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EADD Benzo Discussion V. Waking up in a Wakefield skip

axe battler said:
Wow I'd love to have a tonne of etizolam powder sitting about!
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You might think that you would, but it's very likely that things might not turn out so good if you did.

I remember thinking that buying 1000 Etilaam pills would be such a good and shrewd move to get the bulk purchase discount, thinking that they would last me for a long time.

But I didn't factor in how much having all those pills to hand would lead to an escalation in my dosages. Pretty soon I wasn't just boshing multiple pills, but multiple strips of 10 pills! It was madness, and probably one of the worst of my many drug mistakes.
 
Was scoring h and just got more tablets for a laugh after my mate asking if I was interested in temazepam (what benzo boy wouldn't be?). Anyway I met him, he'd had two and was totally out of it. He got me the pills and they are merely plain white. No score, no logo. I'm not used to these as I get proper pills online and test them so if is fascinating, yet scary to see what people are taking. I know that people eat a whole bag and go loopy but this lad had 2 tablets and was like a zombie. Given him the odd proper valium here and there and he's fine. Looking forward to seeing what wedinos has to say.
 
pharaoh said:
Was scoring h and just got more tablets for a laugh after my mate asking if I was interested in temazepam (what benzo boy wouldn't be?). Anyway I met him, he'd had two and was totally out of it. He got me the pills and they are merely plain white. No score, no logo. I'm not used to these as I get proper pills online and test them so if is fascinating, yet scary to see what people are taking. I know that people eat a whole bag and go loopy but this lad had 2 tablets and was like a zombie. Given him the odd proper valium here and there and he's fine. Looking forward to seeing what wedinos has to say.
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Not seen any black market temazepam in over 10 years. All the temazepam I've seen has been either NHS script or foreign pharma brands. I'd be very weary of loose tablets actually being temazepam.
 
elgoucho9 said:
Not seen any black market temazepam in over 10 years. All the temazepam I've seen has been either NHS script or foreign pharma brands. I'd be very weary of loose tablets actually being temazepam.
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Absolutely. I'm guessing it's just a marketing ploy to sell off whatever benzo has been pressed into them. I remember a few years ago some white pills with a logo of sorts being called "temazepam" on the streets but everyone complained about how weak they were and assumed that they must've been "2mg diazepam" (or the 1mgs - can't remember what genuine ones are white). Junky street logic. I've just been buying them to test. I highly doubt that they would have any temazepam in them. On one occasion I did buy a tub of legit looking "temazepam" eggs from a fairly trusted source and they were either bunk or my tolerance was so high from regular diazepam use that I didn't notice them. I don't think I've had temazepam so there's no way of knowing without testing. Other than that, I've only known of people having them prescribed back in the day. What struck me was how strung out the guy was. As I say, I get diazepam from a reliable source and have the tested and I normally chuck him or whoever a couple and I've never seen him like this. It reminds me of when a person eats 20 "blues" straight from the bag and end up in a total mess, usually due to a massive dosage of etiz, fluaz or any of the others floating about. Maybe he just hadn't slept well or something but it was alarming to see. The "street valium" problem in Scotland is a prime example of how decriminalisation and steps towards legally obtained substances for problematic users is crucial. I'd be very interested to see how many people end up doing jail time and not even knowing why after eating bags of these fucking pills.
 
Temazepam and midazolam were both overrated on here and other drugs forums I've read online to be honest. Even when it's pharma tablets on all fronts, I would take diazepam over other benzos.
 
Indeed - it lacked the 2-methyl side-chain so less potent... but since hydroxylation at the 2 position is the main metabolic pathway, duration is longer. I was asked to find a legal alternative to etizolam... and spend a full 30 seconds on metizolam. Deschloroetizolam was the other one someone came up with. I had presumed that removing the '2-chloro would reduce potency MORE although it's duration would likely be the same as etizolam.
 
Bleaney said:
You might think that you would, but it's very likely that things might not turn out so good if you did.

I remember thinking that buying 1000 Etilaam pills would be such a good and shrewd move to get the bulk purchase discount, thinking that they would last me for a long time.

