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EADD - Conspiracy Megathread - MONEY+POWER+SICKNESS=

blondin

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When you have politicians, police and the press in cahoots you can keep the lid on almost anything or as in the case of 9/11 kill off over 100 scientists, engineers etc who dissproved most of the National commision report. Don't think that the real power involved in running this world is democratic , with live in a corporcracy where money and power is revered above all else- and has been this way for 100's of years..keeping blood lines 'clean' - look at our own royal family to Victoria with 1stt cousins marrying and the mentally harmed offspring, that sometimes result , swept under the carpet.
All the pedos coming to light are dead - funny that with a few live lower down the food chain chucked in to look good.
MONEY+POWER+SICKNESS= AN INCREASING URGE FOR MORE OBSCENE GRAIFICATION.

Maybe we ought to start a 'conspiracy thread' as I know there are a few of us who have done an awful lot of research into surpressed and alternate views to what the MSN pump out every day.
 
me too great idea. i've lost too much time watching and reading about conspiracy theories. Some are way out there but some are quite believable and have great evidence to back up the theories.
 
You're preaching to the choir, Blondin. I can't think of much to add except for a Scottish viewpoint:

Everything you read or hear about the SNP at the moment is part of a conspiracy built by the Establishment designed to strike fear into the hearts of all poor, working class people in every country in the Union. Everything the SNP do or say is twisted in such a manner as to make them out to be enemies of the state, when it's actually the reverse that is true.

The SNP are the vanguard of real, genuine, democratic change in the UK, and the established parties in Westminster will stop at nothing to discredit them. What they don't realise is that it's too late. They're all filling their pockets while they can, because they know their time is up.

The GE in May is going to be a seismic event in the UK, no matter which country you live in. The rise of UKIP is a smokescreen; designed to make non-thinkers think they're the voice of the people. They're just as much a part of the Establishment as the Tories and Labour, and only care about big business and their expenses on the Westminster/EU gravy train.

I can't fucking wait till May the 7th.
 
Here's to hoping there can be a shake up to the status quo this May. Always a bit tetchy about getting hopes up with anything to do with politics these days after last September though. :\
 
Anyone who is in the least surprised by the idea that some people who manage to get a taste of money and power end up letting it go to their heads and misusing it for their own ends, please PM me. I have details of several beachfront properties in Staffordshire (where they make the bull terriers, don't you know) in which you may be interested, at a price which reflects the vendor's preference for a timely sale.

But if you're trying to tell me that "Big Pharma" is suppressing cures for diseases just so they can continue getting fat on the profits to be made from treating the symptoms, or "Big Energy" is holding back perpetual motion machines and everlasting light bulbs, or that the moon landings were faked, then you're going to need some pretty solid evidence. Because you can't get around basic biology, the First Law of Thermodynamics or simple economics that easily. Sure there are some vicious b******s at the top. But that doesn't necessarily mean they are withholding anything that someone else could invent independently. And actually getting to the moon for real would be less effort in the long term than pretending convincingly to have done so. All the wishful thinking in the world isn't going to change the fact that sometimes, the big guy can be in the right.
 
There's plenty of evidence for 'big pharma' doing nefarious things - just read some ben goldacre

I wrote this book because we need to fix a set of problems that have been allowed to persist in my own profession – medicine – for far too long. Trial results can be withheld from doctors and patients, quite legally; trials are often poorly designed, or biased towards the sponsor’s product; doctors are misled about which treatments work best; and so on. These problems have a real impact on patient care, because we don’t have the information we need to choose the most effective treatments for patients. Often, we tolerate actively misleading information.

Less hiding cures than hiding evidence of harm in their products. Then have a look at SV40 in polio vaccines, the efficacy of statins, the latest whistleblowers in the vaccine industry (more), or even the now crumbling dominance of the cholesterol-heart disease theory (though more to do with 'big sugar').
 
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Vaccines are difficult because there is an attitude of 'questioning vaccines = moon landing denial' when there is plenty of research to at least question aspects of how it's done, and evidence of corruption in the vaccine authorities including supression of research (in uk and us). The second vaccine link i gave above has some food for thought.

My sister was permanently mentally 'handicapped' (as they called it then) through the whooping cough injection - to some of the scientists involved in mass vaccinations, her experience is just anecdotal and so not worth anything - they judge 'over the whole population there is herd immunity, so a few deformed people's ok'; this is logical as far as it goes (though still inhuman), but there is evidence emerging which starts to question the herd immunity concept (see link). The whooping cough injection was a known 'bad batch' which might have been known about among the wider population, but for the cozy secret relationships between government and vaccine manufacturers - while this goes on (and it still does), the authority of their proncouncements must be questioned (or at least their priorities).

This problem is complicated by many of the loudest anti-vaccination people baing flaky and putting out misleading articles - and so the baby is thrown out with the bathwater - this is the same in most conspiracies (eg 9/11): real conspiracies are discredited by association with the lunatic fringe. This happens so often that i can't believe it's not controlled and utilised in some way (ooh, a meta-conspiracy!).
 
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion, whether you agree with it or not.

Precisely. Which is why I expressed mine.

Have you noticed people only ever say 'everybody's entitled to their own opinion' right after somebody's just voiced their opinion? :D

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Shit thread.
 
I'm not saying that "Big Pharma" is squeaky-clean. But there's a world of difference between underestimating the potential harm associated with a drug (which is pretty much to be expected anyway; and you're still better off than if you had died of the disease the drug was curing) and concealing cures (which doesn't work anyway, because anyone else could invent the same thing independently).

