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EADD Benzo Discussion v. Finally remembered to start a new thread.

Does anyone know what the MSJ 10mg diazepam that are currently available are like? I used to get them years ago, and they were fine as far as generics go, but I've been told that there was a flood of fakes. Is it still the same?
 
Got a drugs test sprung on me in 2 weeks time and been using Xanax daily for a long period of time.
So no time to taper, stopped dead on it 2 nights ago.

Second sleepless last night that I tried to correct with Zopiclone & Geeb.
Didn’t touch the sides and left me sick to my stomach today with that metal tasting / buzzy feeling you get.

Can’t take another sleepless night as got work commitments.
Exhausted but still feel wired like I’ll still struggle to sleep.

Any advice on what I can use to get some sleep but not fail the test.
 
Not really mate, i appreciate your work commtments but insomnia is inevitable when withdrawing from any benzodiazepine - however, if insomnia has been the worst problem so fr consider yourself lucky - alprazolam leaves your body quickly so all things considered your doing well if youve ben 48 hours - however - zopiclone is cross tolerant with benzodiazepines so despite not helping you sleep it may have helped prevent more serious withdrawal symptoms (Prof. Ashton equates 7.5mg of zopiclone to 5mg of diazepam).

So, the only thing that would probably get you to sleep is a barbiturate, which you are unlikely to get hold of (i know sourcing isnt allowed, but im ready to face a perma-ban if someone points me towards a reliable source of Seconal). Mirtazepine and amitriptaline are antidepressants that are occasionally prescribed off label a sleep aids for general insomnia, but as yours is benzodiazepine related, I doubt either would help you sleep. They're also POM's so the extra hassle of going through a physician probably isnt worth it.

In my personal opinion, the antihistamine Promthazine is by far the most powerful sedative available without a prescription, however, the gold standard brand 'Phenergan' which contains promethazine hydrochloride as its active ingredient is difficult to come by in uk pharmacies at the moment, although generic versions of promethazine tartate are available in some chemists.

However,due to the source of your insomnia none of these drugs are likely to work - id simply face up to what i appreciate is a hard choice - imo you should prioritize your mental state over any work commitments - have a couple of days off - better that than going to work overtired and putting yourself and yourcolleagues at risk

Good luck bud

Stee
 
Cheers Stee I really appreciate the feedback.

Really took a turn for the worse the last few hours.
Suffering big time...can hardly hold my shit together at work.
Found an Etiz in my drawer and just took that.

Time off work isn't an option unfortunately.
Fuck me wasn't prepared for this.
 
diphenhydramine will send you to sleep and from my limited knowledge of testing does not show up. LOW doses work better (as stupid as that sounds).

Boo*s sleep easy.
 
That etiz has levelled me out thank fuck but does that put me a step back again ??
Gonna need to try and get tomorrow off and ride this out over the weekend.

Is there a specific diphenhydramineproduct I ask for ???
Bare with me on this as I’m not functioning at an optimum level here.

Hence the fucked up font...least of my worries 8(
 
Just opened my box of clonaz and had an extra strip of 10 2mg only get 14 off the doc for rare occasions......human error on the chemists behalf,oh well I shan't say anything :)
 
Has anybody else had any experience with nifoxipam? Reports seem to vary widely and I'm suspicious of shills on a lot of websites.

I searched this thread and found F.U.B.A.R and stee talking about it. I need something that isn't too recreational, is quick acting, with a short half-life. F.U.B.A.R's reporting seems to match this quite well. It's just that I have a trip with a few people planned for next week and I need something in case of emergency (a good host prepares well). This is the only one I have available to me that doesn't seem to have a long half life, and not very recreational or sedating. I don't want to get something strong as I have no self control with benzos and I have fucked myself up twice now with long-acting/powerful benzos.
 
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My benzo tolerance is quite high at the moment but i recently got a good deal on 100 of the litttle bronze 0.5mg sour efforts. 10mg (20mg) had no effect so im saving them untill my bodies in a position to respond to them. Get the 2mg pellets if you can don - i remember getting some effect from them but only at doses of 10mg or above.
 
I've only got the .5mg available to me. There's plenty of vendors doing the 2mg ones but I'm sticking to my regular vendors because I want to use my unspent loyalty points. I decided to order 50 of the .5mg. I'm pretty sure my tolerance will be gone as it's 5 weeks since I touched a benzo, bar 2mg of diazepam one night. My fellow trippers have no tolerance either. I probably won't need to use them, but may take a few on the comedown. If they're shite I won't be too bothered because they are essentially free, as my loyalty points cover them.

At least I'll be confident that I'm not going to be falling asleep in work, or trying to charge customers for my own skins and tobacco...again.

Cheers :D
 
I find 2 - 4 of the bronze sour 0.5mg ones will get me nicely relaxed but nothing special. I only tried them because the price was right but they do work for me even if they haven't got the oooomph of some other Rc benzos on the market. The sour taste off them is worrying though.
 
That sounds pretty good then. If I was after something for recreation and not pure utility, I wouldn't consider going near this stuff.
 
Does anyone know the true half life of meclonazepam? Recently got some out of curiosity and so far they feel like an ideal maintenance benzo for me because they are pretty anxiolytic without being too sedating. Id planned a diclaz taper because it has a nice long half life but I find myself getting too tired to function properly and not necessarily being free of anxiety despite feeling so tired/sedated.
 
