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EADD - Conspiracy Megathread - MONEY+POWER+SICKNESS=

Has anyone noticed how the bbc talk about "so called isis" and "apparent beheadings". Why do they use this strange language? There's a lot more/ less to the Lee Rigby "beheading" than we have been lead to believe.

The media lie to the people constantly, that is not a surprise. What is a surprise is that while knowing that the media tell lies people believe so much of the sensationalist shit that they spew and use it to form their view of the world.

Politicians are greedy liars, and people know that yet folk still go out and vote for them and give them power.
 
Well I'm a politicised cunt, and you should stick a cross in a box that doesn't involve the Tories or UKIP. Don't let any of them get in by lazy default apathy. :p ;)
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Surprised no-one's yet mentioned the MMR vaccine bullshit spread by that Andrew Wakefield cunt. i'm amazed that so many parents decided to not get their children vaccinated against these diseases just because some idiot found a non existent link between the vaccine and autism. it's totally beyond my comprehension....
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I had my kids vaccinated.
If I had more I'd do it again.
However, I look after people with autism for a living and have done for nearly 20 years. When you read the case histories the parents sometimes ( I almost used the word often, but its not 'often' but often enough for me to have noticed IYKWIM ) do point the finger at the MMR.
Maybe its because at that age the number of milestones missed becomes increasingly obvious, or maybe sometimes it is just too much for a small body to handle.


Even so I agree with you that getting the jab is the wise thing to do. If there is a link the odds of a bad reaction are low enough to risk it imo.
 
Democracy only encourages mediocrity. The Westminster system allows for members to exist who do nothing to enhance society, rather their goal is to simply appeal to just over half of a small population pool. All men are not created equal. In an ideal utopia we may all be born and given the chance to develop into better people, but reality is if you take a random sample of 100 people, I'd probably only trust 20 of them to look after my children for more than a day.

Great dynasty's throughout history were built around the ruling class being the smartest and best. Sure it was a genetic lottery to be born into this system, but at least you were afforded the best education from the greatest minds. By giving every person an equal vote, society is being dragged done by the common denominator. It might not sit well in many people's mouths to accept that someone else is better at making decisions in how society is run. At the very least I'd prefer some sort of examination of worthiness before you are allowed to vote. Idiots and dickheads shouldn't be allowed to drag us down. In an ideal world we would hand pick the smartest and most creative, and train them to become leaders. If there needs to be a vote on something at least only allow those with some sort of credentials.

If you are a staunch supporter of democracy you cannot be against vaccines. By not vaccinating your child you are essentially saying that your child is worth more than the rest of society. The chances of an adverse reaction to a vaccine is less than one percent, far less than the chance of catching such horrible diseases 60 years ago. My wife's two uncles both died of polio and my own father lost three class mates to the disease. The fact that none of you have witnessed such a horrible disease is because of vaccinations. At some stage you have to accept that for the common good of society your genetically inferior offspring may be better being sacrificed.

If big Pharma has a strong conspiracy they are doing a piss poor job of it as the planets population continues to soar and life expectancy increases every year. Corruption will almost always exist when such services are corporatised, but the alternative such as increasing taxes to pay for scientific research and development is never popular. Once again, the majority of knuckle draggers deciding what is good for society and pulling us towards mediocrity.
 
LOL @ Busty; you old conservative fucking dinosaur. I don't believe you actually believe all that.

F.U.B.A.R. said:
Felix, You forgot to include the SNP =D:p

(voting for some cunt you don't want in power to stop some other cunt getting in power is not a logical tactic as far as i'm concerned)
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As far as I'm aware, you won't have the SNP on your ballet ticket. Not this year anyway. ;)

Voting for the least-worst option makes complete logical sense to me and is better than not getting off your lazy arse.
 
As far as the mmr argument was concerned it was little to do with wakefield and more the fact that new labour had got in a job lot of mmr in and didn't want to allow people to go for the precautionary principle and have single jabs spaced out over time. I guess they argued (in their secret panels) that the plebs would just forget the second or third jabs cos they were gambling or something - it's that sort of superiority and lack of empathy for the 'lower orders' that democracy is supposed to guard against. Without the democracy bringing the tone down we end up with people electing themselves as everyone else's superiors because they're a dentist or something - hopefully when that happens, us angry thicko mob can pop round their house with our democratic pitchforks and give them some accountability ;)
 
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^ Don't be naive. She was kidnapped by the CIA then sold into white slavery to the Zeta Reticulans in exchange for the soul of every human being born on the day she supposedly died. You're such a fukkin sheeple sometimes, Felix :\

felix said:
Well I'm a politicised cunt, and you should stick a cross in a box that doesn't involve the Tories or UKIP. Don't let any of them get in by lazy default apathy. :p ;)
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I very much disagree. Not compromising a strongly held belief that the entire system is corrupt by voting for "anybody but *insert party of greatest personal displeasure here*" is the best way to prop up that very system in my view. By giving credence and validity to something you have no faith in whatsoever simply to try to ease the pain of a Tory government (or Labour or Lib Dem or...) is like voting to drink diarrhoea rather than eat shit cos at least it'll go down a bit easier however unpleasant it is. I'd rather not eat shit of any form so will not support a system that is fundamentally flawed and corrupt. It only encourages them anyway.

