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EADD Benzo Discussion v. Finally remembered to start a new thread.

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I've been scripted almost every benzo over the years for my back and while I never really enjoyed any of them clonazapam was definitely the one that's could "feel" the most.... Amnesia was terrible off it though. All temazepam ever did was make me false asleep. I hate benzos actually. You don't seem to feel as if you've taken anything until you look back the next day and realise you were fucked and did lots of silly things. I always found them easy to stop though.... Benzos and methadone are a dangerous combo that's for sure
 
Exactly right mate....at the time you feel ok but to everyone else your a mess....then you look back and think....fuck!!!.. Were going back 10+ years (before I was with the ambulance service) but I was scripted 10mg day of clonazapam and taking much more than that.....I won't go into details but let's just say I lost some things that were very dear to me at the time.....put me off benzos for life...they are insidious IMO...
 
Has anybody tried the R039 brand 2mg Xanax available on the internet?

I understand it to be (probably) a knock off, but I've never had problems with knock off xanax in the past. The old blue/white footballs, and the big white bars used to be spot on.

Anybody know if this stuff is decent too? I think it's a yellow bar in a blister pack.

Cheers
 
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This thread is in major need of a bump. Lets have a look at the rc's - they probably account for at least 50% of my benzo intake at the moment, with diazepam and clonazepam representing the pharm grade drugs in my stash.

So many new (ish) compounds to try, flubromazolam, clonazolam, meclonazepam, deschloroetizolam... would be nice to sample them but i have my preffered vendor, their pellets are always quality and consistently dosed so im reluctant to even try any of the new flavours from companies i dont deal with or trust. Like any bloke, i love top (x) lists so heres my current chart - based on niceness ratheer than therapeutic value

flubromazepam (love the stuff)
nifoxipam
diclazepam
pyrazolam (damn good benzo, just no rec value at all)

etizolam doesnt even feature on my radar. Dont know what all the fuss was about, i always thought they were wank. Needed a full strip of etizest to even feel anything

anyone want to slip the newer compounds into my top 5?
 
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hard to say stee, was someware between valium and temazpeam had less of both but was pretty strong , dnt bother with it at the moment and rightly so really with the state of affairs atm..
 
Its been years since I had clonazepam so my memory on it is foggy although it was probably my favourite if I remember right. It feels to me like a clonazepam with more oooomph and people on other forums seem to think the same. its Stupidly potent though so be careful. I think 0.5mg is equal to roughly 20mg diaz and there have been people eating 2mg and wondering why their week has disappeared. With a mild tolerance once i took around 1.5mg and have no memory of it but I took my mum out for lunch to an indian restaurant and did a couple other strange things 8( They seem to wipe out any anxiety and leave u feeling confident, fluffy and functional which can be a bad thing for certain people I guess.
 
Ino iv ranted and raved about them enough but imo they are the best all rounders that are currently available. But obviously its best to do your own research, read other reviews and treat them with the upmost respect. I wouldnt want be dependant on these thats for sure!

My fave rc Benzo would probably be in this order:

1. Clonazolam (good all rounder with a euphoric fluffiness but also functional at the right dose)
2. Pyrazolam (perfect benzo for anxiety and if used in the right way seems to give only good things, very functional. I recently aquired a new job thanks to 0.5mg of this and tapered off etiz fairly painlessly with them)
3. Flubromazepam (Great if you want to fully unwind and forget the world, would be my number 1 but lasts far to long!)
4. Diclazepam (good all rounder and quite functional, good for a taper)
5. Etizolam (brilliant to abort trips or for comedowns, good all rounder and has a slight euphoric edge but seems to give me bad rebound with its short half life)
 
Fuck, just what i didnt want to hear as im working on trying keep my tolerance relatively low. Though i spose i was OK with flubro, i just kept that to very occasional usage. Might get some of these colanazolams for the odd occasion as they sound very nice.

What's the strength like compared to etiz?

What is this Nifoxipam like?
 
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Yeah they came at a bad time for me to. Trying to stay away from benzos these days with my new job and other projects i have on the go. I seem to have been able to use them once every couple weeks now which is good but it really is difficult sticking to that.

Hows your taper coming along MDB?

EDIT: also a word of warning, these clonazolams seem to raise tolerance very fast as with flubromazolam!
 
thanks for the warning. My taper is going reasonably well though i could probably be a bit more aggressive with it and resist the occasional top ups that i succumb to if either i convince myself that the diclaz pellets i took were duds if im still awake 4 hours later, or if ive taken diclaz PG mix and im still awake hours later i convince myself it wasnt absorbed properly cos i took it too soon after eating. :\

Im down to 3.3mg/ml a day which is huge progress, i have to guard very carefully against that dose creeping back up again. I find that if i take extra (if ive been on stims for example) then i can no longer feel the 3.3mg dose hit me for a few days, but i can still sleep ok most nights.

So in short the answer is better than expected. I cannot resist trying these clonazolams though. I might try and save them for when i quit kratom but i cant really see myself managing to do that tbh.
 
Fair play your doing well keep it up and you can be free of benzos in no time! Ah, wish id never mentioned them now as they WILL most likely raise your tolerance :/
 
Please dont blame yourself, it was my choice to read the benzo thread and specifically the posts talking about some new ones. I know you are expressing consideration for others but i wouldnt expect or even want the whole forum not to mention X or Y incase it 'triggers' someone. ;)

What ive found is that a temporary or one off higher dose does seem to raise tolerance slightly for a few days, but after roughly 3-4 days it resets back to where it was before. An extended run of big doses on a stronger benzo is one of the last things i want to be doing right now. I'll have to make very sure that i dont do that, as it might not be so easy to get my dose back down to almost reasonable semi-sane doses again if i do.

Btw anyone know or have an estimate of the relative strength of clonazolam and Nifoxipam compared to etiz or diazepam or any other "known" benzo? One of the biggest mistakes i made in my drug taking was not appreciating how strong phenazepam was. I didnt find out that a recommended therapeutic dose was 0.5mg until several months after going through a phenaz train wreck. 8(

I fancy trying those Nifoxy things too. But I wont order them straight away. I dont need them atm and just having too many types of RC benzos just lying around waiting to be boshed doesnt sound like a good idea even though my self control is improving. The fact that they will be new to me and supposedly pretty recreational is gonna make them harder to resist than normal. If i could save them up for when i do my kratom WD i think they might help quite a lot, as they will be novel and recreational and will more than likely take my mind of the kratom w/ds.
 
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Im not sure about the nifoxies but the clanazolam is said to be about 0.5mg = 20mg diaz or i also read 0.5mg of clonazolam = 2mg clonazepam.
 
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