Also, an unvaccinated child is a biological weapon. My kids' right not to catch preventable diseases trumps your right to believe fashionable bullshit.
 
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Julie: Did you read about william thompson in that link? or the stuff in this one? I'm no expert and haven't checked his references, but have you got any evidence to disprove what's in there? (that's not rhetorical btw)

Knowing my sister was permanently disabled by a flawed vaccine that was passed by the authorities isn't bullshit. After this happened my parents wouldn't let us have the vaccine and our doctor stood up for them under quite a bit of pressure - would you have given it to your other kids in that scenario? We were all fine and no whooping cough outbreaks happened. First do no harm.

This is what that link has about the recent pertussis (whooping cough) vaccine (whether a recent outbreak was related to vaccine take-up):

...Dr. Anne Schuchat from the CDC has stated, “We know there are places around the country where there are large numbers of people we aren’t vaccinated. However, we don’t think those exemptors are driving this current wave. We think it is a bad thing that people aren’t getting vaccinated or exempting, but we cannot blame this wave on that phenomenon.”[19] What Americans need to know is that more virulent strains of B. pertussis have emerged that are not covered by current DpT vaccines. Earlier, Australian immunologists suggested that the emergence of a new vaccine-resistant B. pertussis strain may be due to over vaccination. What the world is witnessing with antibiotic resistant organisms, due to the over use and abuse of antibiotic medications, is similarly occurring with viruses targeted by vaccines.

Quote about thompson:

Dr. Thompson, who co-authored and published research on vaccine thimerosal mercury—still included in some vaccines [not in uk afaik], especially the influenza vaccine—has admitted he was part of the CDC’s conspiracy to obscure scientific evidence proving thimerosal and the MMR vaccine as causal factors for autism. During an interview on the Autism Media Channel, he stated that he would never give his pregnant wife a flu shot because of its high concentration of mercury. “I don’t know why they still give it to pregnant women,” Dr. Thompson stated. “That’s the last person I would give mercury to.”[1] After reviewing some of the CDC data received by Dr. Thompson, as well as data records acquired through freedom of information submissions, Prof. Hooker discovered that the CDC has known since 2001 that children exposed to thimerosal in utero were 800 percent more likely to regress into autism. This data was intentionally excluded from the CDC paper published in the journal Pediatrics in an effort to disprove a thimerosal-autism association. During the radio broadcast, Prof. Hooker unearthed evidence that the CDC has known for a decade that children receiving the MMR vaccines on schedule were nearly 300 percent more likely to regress into autism compared to children whose parents decided to withhold the vaccine until after the child was older.
 
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Its a shit thread cos i started it right sammy? you really are a funny little man. A thread could be considered shit if the posts are shit so lets see what appears before passing judgement....awaits 'hilarious' riposte.

Three biggest money earners - oil,big pharma, 'war' or as its called defence. Anyone know the % of people who take pills everyday to stay well? Cures dont make money, its naive to think that big pharma are altruistic organisations they are businesses trying to make money - inventing illnesses to pidgeon hole people and then sell them drugs; AIDS has them laughing all the way to the bank - makes them billions, its a massive topic which i will try and refine down to a page or so when i get some time. BUT there are so any other things we ought to be more aware of chemtrails anyone?
 
Its a shit thread cos i started it right sammy?

No. It's just a shit thread. There are plenty of conspiracy fora out there, not to mention the fact this overlaps with at least a couple of existing threads anyhow. You mention 'pedos' (sic) early on in your post - there's a thread for that, isn't there? You also type partly in caps, which is highly unsettling.

But if you must, knock yerselves out:

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Fairynuff! But why is it a 'shit thread'? (In your opinion). In my opinion 'gibberings' is actually the shittest thread on eadd.

Vague, nebulous and highly speculative. At least Gibberings has some social value.
 
For anyone who wants a good conspiracy read, but on the (slightly) more credible side, try the unauthorised biography of george bush. This is slightly old now and it's still slightly wacky (coming from the lyndon larouche camp) but the references are checkable. For entertainment value as part of the genre it's pretty good (though long), but it also has some real good stuff in it (eg bush family's nazi links, drug dealing, eugenics, omaha paedo scandal, plus accepted conspiracies like iran-contra) - but you need to double-check the references.
 
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OK so i should have checked before regurgitating links - but that william thompson vaccine whistleblower information might be a bit flaky according to this link (noone else checked and pulled me up on it either (you failed the test, grasshopper ;))

I'm still sceptical about the vaccine industry; not particularly about the theory as much as the sort of priorities these secretive bodies might have (x number of deformed people < y people who may get the disease without vaccination) - maybe if more people were aware of the fact that they could be the one in the one in 100,000 and what that might mean, they might not agree that was a price worth paying, and more effort might be made to create safer vaccines; whereas if the bad results are kept secret by governments because otherwise people might stop taking vaccines (which we know has happened, eg with the bad pertussis vaccine my sister had) it doesn't engender much trust in the authorities to make these decisions - how many other things are covered up in this way for our own good?
 
Surprised no-one's yet mentioned the MMR vaccine bullshit spread by that Andrew Wakefield cunt. i'm amazed that so many parents decided to not get their children vaccinated against these diseases just because some idiot found a non existent link between the vaccine and autism. it's totally beyond my comprehension....
 
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