But I didn't factor in how much having all those pills to hand would lead to an escalation in my dosages. Pretty soon I wasn't just boshing multiple pills, but multiple strips of 10 pills! It was madness, and probably one of the worst of my many drug mistakes.
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Hahaha too true, my friend. I miss that shit though, even though it makes me so fucking irresponsible and irritating.
 
pharaoh said:
Was scoring h and just got more tablets for a laugh after my mate asking if I was interested in temazepam (what benzo boy wouldn't be?). Anyway I met him, he'd had two and was totally out of it. He got me the pills and they are merely plain white. No score, no logo. I'm not used to these as I get proper pills online and test them so if is fascinating, yet scary to see what people are taking. I know that people eat a whole bag and go loopy but this lad had 2 tablets and was like a zombie. Given him the odd proper valium here and there and he's fine. Looking forward to seeing what wedinos has to say.
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Please report back! I'm interested to know. I reckon flubromazolam. We could start a kitty.
 
axe battler said:
@AlsoTapered the guy said he wasn't sure if it was etizolam and as you said you didn't have anything to test, you just ate it.
I don't want anyone thinking they can just eat 100mg and go about their day.
I do admit that when I was fairly naive to etizolam then I took 20-odd mg, I didn't get a lot out of it. They were the Etilaam-1 brand that were infamously great, but they did fuck all, or so I thought. But I was popping them like smarties at work and got sent home by my manager after about 8-10mg so fuck knows.
Maybe they subjective, anxiolitic effects plateau, but the drooling , slurring and generally acting like a darted rhino FX don't.
@AutoTripper I think you could weigh in here, mate.
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Hi mate. I think I can at least offer a concrete personal angle here, being the largest stickler of all for always actually knowing pretty precisely what enters my blood, mg for mg mcg for mcg gram for gram.


Now 1st, the idea of a person taking 100 mg's legit Etiz in a day is actually feasible, I've heard it done.

I never went that high myself but I always used 2.5 × average non poly kava drinker's daily amount and from start IME once Kavalactone saturated any benzos are near doubly potentiated and so is the kava.

Add cannabis in oodles, again by itself alone enough drugs to manage a life and still be wasted 24/365 lol.


Otherwise yeah I could eat 100 mg's Etiz maybe.

However side effects, physical like hangover uneasy in own skin, over 25 mg's really needed be cut off point to avoid.

Better 20, quite manageable and sustainable but even 18 smoother there.

Same 15, 12, 10, 8 (about as low I got 3 years now)


Diminishing returns basically tolerance and needs aside.


Once accidentally took about 35 mg's atop 15 that day, lots kava.

On paper well over 500 mg's Diazepam equiv. With kava increasing benzo blood plasma levels plus half life too.

I also took over 15 mg's other times, after a day's worth already.

These were all technically overdoses as each one I was blacked out sleep walking zero memory not safe stairs kitchen etc trying to do things bizarrely, messy AF situations 6 hrs.

Waking finally to WTF??


Breaking back the 35 mg OD plus internal injuries still plaguing.


So I mean, I can truly handle one welly of psychoactives. Deny the power.

Yet those doses Etiz (in context of my heavy KL and cannabinoid saturation) made me a mindless sleepwalking danger to myself.


100 mg's for me then would have been I can't imagine probably safer! Lol cos it'd actually put me f bed & keep me there.

I hope there is some introspection can be drawn from thar at least.

Big up and respect bro. Tanna Marang kava Edward got atm it's dope cheaper too onna my faves ever.
 
Also, 10 mg's pure Etiz, even evening after 10-15 that day, in right moment like not when just waking up for the day say


Even with tonnes kava and weed, was my favourite way of experiencing Etiz.

Always no struggle staying awake, functioning anything. Feeling real happy ages too super fast anxiolytic polar cap melt lol.
 
AutoTripper said:
Also, 10 mg's pure Etiz, even evening after 10-15 that day, in right moment like not when just waking up for the day say


Even with tonnes kava and weed, was my favourite way of experiencing Etiz.

