EADD Benzo Discussion V. Waking up in a Wakefield skip

[50shadesofDave]

Someone I care about has been smashing these and to be frank, it’s not great. Are these at least legit? A quick look online suggests they’re not evenly dosed/over dosage?

You’re input is appreciated.

Well i've just bought 60 of the same brand as the photo, my strips have different serial numbers and were bought from the clearweb, and they seem to be right.
I can't vouch for dosage though. I'd start by checking your serial numbers, and i would finish by sending them me. Seriously though, they seem to be the least faked brand as per wedinos but there are many, many vendors + TG groups selling them.

I've just recieved a batch of bensedin that seem counterfeit, slightly shorter sleeve packet, one top edge of the pill is slightly raised (really fine and narrow, you could smooth the edge off with your fingers, if that makes sense) dropped one in a glass with 4" of water and the pill dissolved within 3 mins to a small pile of powder, about usual. The previous bromaz fake bensedins used to puff up and expand in the water test and split in half, still not dissolve overnight.
The taste was absolutley spot on, dissolved in minutes with these. Anyone come across similar? serial numbers all match though 68353.

Back to my point about trying to find the sweetspot as i try and reinstate+maintain at 20/25 mg, during the day i can sort of roll with a bit of brain fog, but i'm having tremors using the mouse+keyboard and a little poor hand/eye coordination around my new workplace, so i've been using 5mg increments to stave the symptoms off, which has worked, but it's leaving me with 10/15mg at night with still poor sleep, it's a new job doing something that is new to me, i feel like a kid on his first day. It's people busy and a lot of random questions to the newguy

I need to keep calm, somehow.

 

[50shadesofDave]

Well i've just bought 60 of the same brand as the photo, my strips have different serial numbers and were bought from the clearweb, and they seem to be right.
I can't vouch for dosage though. I'd start by checking your serial numbers, and i would finish by sending them me. Seriously though, they seem to be the least faked brand as per wedinos but there are many, many vendors + TG groups selling them.

I've just recieved a batch of bensedin that seem counterfeit, slightly shorter sleeve packet, one top edge of the pill is slightly raised (really fine and narrow, you could smooth the edge off with your fingers, if that makes sense) dropped one in a glass with 4" of water and the pill dissolved within 3 mins to a small pile of powder, about usual. The previous bromaz fake bensedins used to puff up and expand in the water test and split in half, still not dissolve overnight.
The taste was absolutley spot on, dissolved in minutes with these. Anyone come across similar? serial numbers all match though 68353.

Back to my point about trying to find the sweetspot as i try and reinstate+maintain at 20/25 mg, during the day i can sort of roll with a bit of brain fog, but i'm having tremors using the mouse+keyboard and a little poor hand/eye coordination around my new workplace, so i've been using 5mg increments to stave the symptoms off, which has worked, but it's leaving me with 10/15mg at night with still poor sleep, it's a new job doing something that is new to me, i feel like a kid on his first day. It's people busy and a lot of random questions to the newguy

I need to keep calm, somehow.

Sorry, i have'nt bought some of them, i thought they were the Dow diaz. Sorry about that, but you're right, hammering them isn't good.

 

[50shadesofDave]

That chart you posted Bleaney is a good find, explains why so many people are fond of Diaz. It doe's look like Clonozepam may be slightly better for sedation, i may try it.
I'll see how i get on over the next week and take it from there, i don't really want to open the door to another substance but i'm sure you understand the desperation after 4/5 nights with really broken sleep.

Thanks, take it easy pal.

 

[sadasaulna]

I've just recieved a batch of bensedin that seem counterfeit, slightly shorter sleeve packet, one top edge of the pill is slightly raised (really fine and narrow, you could smooth the edge off with your fingers, if that makes sense) dropped one in a glass with 4" of water and the pill dissolved within 3 mins to a small pile of powder, about usual. The previous bromaz fake bensedins used to puff up and expand in the water test and split in half, still not dissolve overnight.
The taste was absolutley spot on, dissolved in minutes with these. Anyone come across similar? serial numbers all match though 68353.

Out of curiosity, what does flubromaz taste like? I'm familiar with the taste of Diazepam. Would you say its noticeably different?

 

[50shadesofDave]

I've no experience with the taste of that substance sorry, it's only really diaz and latterly alpraz that i recognise, although i bet there are many that are bitter like alpraz.
Would top level counterfieters go to the level of matching a pill taste? i've just been wondering given every decent manufacturer has a blag product flying with it, just look at the crap that's been found in benzos just on wedinos. I'm probably talking shit as i've indulged in a smoke to celebrate my new job but i've a few bensedins that taste and melt perfect but the press is slightly off i think, and all batch numbers the same, fair heavy knock off them though, in the right way? maybe wrong.

