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EADD Benzo Discussion v. Finally remembered to start a new thread.

englandgz74 said:
Not for the bloke mangled in a car wreck. It's the massive iv dose that's used and is apparently extremely unpleasant. It takes a lot of ketamine to knock someone unconscious and they k hole instantly. It's meant to be horrible..... Hence the midazolam.
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Yeah, I was kidding mate, I've been k-holed myself.
 
MUSHET said:
Yeah, I was kidding mate, I've been k-holed myself.
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Was it unpleasant mate? Can you imagine iv'ing 20 times your normal dose. I can't imagine it being nice. I'm really interested in therapeutic use of ketamine. It's really helpful for paramedics as most other anaesthetics cause respiratory depression and couldn't be used in an ambulance. We do have life support stuff but we're not doctors....
 
I just railed a huge line of it, it was pretty intense, very difficult to explain.

Best time was when I double dropped acid and then took ket while tripping, one of the most insane experiences of my life, I was in another dimension, it was awe-inspiring and beautiful, then I spewed as I came back to reality wondering what the fuck just happened, but was still tripping hard on the LSD.
 
Tranced said:
I'd appreciate it if you weren't so readily willing to patronise me, thanks. I am well aware of what bluelights intentions are, having posted here for twelve years.

You've already made it clear that you're not willing to guess, can't remember, and don't know. As such, I am no longer asking you to guess anything. I'm just stating that I can tell when a tablet contains roughly 2mg alprazolam, which I can. I am in no way denying that this would be regarded as an assumption.

I didn't seek to patronise you for saying "you only had a few hundred", as if that isn't a ridiculously high (dangerous) amount of benzos, which could endanger some unwitting and new forum viewer.
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I'm not seeking to patronise just to reinforce the view that to believe so strongly you know what is in untested street benzos is foolhardy and dangerous. Their are many benzos with similar actions among the vast proliferation available, and even as someone who has consumed rather a lot in their life the instances of which I would say with any degree of certainty what they contained just from sampling them are extremely limited and even then only because I was consuming lots of the same benzo scripted from uk pharmacies at the same time.

With regards to the quantity, of course it is a large amount. In the grand scheme of things it's not that much though if you are selling them, I probably only sampled a small portion of that number. Compared to other instances where I had thousands and thousands passing through my hands and body it is a pretty small sample size to be forming any strong opinion on the contents.

No need to take things personally, I just felt it was naive to talk in absolute terms about the contents of street drugs in the way you were. Thefact is you don't know what all those apills touted as alprazolam contained, and removing that attitude is kind of a basic tenet of what this site is trying to achieve. Once again, it's not personal.
 
Heed every single warning, they are not exaggerated.
The TRS benzos are renowned for punching your receptors already, but Flubromazolam is the worst of the lot for complete blackouts in a vast majority of people.

It's not often I say this, but I can't in good conscience advise sampling a compound that left 2 entire months absent from my memory, 2 months in which I was a complete cunt to everyone I loved.

<3
 
SproutOnSmack said:
Heed every single warning, they are not exaggerated.
The TRS benzos are renowned for punching your receptors already, but Flubromazolam is the worst of the lot for complete blackouts in a vast majority of people.

It's not often I say this, but I can't in good conscience advise sampling a compound that left 2 entire months absent from my memory, 2 months in which I was a complete cunt to everyone I loved.

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Very true. My advice is stay away, Flubromazolam is potent stuff, you'll pop and pop thinking you're 'fine', when in fact you're running around Blackout City.
 
Fact is I use benzos for comedowns when I take stims, and always in low doses. My times of using benzos to get "fucked up" are gone and now I use them to relax when I'm coming down or very little quantities of short-acting benzos to enhance opioids when I'm not very high anyway and I need a little boost (I know this is potentially dangerous but trust me I'm super careful and always err on the low side of dosages, I know the dangers of benzos and have utmost respect for them because I know what they can do.. I could've died a few times from driving/doing stupid shit while on benzos so I decided that I wouldn't fuck with them unless when ACTUALLY needed or in 110% safe conditions, and even then in small dosages).

So, considering this, do you think taking half/quarter of a pellet and leaving the rest home would be dangerous? I don't plan to ever use enough to be "wasted" or some shit, just a bit chilled during a stim comedown.
Is half a pellet (125ug) too much for this purpose? Maybe should I try 1/4 of a pellet?

P.S. of course I would never use these with an opioid or other drugs. The sole purpose of why I bought these is to ease comedowns.
 
