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E*lectric Eels & related products

^ Yep that's right; the quote of yours I was replying to was in response to someone's question about states and if they have their own analogue laws. As I mentioned, federal laws would apply to federal charges but if you were caught in possession by your local police, you would be charged under the relevant state law not federal laws.
 
DMAA and cathinone related products with caffeine added in certain products.
Illegal. Theyll go down like all the rest. And I nope they do personally.

The owner actually took his webpage down after a live chat one night because i told him if his products are related to Neorganics ones, he will be charged because people have got visits from customs and ACC etc after importing these drugs.
 
I received 2 Eels and 2 Estatics this morning. I know I'm a greenlighter but whatever (Wait, I'm a bluelighter now - Yay!) - I think I have enough cred on PillReports.


Eels:
Appearance: Red and White Cap, filled to the brim with powder.
(FYI According the manufacturer, the powder is cut with something - so if you plan on buying the powder ask for the "pure" stuff). Powder is light and fluffy.
Smell: The bag they came in smells weirdly enough like chemicals crossed with that dirty artificial banana smell.
Taste: The powder has a chemical taste to it. Bitter. Fizzes on my tongue a little bit, reminds me of those soda can fizzy candy stuff I had as a kid:

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Estatic:
Appearance: Orange, filled to the brim with powder. Powder is light and fluffy.
Smell: Chemical smell, also smells a little bit sweet - doesn't smell as bitter as the Eels
Taste: The powder has a chemical taste to it. Fizzes on my tongue as per the Eels.

I don't have a test kit, but I don't think they'd be of much value for these anyway.


History:
Last night I had 3 points of speed and a really weird "MD cap", which felt like a mild dose 2CB more than anything. I'm a little bit scattered and a little bit spacey - slept for about an hour last night.


Timeline:
I dropped an Eel at a bit after 10 this morning (I think it was like 10:05)


10:30 - Mood elevated. I was pissed off about my money situation and was stressing a bit. Not worried anymore. Head feels a bit lighter.

10:35 - Feel tingly in my head. Feels the same as the Pink Dove that I had on the weekend when it was kicking in.

10:39 - Definitely doing something. Holy shit. Pupils have condensed a little bit (tightened? is that the word for it? They're small), they were still huge when I woke up this morning.

Will update when I get some photos up.
 
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11:05 - So fucking chatty, I'm talking too much shit - if my pupils were big they'd know I'm on something or atleast be a bit suss. I've got the 'drys' real bad too, mouth is sooo dry.

11:08 - Slight head rush, I stood up because I was going to buy a drink from the shop down the road but I got tingles all over and decided to sit down and enjoy it. I'm pretty happy, so far I'm impressed. I didn't expect this much.

11:15 - Went and bought a drink. It's freezing outside and the cold air made it a little bit stronger. At the moment it feels like it's building up to it's peak. It feels pretty speedy, no way are these legal. Feeling close to how I did on two Pink Doves on saturday night (I doubled, they were good) but without the munted feeling, though I can kinda feel it coming on. The feeling comes in pulses, it builds up for 5 mins, dies off, builds up stronger for 5 mins, dies off. And so on and so on.

11:30 I think it's hit it's peak, maybe it hit it's peak 15 minutes ago. Wasn't a huge peak but this is all better than I expected. The drys are really pissing me off, I'm talking to customers and I sound like an idiot; my tongue is sticking to the inside of my mouth. Feeling a tiny bit munty, I've got the really slow heavy blinks going. I keep sucking on my bottom lip but I'm trying to stop as it only just healed from last weekend.

11:45+ It's just really cruisy now, I think it's starting to die off.


PROS:
-Legal(for the time being)
-Cheap alternative to the real thing
-Less obvious you're 'on' something, no pupil dilation.etc
-It actually delivers what it promises, I've had other legal alternatives and they didn't do much for me.



CONS:
-Could be stronger
-Not snortable (yuck!)
-The only thing similar to MDMA is the mood enhancement and the increased sociability. There's not any real muntedness, eye rolling, eye shakes.etc but I did manage to get jaw clenches.
-Don't know the contents so we don't know the harm/risk involved in taking them.
-More-ish, the manufacturer has a dosage limit - I already want another one.
-Doesn't last long enough.


Conclusion
If these were a pill on Pill Reports these would be getting a Med rating and a 6/10. I can barely tell that this isn't an 'ecstasy' pill by today's standards, just not a real strong one. I usually have to double drop to get anything out of any pills unless they are really strong , in strength I'd probably compare them to the Orange Doves that hit Melbourne about a month ago - but maybe I'm being a bit generous.

Overall, pretty impressed. Though they don't last very long and will end up being as expensive as the real thing on a night out because you'll need more.

