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[ruski]

A very good after thought. Always start low, even if your using a concentration that you know was perfect for you last time it may very well not be anywhere near perfect for you this time.

Plague Bearer yeeya, sounds like your using 1,4b if you're dosing around the 1ml range.
Doesnt really rely on substance. More like concentration to water in PPM

 

[gfresh27]

about this measuring stuff. I find that approximately 20 drops from a dropper equals one ml. Seeing as though you should never dose more than 1 or 2ml this can be measured fairly acurately with pure GBL or BDO.

 

[Tarsarlan]

I'm with Soma...
A concentration of 125g/L should be the standard (or 125ml/L), it is the most common form, and if everyone used that concentration then there would be no problems with mistaken doses...
Of course not everyone is going to adhere to this standard, but the more who do, the less chance there is of people screwing up...
...But always remember, if you're at all unsure, don't assume the concentration is what you expect, test at a much lower dose than usual first, preferably at home with someone straight to supervise...

 

[BigTrancer]

I find that approximately 20 drops from a dropper equals one ml. Seeing as though you should never dose more than 1 or 2ml this can be measured fairly acurately with pure GBL or BDO.
This may be true for your substance, and your dropper, but everyone has different equipment and liquid. Twenty drops will be a vastly different volume if the liquid is more viscous (ie. concentrated GBL looks like clear vegetable oil and has far larger droplets than water-diluted GHB/1,4B due to surface tension).
PLEASE people for your own sake if you're using anything less than 10mL doses, get a MEASURING syringe, with graduations at least accurate enough to measure 0.1mL - anything less is taking a great risk.
Seriously, these substances are far too potent to estimate doses with. I wonder about people who are happy to read information on a harm minimisation website about pills and then throw caution to the wind when measuring GHB. It just doesn't make sense to put yourselves and your friends at risk.
BigTrancer

 

[anfalicious]

I have the dropper from a baby panadol bottle, it has .5, .6, .9 and 1ml measurements on it. Very handy indeed Also good as me and my GF have significantly different body weights, so I can handle quit a bit more of the drug than she can (we learnt this lesson after the first few times of her falling asleep and me buzzing and being horny as hell )

 

[gfresh27]

or you can buy them from a chemist for a dollar or two. A worthy investment

 

[shank]

I recently had a big problem trying to determine what 125gm of 14b in 1litre of water was equal to in mls. I am pretty sure this turned out to be 125mls in 1litre of water. which tends to say that 1gm is equal to 1ml.
anyone know if this is right or not???

 

[tari_aja]

I got my hands on some G awhile back and i took it with a nice MDA pill and fuck me i have never ever peaked like that before or since that wonderful wonderful night, it seemed like it would never end.
*starie eyed memories*
Yes they are definately made for each other.

 

[BigTrancer]

Shank: 125g of 1,4 butanediol in water is supposed to be exactly that: 125g of pure substance dissolved in 1L of pure water.
If your 1,4B is already liquid, it's been mixed with water already, or is hotter than 20 deg. C. The pure substance 1,4 butanediol is solid at temperatures below this (Melting Point = 20 deg. C. - see ICSC ref below), therefore if you have a bottle that contains liquid substance, then your 1,4B is likely to be diluted already with water or saline. 1,4 butanediol is very soluble in water.
Warning: Some people will dilute with strong saline (salty water) to change the taste slightly and make the liquid taste like GHB. This is also a common trick when diluting NaGHB/KGHB. Therefore you may be paying for more than you are receiving.
For physical information about 1,4 butanediol here is an online link to the International Chemical Safety Card: ICSC 1104 - 1,4 BUTANEDIOL
BigTrancer

 

[shank]

kewl thanks BT i worked it out afterwards anyway
i am assuming now assuming every 8mls of water plus the bdo is actually 1ml of bdo as it has 125gm of bdo in 1000ml of water which is 1000mls water divided by / 125gms bdo = 8mls of diluted water which is eqaul to each gram of bdo in the diluted water.
i worked it out afterwards anyway for some reason in my rush to try and work it out i didnt think about it logically in this way which would have helped.