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Why not just use a benzo that you've tried, tested and feel comfortable with already, if it's just for stim comedowns.

Halfing pellets sounds like a pain in the arse anyway.

However, you only have 5, if you're as careful as you say you are then I'm sure 1 pellet will be fine for you.
 
Problem is I have only short-acting benzos readily available, I can get clonazepam which lasts long but I don't really like it, so I wanted something more long lasting which IMO is best for comedowns.
Halving the pellet is not a problem as they have a mark in the middle. I guess I'll try with half then, I wanna be sure they're not too strong. Thanks for your input.
 
Jeez, i can't believe how cheap the Clonazolam powder is to purchase. Would only lead to overdosing troubles so i think i'm much safer buying the pellets even though they cost more.
 
ComfortablyNumb95 said:
Problem is I have only short-acting benzos readily available, I can get clonazepam which lasts long but I don't really like it, so I wanted something more long lasting which IMO is best for comedowns.
Halving the pellet is not a problem as they have a mark in the middle. I guess I'll try with half then, I wanna be sure they're not too strong. Thanks for your input.
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you'll be fine with a half to a full pellet, but even as a benzo pig who wouldnt hesitate to chew up 50mg diaz with no tolerance, i find flubro to be frighteningly dangerous. just take one and put them away. it's not a great benzo IMO.
 
Has anyone here got first hand experience of using benzos for a few years and then tapering off or down? (whether you were successful or not)

My doseage and tolerance is gradually coming down, progress is slow and steady but good, had absolutely no problems so far. what i wonder is whether the occasional one off 'blow out' on something like flubromazepam or clonazepam will just immediately send my tolerance sky rocketing and set me right back, or whether it wont make much difference at all to my tolerance and taper?

I expect that at least on the following day i might have to pay for it, in terms of i might not be able to feel anything off what has become my usual lower dose, but i would be going straight back to my low dose after these perhaps once every couple of months blowouts. But if it might mean that my tolerance would shoot up and take a long time to bring it back down again, then i will have to forget the whole 'benzo treat' idea.
 
I find mini binges on the likes of etiz usually set me back about a week but everyone is different. last week for example i was maintaining on 2mg diclaz and stupidly munched 9 etizest. the following few days i took 3mg diclaz then back down to 2 again within the week. I think its longer term benzo binges that would make a real dent in your progress. This is just my experience and other people may permanently fuck their tolerance from one blow out, hard to tell really.

Currently maintaining on 3mg diclaz a day but sorted myself some legit diazepam so I plan to taper down to 1mg of diaz then switch over to the diazepam.
 
I find etizolam to have little to zero effect with even a small benzo tolerance. I was maintaining on ~20mg diazepam daily and ate up to 80mg etizolam at a time (in an evening) and it didn't touch the sides.
 
Do you have pills or powder and what brand?
My guess Etizest pills from a fake batch.
Check the batch number with the topic related.
 
headfuck123 said:
I find mini binges on the likes of etiz usually set me back about a week but everyone is different. last week for example i was maintaining on 2mg diclaz and stupidly munched 9 etizest. the following few days i took 3mg diclaz then back down to 2 again within the week. I think its longer term benzo binges that would make a real dent in your progress. This is just my experience and other people may permanently fuck their tolerance from one blow out, hard to tell really.

Currently maintaining on 3mg diclaz a day but sorted myself some legit diazepam so I plan to taper down to 1mg of diaz then switch over to the diazepam.
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thanks for your answer. I had more or less decided to take the sensible option of stopping fucking about with benzos, taking the taper seriosuly, and not risking a blow out. And your reply has made me even more convinced that that is the right thing to do.

I seem to have already blown out my tolerance to etizolam and meclonazepam (the meclonz after only about 3 small purchases). Fortunately pyraz and diclaz still remain effective, and i would never have a blow out on those, for one thing they arent even instrinsically very recreational substances in the least, plus i have learnt my lesson with etiz and am not foolish enough to repeat the same mistake with p and d.

I was 25% tempted to get some flubromazepams or clonazepam (whenever its back in stock) but i dont think its worth the risk of setting my tolerance back or blowing it completely. The clock is ticking, and even though i can obviously stock up a little before the ban if needs be, id prefer to be off them before the ban.
 
I am becoming a big fan of Clonazolam but I really do have to make sure I take it no more than say 3x a week. It is the only benzo I have tried so far that does get me thinking about daily dosing but that is something I'm doing my best to avoid. These pills need respect and so I only dose 0.5mg a time & that works just fine for me.
 
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