Always no struggle staying awake, functioning anything. Feeling real happy ages too super fast anxiolytic polar cap melt lol.
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Yeah, but what Tapered was saying is that 1mg of etizolam is the same as taking 100mg or even more, which I think all of us can agree is definitely wrong. Anyway enough of that argument it's getting old.
I think whatever study tried to prove that is flawed flawed flawed.
 
axe battler said:
Yeah, but what Tapered was saying is that 1mg of etizolam is the same as taking 100mg or even more, which I think all of us can agree is definitely wrong. Anyway enough of that argument it's getting old.
I think whatever study tried to prove that is flawed flawed flawed.
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They also posit something similar about LSD. Which I've always bluntly refuted.

2.5 mg's LSD basically is (and literally lol) more than twice the "alleged" ceiling of 1200 mics.

Sky's the limit or imagination in my feeling there.


I don't buy this idea though either. Every dose is different once past 25 mg's regularly the negatives outweigh.

It's to me like any other drug with no real ceiling just many different levels of experience.
 
AutoTripper said:
They also posit something similar about LSD. Which I've always bluntly refuted.

2.5 mg's LSD basically is (and literally lol) more than twice the "alleged" ceiling of 1200 mics.

Sky's the limit or imagination in my feeling there.


I don't buy this idea though either. Every dose is different once past 25 mg's regularly the negatives outweigh.

It's to me like any other drug with no real ceiling just many different levels of experience.
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Wowzaz 2.5mg of 'Sid! That's like 100! doses for a "normie". Yourrtmmmmmmjjhhhhhû6 would be my reaction to that (that I did with my arse after putting my phone in my pocket).
 
axe battler said:
They were the strips of Etizest. Definitely etizolam. I tried metizolam a few times and quite liked it. Didn't it have a longer duration than etizolam, just half the potency by weight?
Wow I'd love to have a tonne of etizolam powder sitting about!
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God i remember getting etizest years ago. Brings back memories of them and the blue pellets then after.
 
axe battler said:
Wowzaz 2.5mg of 'Sid! That's like 100! doses for a "normie". Yourrtmmmmmmjjhhhhhû6 would be my reaction to that (that I did with my arse after putting my phone in my pocket).
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I took 5 mg's twice Dec 2011 Mar 2012, in 48 hours though each time.

1st time was purely ace. I was fully okay during, great after. It's like....50 DECENT trips lol, as in you'd be happy with two or 1.5 no 65 ug shit lol


I was slow, dozey wasted days after well relaxed though.

March one I'd redosed up to 2.5 mg's 16 hours 1st drop about 1000 wandered me.

After 16 hours vaping powerful device good weed snowed v heavy that Sat night/Sun day too, I visited nearby A&E on a full on acid panic attack.


Convinced was seeing grave lol, v v v hard to explain myself there, I just wanted some Chlorazine or some carbon to suck.


They called me down kept few hours, I had the mentallest trip there wicked place to be so psychedelically lit up.


Discharged 10 pm, home vaped weed all night staring into madness, the most right out there ever been in ways dropped remaining 2.5 mg's following day, again so hammered after right okay though.


2021 took 2.7, 2.5 six days later closest to that since. Every dose up to those too many times to count.
 
AutoTripper said:
I took 5 mg's twice Dec 2011 Mar 2012, in 48 hours though each time.

1st time was purely ace. I was fully okay during, great after. It's like....50 DECENT trips lol, as in you'd be happy with two or 1.5 no 65 ug shit lol


I was slow, dozey wasted days after well relaxed though.

March one I'd redosed up to 2.5 mg's 16 hours 1st drop about 1000 wandered me.

After 16 hours vaping powerful device good weed snowed v heavy that Sat night/Sun day too, I visited nearby A&E on a full on acid panic attack.


Convinced was seeing grave lol, v v v hard to explain myself there, I just wanted some Chlorazine or some carbon to suck.


They called me down kept few hours, I had the mentallest trip there wicked place to be so psychedelically lit up.


Discharged 10 pm, home vaped weed all night staring into madness, the most right out there ever been in ways dropped remaining 2.5 mg's following day, again so hammered after right okay though.


2021 took 2.7, 2.5 six days later closest to that since. Every dose up to those too many times to count.
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Oh yeah cos 2.5mg is 2500ug, so 2500/100 would only be 25ug. Silly me. I was pretty pissed to be fair. It's still a lot though!
 
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