 

[sadasaulna]

No worries. I found an RC vendor with bromaz so if I ever get some I'll let you know how they taste! I noticed I said flubromaz but actually the fake ones seem to be bromaz, I stand corrected.

My bensedins arrived today, hope they're legit. Not worried about RC benzos its that Metonitazene that scares me. I noticed looking at Wedinos that nearly all of those fake Bensedin with Metonitazene in them are an off-white purplish colour with a grainy texture, not the pure white smooth pills I am used to.

Will see how one tastes tonight.

Best of luck with your new job.

 

[Bleaney]

I had one of the 10mg Martin Dows Valiums this morning and it didn't feel underdosed. In fact I felt it 'kick in' slightly more strongly than I've been feeling what is meant to be an equialent dose of the 10mg Bensedins.

I'm still waiting for the Wedinos result, but they taste right, and feel right. And everything about the blister packs and pills looks OK too.

They are the light blue ones.

 

[50shadesofDave]

Bromaz tastes like alpraz, very bitter.

Let me know what you think of the bensedins, have a look at the press and see if one edge has a slight ridge around the circumfrence, we may have the same batch. i'd be interested to know what you think, seem very strong to me.

Also dripping one in a glass of water to see if it dissolves naturally. The fakes expand and split across the diameter.

Thank you.

 

[50shadesofDave]

I also found the Martin dow to be the best of the bunch at the moment, i've been using them in halves though so not noticed a 'knock' as it were, i'm still trying to get my timing right with finding my maintenance dose.
I have received a fair few 'new' bensedins and they feel far too strong? taste right, all packets have the same serial number but identical pills on wedinos are showing diaz, i've not had chance to send one off as the cat has attacked the printer when printing the form, i can't get it to align now!

Anyhow, the bensedin look fine on one side but the other has (fletching) round the sides where powder has escaped the press..i've just made that word up for this particular issue, i think it works and i'm proud of myself.

Taste fine but they are more like Nitrazepam, heavy feeling.

Keep your eyes out and report back if you stumble across any.

 

[Bleaney]

I found that the first couple of times I took the Bensedins, but the effect quickly wore off after that. I put it down to not having used diazepam for some time prior to that, and also it was my first time trying Bensedins.

Similarly it's my first time with Martin Dows Valium, and maybe this somehow tricks the brain into thinking it's something new it hasnt got any tolerance to. All this could be completely made up bx by myself, although it makes sense to myself at least.

When I first got the Bensedins, I sent one off to Wedinos for testing and the result came back as kosher. And there was no signs of any escaped powder on the blisters I received.

 

[sadasaulna]

Well I have been had. Complete bunk. The pills were chalky so I knew immediately something was off. Munched half of one and its all chalk and tastes of absolutely nothing. I've used these guys for ages though, for Alprazloam, Clonazapam, Lorazepam, Nitrazepam and Diazepam and they've always been right on the money. Pretty miffed.

Emailed them asking them to sort this.

F***ing state of this market.

With these shenanigans and Metonitazene going on its really put me off Diazepam. Gonna switch to Clonazepam or Etizolam, probably the latter.

 

[sadasaulna]

I found that the first couple of times I took the Bensedins, but the effect quickly wore off after that. I put it down to not having used diazepam for some time prior to that, and also it was my first time trying Bensedins.

A while back I drew some subjective curves for onset and strength feel of various benzos - I've tried quite a few because i'm a bit of a psychonaut like that. I wanted to see which ones I liked.

Diazepam definitely has a "hump" in the curve where it comes on strong on then rapidly falls off back to something more gentle with a slow graceful decline after that. Maybe its one of the metabolites that has a short half life giving that initial boost. I forget the half lifes of the metabolites now but there are quite a few if I recall correctly.

So if you haven't had it in a while I'm pretty sure you were just feeling the hump.

 

[50shadesofDave]

You and Bleaney may have called it spot on, i had two of the dow and got the same, try again tomorrow.

I'm sorry you got scammed, been there loads in the past.
Take care, Dave.

 

[sadasaulna]

Well those peeps I've done business with for a few years and always were reliable and had great customer service more or less told me to get bent saying their drugs are 100% legit and they don't do refunds.

Will send one off to Wedinos just for the sake of it, I expect it to be "No active compound" or whatever though.

So great, I lost the one clearnet vendor I thought I could trust, though I suppose their clonazepam will still be solid but I don't feel like doing business with these guys if they're so haughty about trying to sort it out. Money down the drain.

I guess I will be pulling the trigger on some Etizolam from overseas.

 

[sadasaulna]

UPDATE: After expressing being pretty upset about the "FU" situation my clearnet vendor has at least suggested they might be willing to take me seriously after I mentioned getting the pills tested with WEDINOS to prove they had sent me bunk pills. Not sure if it anything will come of it, but the change of heart is worth noting. Thanks to 50shadesofDave for reaching out to me in a PM with suggestions and help.

