago incarnation of this thread). Hold it at an angle of 45 degrees with the long point down and the aperture upwards, so the smoke travels up and over the end, into the tube. Light your lighter and bring it up under the foil. Start to inhale as soon as the gear melts. Draw the foil away from yourself as you tilt it towards yourself, so the lighter and the tube stay in place and the beetle runs towards you. Let go of the trigger on the lighter just before your lungs are full up; then depress it again without lightng it, so as to spray unburned gas onto the underside of the foil -- this will help to cool the beetle and solidify it more quickly. Stop to turn corners, at least until you become proficient.
 
Hi all.
Scored another garden (an 1/8th) this evening from the same source but it was different. It's not bad but it's not as good as the stuff he had for the last week or 2. It's nearly the same colour & rocky but there's not much taste of it on the foil. The really good stuff didn't last long at all. Only a week or two. He says he's sure that things will be alot better from now on but I wont hold my breath.
I can't believe that things still haven't got back to normal since 2010. It's over 3 years now. I've been on the gear for 16 years or so now & I never saw a drought like the one we had.

BTW, did anyone else have any trouble logging in to BL tonight?
It wouldn't let me log in for ages. It just kept bringing me back to the log in page.
 
BC007 said:
Hi all.
Scored another garden (an 1/8th) this evening from the same source but it was different. It's not bad but it's not as good as the stuff he had for the last week or 2. It's nearly the same colour & rocky but there's not much taste of it on the foil. The really good stuff didn't last long at all. Only a week or two. He says he's sure that things will be alot better from now on but I wont hold my breath.
I can't believe that things still haven't got back to normal since 2010. It's over 3 years now. I've been on the gear for 16 years or so now & I never saw a drought like the one we had.

BTW, did anyone else have any trouble logging in to BL tonight?
It wouldn't let me log in for ages. It just kept bringing me back to the log in page.
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yeah I had trouble because I was passed out on the kitchen floor due to GBL and couldn't reach the keyboard )
 
less immigrants more jobs!




pinkyp, when you get the head rushes - dont fight it, youre risking blacking out - just immediately point your head to the floor, or even just lower it to chest level. looks a bit daft, aye, but fixes it right quick (i used to fight it as well, could be to do with the associated lack of food along with the smack, though i believe all depressants do in fact lower blood pressure, could be wrong on that - but heroin definitely does
 
BC007 said:
Hi all.
Scored another garden (an 1/8th) this evening from the same source but it was different. It's not bad but it's not as good as the stuff he had for the last week or 2. It's nearly the same colour & rocky but there's not much taste of it on the foil. The really good stuff didn't last long at all. Only a week or two. He says he's sure that things will be alot better from now on but I wont hold my breath.
I can't believe that things still haven't got back to normal since 2010. It's over 3 years now. I've been on the gear for 16 years or so now & I never saw a drought like the one we had
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get used to it, one of the more plausible of predictions mooted mid drought was that things would in fact never (at least in the sense of the average addict's life expectancy) - return to how they were, and would rather descend into a malaise of poorer quality gear nationwide and a regular, staccato swing between times of slightly better vs slightly worse quality - pockmarked with less severe droughts every once in a while. alas, that seems a depressingly accurate description of exactly the situation we find ourselves in



a little bird tells me the good gear midlands way is very light tan in colour, cooks up fairly clean and hits with a rush when slammed. the poorer grade stuff is darker, cooks up dirty and provides no discernable rush in the pin. though as per the above-mentioned pattern, this delineation will likely soon disappear into a mix of grey powder, that will be utterly grey in every sense of the word
 
Wouldn't say there is ever a problem of getting decent gear, but finding weight can still be an issue. But I would say being able to get really lush stuff can be bit hardly normally restricted to opcouple of people.

So when they are not about then at ler other folks who still have good tackle. And of course plenty below that selling utter garbage.
 
The point of 'chasing the dragon' is so that you vapourise the gear and not burn it - i would have thought if you just put down a hits worth and heat it your far more likely to burn it .

@wcote you said that you got a rush from smoking? can't say I have ever got a rush that way, one of the reasons people fix is to get the rush of .2 or what ever straight in to the blood, hitting the brain in 5-7 seconds .

Re horrible taste - back in the 80's when the gear was pure from Iran you had to take a drag of a ciggie like a smoking chaser cos the taste was so strong it would make you gag.
 
blondin said:
The point of 'chasing the dragon' is so that you vapourise the gear and not burn it - i would have thought if you just put down a hits worth and heat it your far more likely to burn it .

@wcote you said that you got a rush from smoking? can't say I have ever got a rush that way, one of the reasons people fix is to get the rush of .2 or what ever straight in to the blood, hitting the brain in 5-7 seconds .

Re horrible taste - back in the 80's when the gear was pure from Iran you had to take a drag of a ciggie like a smoking chaser cos the taste was so strong it would make you gag.
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Yeah, you're correct about the vaping/burning argument, which is why chasing is more economical, but sometimes it's just bloody hard work trying to get enough in your system quickly enough - especially when you're rattling.

I agree about the strong taste to 80s gear - very gaggy. But the stuff round here for most of the 90's was even bloody worse. Although it was strong, there was a horrible cut in it that left at least 2 lines of thick black crusty residue on the foil and gave off plumes of sickly sweet smoke that smelled of burnt sugar and made you retch if you didn't get yer face out the way in time. It was a nightmare to do in yer car!
 
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I can certainly relate to the great gear before the drought having a very strong taste to it. In those days I always used to carry a pack of mints around with me just so I could get rid of the gear taste after a toot.
Before I quit using I didn't need mints anymore as the gear just wasn't the same quality. No idea what it is like around here now but folk are still buying it.
 
Hiya PinkPapaver :)

Thought Villa did well to hold Liverpool away. Was more drawn to the Blues than the Villa when I was in Birmingham, but there is no shame in putting two past the 'Pool and that should never have been a penalty, it would have been 2-1 to Villa.
 
@ blondin, I find heroin gives me a nice rush, perhaps not in the same way as IV.

I'm quite hyper when im on gear. Now you might think that I must be getting shit gear, but trust me im a bit weird.

You must also remember I smoke gear with a pipe and gauze. Which gives you a much better hit than foil.......... Now I know you can very easily burn the gear and waste it, but I have got the technique completely sorted. And as I have said on here before, I learnt this from a couple of 35 - 40 year olds, who used to IV, then stopped but found foil was a bit rubbish, so they started using pipes and gauze as it gives a much better hit. BUT its all in the technique. One big thing is the flame must barely touch the gear for more than a split second. its not like smoking crack:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know people on here will still disaprove and say its all a waste, but until you try it properly you have no idea.
 
....be interested to hear the 'pipe' method - is the gear resting on ash? have smoked DMT like his and its really hasrd not to burn as that has a lowere boiling point
 
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