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I'm looking into setting up a bitcoin wallet, is there anything to lose by just grabbing the regular bitcoin client? Disc space is a non-issue, and I can just leave it crunching the download while I'm out at lectures. I'm not looking into hanging onto any particularly large sum of BTC, just getting and spending. I'd prefer to have the wallet on my comp than on an online service if it won't significantly inconvenience me to do so, but if online is really the way to go that's fine.
 
SquidInSunglasses said:
I'm looking into setting up a bitcoin wallet, is there anything to lose by just grabbing the regular bitcoin client? Disc space is a non-issue, and I can just leave it crunching the download while I'm out at lectures. I'm not looking into hanging onto any particularly large sum of BTC, just getting and spending. I'd prefer to have the wallet on my comp than on an online service if it won't significantly inconvenience me to do so, but if online is really the way to go that's fine.
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I'd send Sid a message and speak to him. He has all that kind of thing down pat i think.
 
consumer said:
Ok here is the Wired article on the aussie guy who may be the original creator of bitcoin. It's an interesting read.

Wired article on Bitcoin possible Bitcoin creator

News report on the raid on his home which happened a few days after the Wired article was published but is apparently unconnected.

News article on police raid on Craig Wrights home

I cant find the article debunking the claim that Craig Wright is Satoshi. I will look later.
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Forgive me if I'm wrong but that first article reeks of Hansel and Gretel to me.

What would the mass media jump on more than the notion of crytocurrency inception being the work of a lone computer genius just as eccentric as he is intelligent?
The central powers of BTC (oh the irony of such in the quintessential decentralised market) are likely to be aware of the "fall guy" notion that even a child could comprehend and are more than capable of executing it.

The first evidence pointing to Wright appeared in mid-November, when an anonymous source close to Wright began leaking documents
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John Doe claiming they are "close to" the mysterious identity provides specific documents suggesting Wright as creator for no reason.

immediately led to several direct, publicly visible connections between Nakamoto and Wright
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The leaks establish links visible in the public domain.
One is which is an archived copy of a deleted blog post: "That ... was later replaced with the rather cryptic text “Bitcoin – AKA bloody nosey you be…It does always surprise me how at times the best place to hide [is] right in the open.”
May as well be waving a flag reading "Guys, look over here!".

In response to a media email acknowledging the perfectly manicured and organised trail of breadcrumbs as being followed: "the people in Panama are exteremly [sic] good and do not violate people’s desired privacy".
A mentally deficient puppy wouldn't be stupid enough to give away their location so easily, never mind an autodidact academic being sought by the FBI.

“You seem to know a few things. More than you should.” - yes, you're on the right track you inquisitive scamps you! Foiled, gosh darn it.

"comparisons of different archived versions of the three smoking gun posts from Wright’s blog show that he did edit all three—to insert evidence of his bitcoin history".
Not exactly fitting the modus operandi of a cryptographer, is it?

"Some of the clues added to his blog were made more than 20 months ago" - you mean as in the period of time that SR's iterations were seized and the lamb stole ~$40,000,000 leading to even more intense scrutiny of the dark web? The time when it'd be a pretty good idea to cover tracks and lay decoys?

"he’s even peppered Twitter with hints (Though he also deleted many of those earlier this month and made his tweets private)".
Gaining and retaining global attention through unencrypted social media in such a way that wouldn't be out of place in a pubescent attention seeking teenager?
Doesn't really bode well for the cryptoking with a 9 figure fortune, does it?
 
Sprout said:
Forgive me if I'm wrong but that first article reeks of Hansel and Gretel to me.

What would the mass media jump on more than the notion of crytocurrency inception being the work of a lone computer genius just as eccentric as he is intelligent?
The central powers of BTC (oh the irony of such in the quintessential decentralised market) are likely to be aware of the "fall guy" notion that even a child could comprehend and are more than capable of executing it.


John Doe claiming they are "close to" the mysterious identity provides specific documents suggesting Wright as creator for no reason.


The leaks establish links visible in the public domain.
One is which is an archived copy of a deleted blog post: "That ... was later replaced with the rather cryptic text “Bitcoin – AKA bloody nosey you be…It does always surprise me how at times the best place to hide [is] right in the open.”
May as well be waving a flag reading "Guys, look over here!".

In response to a media email acknowledging the perfectly manicured and organised trail of breadcrumbs as being followed: "the people in Panama are exteremly [sic] good and do not violate people’s desired privacy".
A mentally deficient puppy wouldn't be stupid enough to give away their location so easily, never mind an autodidact academic being sought by the FBI.

“You seem to know a few things. More than you should.” - yes, you're on the right track you inquisitive scamps you! Foiled, gosh darn it.

"comparisons of different archived versions of the three smoking gun posts from Wright’s blog show that he did edit all three—to insert evidence of his bitcoin history".
Not exactly fitting the modus operandi of a cryptographer, is it?

"Some of the clues added to his blog were made more than 20 months ago" - you mean as in the period of time that SR's iterations were seized and the lamb stole ~$40,000,000 leading to even more intense scrutiny of the dark web? The time when it'd be a pretty good idea to cover tracks and lay decoys?