Give me a political option that I genuinely would support and I'll support it. This is a luxory of living in Scotland, perhaps. I'll be an honourary Sock soon enough and maybe I'll cast my first vote around the same time. With the options I have available to me it's mostly a "least shitty bag o' shite" kinda deal which is not a deal worth taking part in in my opinion. Although I must admit I've become more inclined to cast an actual vote for the Greens these last few years as they've become somewhat less flaky and sometimes put forward candidates who don't wear sandals all year round.
 
Felix: But that's just what they want you to think...;)

Seriously though, i agree with your earlier characterisation of the uk establishment's focus on the snp as a conspiracy - just a more visible manifestation of the ongoing conspiracy of media control by a tiny elite; it seems the scottish have had the scales fallen from their eyes about the current nature of the bbc and the MSM after the referendum and are seeing it much clearer than most southerners.

However i agree with fubar (and brand (and shambles :))) that there's little point in voting - the system is corrupt from top to bottom and the corruption is so deeply embedded that getting people to see it is like asking a fish what the sea looks like (eg see this monbiot article). A major part of the problem is the media and its control of how people think - without liberating that the voting is meaningless (democracy only works with complete information).

Saying that though if i were to vote (and i might cos of my mp is nice) i'd choose any one of SNP, green or plaid cymru - these three have pledged against austerity which is the big emperor's new clothes issue of the day (there's plenty of money if you nationalise a bank or two (oh, we already have, but are pretneding we haven't)). There's a conspiracy for you: neo-classical economics...
 
Shambles said:
Give me a political option that I genuinely would support and I'll support it. This is a luxury of living in Scotland, perhaps.
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Precisely (and what you said, Vurtual), and I dunno why I even bother encouraging you lot to vote. I do appreciate and realise how disenfranchised and hopeless you must feel down south at the moment. But I still urge you all to put a cross in a box that doesn't prop up the evil people. Us up north are relying on you to do the decent thing for the benefit of us all, not just for Scotland.

BTW Monbiot said that not voting for Scottish independence was to commit harm to the country, or something like that. I pretty much agree with everything he writes. :)

edit: "Scots voting no to independence would be an astonishing act of self-harm"
 
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Vurtual said:
As far as the mmr argument was concerned it was little to do with wakefield and more the fact that new labour had got in a job lot of mmr in and didn't want to allow people to go for the precautionary principle and have single jabs spaced out over time. I guess they argued (in their secret panels) that the plebs would just forget the second or third jabs cos they were gambling or something - it's that sort of superiority and lack of empathy for the 'lower orders' that democracy is supposed to guard against. Without the democracy bringing the tone down we end up with people electing themselves as everyone else's superiors because they're a dentist or something - hopefully when that happens, us angry thicko mob can pop round their house with our democratic pitchforks and give them some accountability ;)
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We have a selection criteria for all our other education tiers. The medical schools choose those members who they belief are best fit to become doctors. Ditto engineering schools. Unless you have a good grasp of mathematics no one is allowing you to build the next bridge. Why not have a school for leaders selected by experts in the field of leading. I am not talking politics here either, politicians are only concerned with popularity and appeasing the masses. Leadership, especially of a nation or an entire society requires strong decisions that, while not perfect, are required for society to excel forward. The best economists rarely work in the treasury, the best architects and engineers are only briefly consulted when it comes to infrastructure. People worry about a new world order and a single central controlling government like it is the worst thing in the world, yet if the United Nations was truly independent and driven for the common good of all there would be no time for politics. If they right people are leading I know I would be happy to simply live my life.

Food, shelter, health and education for all is a pretty basic building block for a happy society. Rather than out sourcing humanities science and research it makes sense to fund and direct it internally. Of course human nature and it's associated pride and greed are more of a hurdle than voter apathy in the current system.
 
I tend to agree with what you're saying OTW, except that having other people choose our leaders for us is open to even more abuse than the current system. I do think however that the general public are largely not well enough informed to vote wisely (i'm a case in point here which is why I choose not to vote). Unfortunately, human nature being what it is means that the type of person who wants to attain a position of power is usually NOT the best person for the job as they are largely self serving, egotistical and very rarely have the best interests of the country at the top of their list of priorities.
 
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