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I had an Estatic at about 12.30, my stomach seems to be rumbling an awful lot. I've got a real buzz going in my head.
 
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Would these release serotonin and dopamine? As I would probably use these in between rolls or if I was gonna go out 2 nights on the weekend, do they have an impact on MDMA tolerance?
 
whichever the 4MMC and most other cath products are then dopamine would stuff MDMA up and just make your floored and not loved up without any lovey feelings, just like having meth a day or two before pills does.
 
Cathinones act like amphetamines I believe, affecting dopamine transporters mainly and serotonin secondly though the analogues may be different. I personally haven't noticed meth having much of an effect on MDMA, haven't used the two within proximity much though.
 
Most people who end up abusing the two notice that you'll never get anything from MDMA anymore besides just being munted and unsocial, theres heaps of posts in the ecstasy forum about it and which people i've talked to have also said.

I blame meth abuse for my major tolerance to MDMA and MDA rather than those drugs themselves. Even weekend pilling for years I still munted out but also had energy and magic to dance around and socialise. but after abusing IV Meth pills, and md crystals/powder just never were the same.

Still to this day it takes about 200mg mdma and 150mg mda to get me rolling like one pill used to back in 2001. and I use it a few times a year only and have a very reliable source.
 
Yeah it is pretty devistating if your still into the rave or party scene.
I often wonder why 2c-i didnt kick off as its the only 2c-i where 2-5mg feels like a long MDMA-ish roll. But if you tripple dropped youd be tripping i guess!
 
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Tried the eels twice and shared with two other people. The main problem with all of the experiences is the eels were mixed with other drugs so it is difficult to really describe what effects came from which drug.

First experience I tried to snort some from a cap, found it disgusting so bombed the rest...proceeded to smoke some weed and forget I had even took it. About an hour later I found the bag of pure powder and had a small (approx 1/2 point) line of it. Within 5 minutes I felt that I was peaking, I would describe it as a very messy MDMA high. Proceeded to smoke more weed and went to bed about 10 hours later.

Slept for about 12 hours and woke up feeling horrid. I wouldn't blame the eels for that as there had been far too much drug consumption over the weekend to blame any one drug. Forced down some food and went to play some bowling with friends. After a few drinks and some speed I suddenly had the great idea to have another line of the eels, this time much larger...I'm guessing around 3 points. Within 5 minutes it was hitting hard, hitting too hard and I was honestly worried given how hard my heart was beating. I was too fucked to talk, definitely too fucked for bowling (so many gutter balls) and generally just an embarrassment.

That 'too intense' stage would have lasted about 40 minutes and was followed by a nice high that lasted probably an hour before I felt the urge to redose. The redoses were always small lines. At no point did I have any urge to drink or take more speed.

I do like the eels, but I would not go as far as my friend who compared it to MDMA. IMO the high is a lot messier, a lot shorter and lacks the empathy. Next time I will do my best to try without other drugs to get a better idea about it.
 
The powders would be full of MSM and creatine... like their supplier would tell them to do.... or it was shipped to them illegally like that.
 
Just a quick report on my experience with these so far. I have e-s and or meth most weekends so decided to try the eels, and the e*jections as they are going out for 75% off.
Last night had one of the e*jections just at home, alone, around 10:30pm. Roughly 20 mins later could definately feel something coming on, quite a rush and a decent relaxed/happy feeling. Then around another 10 or so minutes BANG!! The worst headache ive ever had in my life (i dont ever get headaches) My heart was pumping so hard that every time it pumped it felt like my head was going to explode. Only way i could slightly get rid of it was to get up and go stand outside. The actual feeling below the headache was pretty decent, very weightless and happy, but the headache overpowered. This went on for around two hours until i couldnt take it anymore and had to have a couple of panadol. I took one and threw up 10mins later. Then took another one and threw up again. I then had to stand up outside for another 1/2 hour or so before finally drifting off to sleep at around 1:30am , tossing and turning all night. Woke up this morning and feel sort of hungover/scattered.
I usually have a pretty high tolerance to most drugs but this was really strange. Do you guys think this is a normal reaction? I still have 5 more e*jections and 2 eels left. I wouldnt even want to give them to my mates if thats what happens. Although im pretty keen to try the eels as they have no DMAA in them now.

Cheers guys.
 
No im not from any other company. I have a real job thanks. I just thought people may be able to shed some light on what happened as it was quite a bad experience. I have had many other illegal drugs and this is the first time i have had anything legal. I thought people should know about it before buying . Maybe i just had a bad reaction to the DMAA. Im going to try the eels tonight.
 
I wouldnt even call DMAA a recreational substance. Ejection = ewww (probably why they are 75% off) They sent me some for free with an order once. They didnt give me a headache but didnt do a lot for me at all. None of their other products seem to compare to the eels.
 
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