"he’s even peppered Twitter with hints (Though he also deleted many of those earlier this month and made his tweets private)".
Gaining and retaining global attention through unencrypted social media in such a way that wouldn't be out of place in a pubescent attention seeking teenager?
Doesn't really bode well for the cryptoking with a 9 figure fortune, does it?
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Oh i agree Sprout. I dont think its him and i am still trying to find the article that really debunked the claims. I was posting more because Evey was asking who created Bitcoin......and well nobody knows. It may be this guy but i doubt it.
 
SquidInSunglasses said:
I'm looking into setting up abitcoin wallet, is there anything to lose by just grabbing the regular bitcoin client? Disc space is a non-issue, and I can just leave it crunching the download while I'm out at lectures. I'm not looking into hanging onto any particularly large sum of BTC, just getting and spending. I'd prefer to have the wallet on my comp than on an online service if it won't significantly inconvenience me to do so, but if online is really the way to go that's fine.
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On phone so ill keep it short.
The client is the way to go, make sure to keep a copy of the wallet.dat file on a seperate drive in case your main drive fails. The wallet.dat has your btc so protect it, if someone else gets that file they can take everything.
 
consumer said:
How do you actually buy the bitcoins? Do you use a credit card ( i imagine that would leave a trail) or pay cash via money transfers or bank transfers...all these methods would leave behind a trail wouldn't they?
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There's various options, including with cash deposits which is probably as close as you can come to anonymous, and leaves no paper trail.
 
I have been tempted to give the dark net a go just to sample some of the different LSD that is available as there appears to be a lot of high quality acid on the sites i have looked at and acid is easily the safest thing to send through the post. Maybe one day i will give it a go.
 
Ive bought em allsorts of ways. If your paro using bank transfers you can tumble the coins. Basically get new ones for commission.

As for acid, i grabbed a few a while back just cos I could, hehe, the stealth on them was top notch.
 
Same as i remembered them from many years ago. 165ug wasn't bad so maybe slightly underdosed as i dropped an e about 5 hours into it.
Defo the real deal.
 
There is very high quality acid online yes. 100 tabs for £120 115ug and it's so clean there's no body load/back tension etc off then I've read, something that does unsettle the trip I find.

For your purposes an external hard drive/cold storage is absolutely pointless if your just going to spend on the markets, then use localbitcoins and just send it directly. For small buys tumblers aren't necessary either.

A VPN and PGP are bare minimums definitely.

When you start to see some professional operators you realise there isn't much to worry about ordering anything domestically. EU wide the same so long as the vendor isn't a moron. There is practice already established as to how things should be sealed, decoys employed, printed labels/fake company logos etc. it's 2016 some of these guys have probably been doing this 10 years by now.
 
Sid said:
There is very high quality acid online yes. 100 tabs for £120 115ug and it's so clean there's no body load/back tension etc off then I've read, something that does unsettle the trip I find.

For your purposes an external hard drive/cold storage is absolutely pointless if your just going to spend on the markets, then use localbitcoins and just send it directly. For small buys tumblers aren't necessary either.

A VPN and PGP are bare minimums definitely.

When you start to see some professional operators you realise there isn't much to worry about ordering anything domestically. EU wide the same so long as the vendor isn't a moron. There is practice already established as to how things should be sealed, decoys employed, printed labels/fake company logos etc. it's 2016 some of these guys have probably been doing this 10 years by now.
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Was about to reply when I read your post, pretty much exactly what I was going to say,

PGP and VPN are the bare minimum securitywise, you can opt to tumble the coins for a fee but if you are just buying btc to spend there and then on the markets it's not really necessary, just adds extra delays to the process IMO.

Just bought 50 quids worth today using cash deposit at the local bank, within 15 mins of sending the cash the btc was waiting in my account, 30 mins later I was PGP'ing my address for the vendor and placing my order and all being well tomorrow I should be getting confirmation it has arrived,

It is so simple that anyone can do it, just need to learn the basics and the rest you discover along the way, there really is no need to spend an hour waiting in the cold for some arrogant dealer to fob you off with '5 mins m8' for hours then settle for substandard gear
 
Sid said:
A VPN and PGP are bare minimums definitely.
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Don't use tor through your vpn unless you really trust your vpn.

That said, don't use tor through your isp unless you really trust your isp either :p
 
Josh said:
Don't use tor through your vpn unless you really trust your vpn.

That said, don't use tor through your isp unless you really trust your isp either :p
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You can't really stress this enough. People just ping about the phrase VPN like it's some kind of magic bullet to stop people snooping on you. Effectively you are giving free reign to the people that provide your VPN to snoop on you and you have no idea who they are or what they are really up to.

Make sure you research the company before you use them and also before you start doing anything remotely dodgy make sure you check for DNS leaks otherwise the whole process can be completely pointless.
 
AirVPN or Mulvad. The two most sensible people would recommend. Ponch is right do not trust any old VPN.

I was sure I recommended AirVPN here already, maybe it was by PM to someone.
 
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