What are the chances of getting a supervised benzo (diaz) script off the dr for a taper, im uk based (northern ire) and in my early 20's? Been on and off rc benzos for 3 years now, longest time off them being about 2 months id say then I slowly slip back into full blown dependency quite sporadically. I have plenty of rc benzos to taper with but every time I get down to around 0.5mg diclaz I start to struggle and end up going on a mini binge taking me weeks to get back to a lower dose, im sick of this seemingly never ending cycle!

I want benzos out of my life for good, they have caused me to isolate myself due to anxiety issues or being to fucked to give a shit about anything including uni work and maintaining healthy relationships. I think having the support of medical professionals behind me id be able to stick to the taper and wouldn't feel as secretive and dodgy as taking rc benzos and keeping it a secret from firends/family.

Whats the worst that could happen? Id be labelled a a druggy with addictive behaviours and risk not being prescribed certain medicines in future incase I abuse them and maybe be turned away completely? Im guessing my Dr hasn't a clue about rc benzos so maybe I should print off some info about them?
 
Does anyone have any idea about what is going on with the Clonazolam situation at the moment? Everywhere seems to be out of stock and have been for a little while now and I'm getting sick of waiting for them to get more stock in.
 
I have the opportunity to get hold of both clonazepam and nitrazepam, would anyone be able to give me a rough idea of what to expect from them compared to something like diazepam? From what I've read they both sound stronger thn diazepam, with clonaz more anxyiolotic and nitraz more hypnotic, is this correct?
 
I'm prescribed Buccolam 10mg/2ml which is Midizolam in plastic syringe. It's for if I have a seizure at home and if it lasts for more than 5 min some one at home can give buccaly to me and it should stop a seizure.

I get 4 of these. So I use 2 of them recreationaly.

The way I is to IV 1ml It's 99% bio. 5mg IV is about the same as 12 to 25mg Diaz. However reading on line its quite difficult to compare.

At 5mg IV it made me proper wobberly. I really enjoyed it. Only thing is that it don't last very long. Of course I could get a 5ml syringe and have 2ml which would be 25mg to 50mg Diaz.

Not very tempting to mix in some gear cus that could be a lethal combo so I ain't going to do it.

The way it should be given is buccal with a bio of 75% max and takes 5 min to begin to work.
 
The dose equivalent to other benzodiazepines is quite difficult.

1mg IV Midazolam could be equal to 5mg IV diazepam. In someone else 3mg IV could be 5mg IV diazepam.

I'm lucky to get it.

However msx I can get 1 pack of 4. Instead of following the guidance my girlfriend wants to give it straight away. Which my GP is ok with. partly cus ambulances are under such stresses who knows how long they will take to get to meb:--/
 
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Does anyone know the true half life of meclonazepam? Recently got some out of curiosity and so far they feel like an ideal maintenance benzo for me because they are pretty anxiolytic without being too sedating. Id planned a diclaz taper because it has a nice long half life but I find myself getting too tired to function properly and not necessarily being free of anxiety despite feeling so tired/sedated.
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Unfortunately not, it's not even on the RC benzo chart that i found.

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/744960-Benzo-strength-equivalancies-(including-RCs)

Subjectively though it definitely feels longer than Diclaz. This week i just had 2 or 3 meclonz on a mid week night and although i didnt feel tired the next day i certainly felt completely 'cant be fuckin arsed' at work for most of the day. Obviously i dont want to be repeating that.

This latest and possibly final order ive obtained has been a disappointment. My tolerance is lower than it ever has been for at least 2 years and yet i can barely feel the fuckers. On the first evening i took 2 6mg pills to help comedown off some stims and so that id be able to sleep, and i felt the familiar happy mellow buzz. On subsequent nights ive ramped the dosage up, i dunno if they just take like 4 hours to kick in (cant be right) or if the batch is shonky, or if my tolerance to them is somehwo shot. I dont see how as ive very rarely used them. (ordered them about 3 times i think, and the last order was many months ago.)

I must have taken at least 15 x 6mg pills last night over the space of several hours in the evening and i could not feel a fucking thing off them. I had to resort to my usual diclaz and pyraz cocktail in the end to help get to sleep, and i felt a low dose of that hit me strongly within about 20 minutes. Maybe the meclonz had finally kicked in by then too. I fell asleep instantly when i turned the lights off and my head hit the pillow. I found it completely impossible to wake and rise at 9 when my alarm went off, and could not wake until gone 12:30pm. Just as well im not working this weekend (though if i was i wouldnt be boshing large amounts of meclonz).

I do want to have one last benzo binge where i can feel them hit me like a sledgehammer but still remain awake if i get the dose right. I love that feeling like your brain has been filled with warm lead. I like it so much i fight against the urge to sleep and sit up vapeing ecigs until i can feel the hit begin to subside. I might have to go back to flubroz at this rate for my final benzo mash up if meclonz have gone to shit. Ive just discovered on wiki that flubromazepam is a phenazepam alnalogue. I wasnt aware of that before. I certainly will not be taking up a flubromazepam habit, but they should be guarenteed to give me proper strong effects.

Alternatively i could try clonazolam, i dont think ive tried them yet, and the chemical structure and effects are reported to be almost indenditcal to the meclonz, and both are tweaks on the 'proper medicinal' non rc clonazepam and the effects are said to be very simillar.

Has anyone else noticed the current supply of meclonz appearing to be shit? Im thinking of complaining to the vendor. They werent fucking cheap. For a premium price id expect a premium product. :|
 
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