 

[sadasaulna]

UPDATE: After expressing being pretty upset about the "FU" situation my clearnet vendor has at least suggested they might be willing to take me seriously after I mentioned getting the pills tested with WEDINOS to prove they had sent me bunk pills. Not sure if it anything will come of it, but the change of heart is worth noting. Thanks to 50shadesofDave for reaching out to me in a PM with suggestions and help.

To be fair the the clearnet vendor I get how anyone wanting to claim free pills could just claim their pills didn't do anything and want more, that would be an easy scam, so I get why they wouldn't want to be messed around with that kind of scam. So I may have been unfair at their initial response. Anyone could claim more than what was due on the basis that "these don't hit" and try and double their chances. I will see how they respond.

In my defense I offered to send the almost entire pill package back.

 

[50shadesofDave]

So, i'm just wondering if anyone has tried to re-instate a dose of diazepam they were used to taking? As some know i was taking 30mg dailly which came to an abrupt end, i found alprazolam + bromazolam in the absence of any other benzo.
I had been using alpraz + bromaz to keep the edge off and live a somewhat normal life, i used these for around three months. i've just recieved diazepam again and have been trying to settle on 20mgs but i'm still noticing slight tremor, expected brainfog, and other little bits.
Would you jump back to 30mg and all at the same time eg, 8pm?

I've been spreading them out initialy due to slight tremor at work, could do without the slight sedation/dissconnect at work.
I tried modalert but that just gave me a rash.

I'm thinking 30mg in the evening and stick until symptom free? shoud'nt need to dose the next day.

Has anyone been unable to reinstate? i've heard it's a thing.

Thank you.

 

[LoginNotSecure]

So, i'm just wondering if anyone has tried to re-instate a dose of diazepam they were used to taking? As some know i was taking 30mg dailly which came to an abrupt end, i found alprazolam + bromazolam in the absence of any other benzo.
I had been using alpraz + bromaz to keep the edge off and live a somewhat normal life, i used these for around three months. i've just recieved diazepam again and have been trying to settle on 20mgs but i'm still noticing slight tremor, expected brainfog, and other little bits.
Would you jump back to 30mg and all at the same time eg, 8pm?

I've been spreading them out initialy due to slight tremor at work, could do without the slight sedation/dissconnect at work.
I tried modalert but that just gave me a rash.

I'm thinking 30mg in the evening and stick until symptom free? shoud'nt need to dose the next day.

Has anyone been unable to reinstate? i've heard it's a thing.

Thank you.

You'd be much better addressing the issue of why you feel you need these drugs to live a "somewhat normal life" rather than self medicating, because it rarely, if ever, works long-term. Try tapering until you feel you can jump off completely.

 

[axe battler]

So, i'm just wondering if anyone has tried to re-instate a dose of diazepam they were used to taking? As some know i was taking 30mg dailly which came to an abrupt end, i found alprazolam + bromazolam in the absence of any other benzo.
I had been using alpraz + bromaz to keep the edge off and live a somewhat normal life, i used these for around three months. i've just recieved diazepam again and have been trying to settle on 20mgs but i'm still noticing slight tremor, expected brainfog, and other little bits.
Would you jump back to 30mg and all at the same time eg, 8pm?

I've been spreading them out initialy due to slight tremor at work, could do without the slight sedation/dissconnect at work.
I tried modalert but that just gave me a rash.

I'm thinking 30mg in the evening and stick until symptom free? shoud'nt need to dose the next day.

Has anyone been unable to reinstate? i've heard it's a thing.

Thank you.

You should be ok to take 30mg of diazepam if 20mg isnt enough to cover your withawals from alpraz/bromazolam but Login's advice is good.
30mg of diazepam is quite a lot, but it's not going to magically solve your problems. You'll end up tolerant to it and needing to up that, which will result in more side effect and an even greater reliance on diazepam.
Also diazepam gets faked a lot, it'll be awful to need 30mg per day just to stay withdrawal free, then getting a batch of dodgy or bunk tabets. It's very unlinkely that you'll always be able to get 100% legit diazepam every time you buy, even if it's from the same vendor.

It's better if you can only use benzos once in a bue moon in times of great stress, they're not really an effective medication for every day use. Id advise you taper off them and keep your use sporadic
I'm finally giving negative tests for benzos after about a month of not using them. It's been an awful month but it feels good to be going in the right direction.

Tldr: yes but you should taper off and keep use occasional.

 

[50shadesofDave]

Thank you, i had been dependent on diaz at 30mg dailly for three years, my supply got cut short and had to scramble the alpaz and bromaz as they were the only benzo i could find.
Now i have diaz again i've been trying 20mg to reinstate and maintin but i'll go back up to 30mg and start from there, i did think the three months off diaz may have lowered my tolerance, but still too many noticable symptoms.

I did read that getting your re-instatement sorted was'nt easy.

Thank you folks.