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Dissociatives [DXM Subthread] First Plateau Trips

^^someone has to be the lab rat:\; still, given the ssri qualaties of kanna, seems to be a combo where the potential negatives far outweigh the positives...
 
no idea. mixing SSRI with DXM is serious business though, like, of the dieing kind.

good question. if you go through with this, post your results. especially if you nearly die -- it's likely i would find myself before this combo sometime in the future.
 
Knowledge of the pharmacology of Mesembrine is quite scarce period, but what little there is suggests that is an SSRI and is thus dangerous to combine with DXM. Subjective familiarity with a drugs effects cannot tell you whether or not it is safe to combine with something else.

What is it that you hope to achieve by taking this combination? Interestingly, you didn't mention that. Is is worth the known risk of serotonin syndrome? It sounds like they just happen to be two drugs you have around...
 
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Well, one night last year I did as I recall do some Kanna while on DXM. I don't remember if I ate it, smoked it or snorted it. I remember it actually snyergizing well and I don't remember any body load at all. Just because Kanna supposedly affects Serotonin why has it been labeled an SSRI? Sure doesn't feel like one. And don't typical SSRIs (prozac, paxil, etc) need days, weeks in your system to work whereas Kanna can give one effects from their first dose.

Didn't people try Kanna with MDMA and actually find the combo favorable and not feel a toxicity? One combo I do know is safe and euphoric is Kanna with Kratom. I wonder where Kanna would potentiate or weaken my HBW and MG...
 
Kanna isn't an SSRI. It might be sold as having SSRI-like properties but it's actually a phosphodiesterase inhibitor. I've put a fair amount of Kanna in me and I never found any worthwhile effects except when I insufflated it and that pain was on a similar level to 2C-B and the effects were short lived, but it was instant acceptance and a little bit of a loved-up MDMA feel. Okay... according to wiki it is also an SSRI. An incredibly potent one at that. Active at 100ug. All the same I took kanna (when I thought it wasn't an SSRI) with DOC and MDMA at the same time as well as on Effexor, Wellbutrin, Seroquel, and Trazadone although probably not all of those at the same time, but most of them in combination (if that makes any sense :)).

I did more looking at pde-4's and Kanna might well exert protective effects that might benefit molly munchers.

Peace,
PL
 
I tend to take Wikipedia with a grain of salt when they describe psychoactive drugs. I'm really suprised you never got anything from Kanna unless snorting it. You obviously just got weak stuff. I know a vendor with quality Kanna for real cheal ($13 an oz) and you'd prob. find a few grams orally quite pleasant. I guess mixing any strange substances with DXM is a really bad idea, as DXM is known to have dangerous interactions with numerous drugs.

Over the years I've combined DXM with: MJ, Cid, HBW, K, MG, booze, blow, adderall, ephedrine, sudafed, coffee, piracetam, dmae, lecithin, dlpa, chocamine, rhodiola, Kratom, CoQ10, ALA/ALCAR, Wormwood hash, E, Japanese Sweet Flag 5X, Amanita pantherina, Psilocybe, Wellbutrin, Xanax, Wild Dagga, Soma, and prob. quite a few other substances...

I guess you guys will think I'm a suicidal fool if I do dare to combine Kanna with DXM... Then again, people on forums talk all the time about taking DXM while on SSRI's, despite the risks. I know from personal experience that DXM feels much more toxic and less enjoyable while on Effexor or Celexa.
 
^Hmmm....maybe we need aThe Wizards Big and Dandy Pointless Combo's Thread ;) Once again, mixing Kanna with DXM is dangerous.

JUST STICK TO ONE DRUG. THAT IS THE HARM REDUCTION STANCE. PLUS STOP OPENING ALL THESE THREADS.

eek sorry for shouting.
 
Im a somewhat experienced dxm tripper. We used to do it while i was stationed in the " sand box".

The first time i tried it i was on ssri's and didnt know about seritonin synd. and ended up having a fat seizure, eyes rolling back, body twitching, not remembering shit, waking up to echos of voices calling my name.
Even after i quit the ssris's ( 3 weeks) i had a seizure the next morning.........

Being adventurous/ stupid i decided to do it one last time and drank 6 bottles of robitussin and hallucinated off my ass. Although the next morning I swore up and down to my gf that god told me to go back to church and that i had to go back into the military as soon as possible.....

Thanks god my gf talked me out of that one. lol
 
just went through most of the thread and couldnt find any "cures" or any way to lesson the hang over. Ive found on higher doses i cant walk for shit most of the day and it isnt until 16+ hours later that i can talk to people somewhat normally. When i wake up in the morning i pretty much have to play the avoid everybody i know game
 
Dark Ambience said:
Hi Guys,

I am going to try DXM - Robitussin DX 200ml bottle soon. I ordered it off the internet.

I have an exam a week from today, and I am weighing up weather I should risk trying it. What are the burn-out effects like. I am a regular drinker and can handle having a night out around exams without too much hassle, but perhaps DXM is a different story - If I don't want to bomb myself out the next day, what would be a reasonable dose?
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Hey man, dont do it. I have done dxm a few times, and especially with the first time, its a real.. dumbifier.. lol i love making up words. But yeah it really makes you thick, i felt like i had the iq of a 5 year old for like 2 weeks after doing it one time, and other times i was fine within 48 hours. I seriously had trouble spelling the simplest of words and doing the simplest math and comprehending simple english. So ya best be safe and not do it till *after* the exam.. you would fail, epically. Do it once you've finished the exams and think of it as a.. reward for doing the exams and *maybe* passing ;)
 
In other threads I've described how to lessen/eliminate the possibility of a DXM hangover. I learned how from the DXM FAQ, DXM Zine, and personal experience. The day you plan to robotrip load of on vitamins (Vitamin C and B Vitamins I view as the most useful vitamins), health supplements (CoQ10, Alpha Lipoic Acid, Lecithin) and smart drugs (like Piracetam).

I've been preloading on those health drugs for the last year and never experience DXM hangovers at all anymore. Also before you go to sleep at the end of the night, take some sedatives (Phenibut, L-Theanine, Taurine, GABA, Melatonin, Neurontin, Kava, Mulungu, Valerian or Bali Kratm) to make sure you get quality sleep since DXM sleep can be restless.
 
^I thought B vitamins, can't remember the specific one, could potentiate and really change the colour of a dissoviative trip?
 
Ok I tried it over spring break and didnt really halucinate or whatever. It just made me feel drunk at first and then I just felt WEIRD. I don't even know how else to describe it. I did it via delsym cough syrup.

So basically, how much cough syrup should i have drank to have a good time and what's it supposed to do?
 
Intravenous DXM

so DXM has really poor oral bioavailability (11% ). So if I were to IV say 15-30mg's of pure DXM HBr, then it would be equivalent to about 150-300mg's dxm orally, is that right?
 
IV DXM HBr sounds like a bad idea. While I can't immediately find any good sources, it just sounds like it would rape your body. I gotta go for now but I'll post back.

At least seek DXM HCl!
 
bagera tomorrow said:
IV DXM HBr sounds like a bad idea. While I can't immediately find any good sources, it just sounds like it would rape your body. I gotta go for now but I'll post back.

At least seek DXM HCl!
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why? as far as i know, the hydrobromide is widely used because it is the best water sovable of all DXM salts.
 
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