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Dissociatives [DXM Subthread] First Plateau Trips

First time DXM user - on ssris (i know dangerous)

I've been considering it for a while, but as i've been on anti depressents for the last year, i have not given it proper thought... (you should NOT take dxm while on ssri's, and other anti depressents)

but this week i got a cold with a nasty cough and purchased 600mg dxm, used almost half a bottle over the period of a few days (reasonably over the recomended dose, not to mention against warnings of not using it if you take anti depressents) helped the cough and felt a bit lethargic but nice.
....
My dads a doctor and he thinks i should get off the anti depressants (they are for a type of social anxirty). He's not my psychiatrist, but i do agree with him to some extent. The fact that you take them everyday and the fact that they don't really know exactly how ssri's really work (paroxetine in my case).
Plus it is making me bloody tired and somewhat emotionally flat and unorgainised (and is making me wonder if i have ADD or not).
I have been taking half a tab of valium a day also for months, but in the last few weeks, completely stopped, except on mondays for the hangover from the weekend... so ill take one if im feeling sketchy.

Anyway, i decided to use my curiosity in DXM to get me off SSRI's. Today i halved my dose to 10mg of paroxetine. i will do this for about 2 weeks then will tapper off with about 1/4 of the pill for one more week.

anyway, i got impatient (my downfall) tonight, and after dinner at home i took about 350mg of dxm. works out to be about 4mg/kg, so middle second platue.
not sure how

****among all this ramble i have a simple question: is it likely that i have caused any significant damage to my brain by taking said dosage of dxm while still on anti depressents?*****

im definetly going to try and get off anti d's so i can enjoy the holidays if you know what i mean. i don't suffer from depression so it won't be too bad.
the valium will help, i will just need to do my best to not get adddicted to the valium...
might get back on the anti d's after the holidays (2 week holiday)



ps. as i type this, my mind is fragmented because im somewhere around the 1st and 2nd platue (only just found out what those mean when i googled third-platue a few hours ago), and i keep getting images or memories of old 'meaningless' dreams. its like in the day time, a random occurance makes you remember a dream you had that night. whereas in this case, i randomly remember a dream that i had some time ago... don't know of that means anything....


pps. i suppose i havn't really said how my trip went. it's now 5 hours after, and its wearing off. i didn't halucinate, but i got nice euphoria while listening to music. also at about +3 hours, my sister came in my room and asked me to record her voice mail on her mobile. haha.
she actually said it was like i triped out when i said the radom message. (just then i remembered another dream i had a while ago, it is one where there is a large gorilla (not sure if its me or not) and im climing through trees and trees are being chopped down... haha so random do remember old dreams... sorry)
so in summary, i spent most of my trip on the internet researching dxm, so i pretty much ruined its potential but i don't mind.
oh i also took two tabs of valium (10mg total) few hours ago because i thought that reduce the risk of having a fit or something, and i took some magnesium because of some possible serotonin issues? duunno my neck is tired so thought it might help.
im just gonna go and fall asleep to music now.

peace. hope someone read this
 
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Merged into the basic DXM questions thread, as this is quite a basic concern of DXM usage. You are at very high risk of serotonin syndrome! If you've never had it before, it's horribly unpleasant and it can kill you. Please don't repeat this... honestly, just because nothing bad happened this time doesn't mean that it won't next time. Play with fire, and eventually you'll get burned.
 
ok thanks for the warning. glad i didn't have a whole bottle at once.
Im definitely going to get off my ssri's.
drug 'abuse' seems like a nice ironic excuse to do it :D
i've just woken up, don't have any real hangover, just a little tired with maybe a very slight headache.

definitely will give this another proper go when i am completely off the meds.

ps. i took it last night right after dinner. i've read through this thread, and am confused as to whether or not that wastes the dxm.
 
After months of doing other drugs other then DXM,

Here it sits.

In a mug, on my table.

I forgot how BAD IT TASTES, OH GOOD LORD.

Anytips on how to drink with out any problem?

My eye balls feel as if they are being pushed inward.

Ew.
 
Yeah I wouldn't recommend you cats use DXM while on any SSRI.... I was on Effexor years ago and Celexa years before that and with either of them I found that if I did DXM while on them (even at a low dose) it was a dirtier more dysphoric trip with a worse next day hangover. That's pretty hilarious that you'd use your desire to do DXM as an excuse to try to get off an SSRI. LOL. In general I'd say tripping is a no-no on SSRIS, whether it be tripping on dxm, a tryptamine or phenethylamine.

As far as the different otc forms of dxm...Plain ol Robitussin Maximum Strength or a generic equivalent is my #1 choice. Syrup usually costs far cheaper than gel caps or dissolvable cough strips. And I find syrup kicks in a lot faster and more strongly than gels or strips. And with syrup if I get nausea it hits all at once and I either barf or the nausea passes whereas gel cap nausea can last hrs and hrs for me and I still don't throw up (or gels will make me throw up yet the nausea doesn't stop then and I still say sick hours whereas if I barf from Tussin the nausea ends immediately).

I found dissolvable cough strips to be the absolute weakest form of DXM. I dissolved enough in my mouth to equal over 800 mg of dxm and the shit took hours and hours to kick in and never really built up to anything. It didn't even feel as strong as 4 or 500 mg of dxm in syrup form would have. So fuck those strips and fuck the gels.

If you must eat the gel's I'd say make sure you don't have much heavy foods in your stomach. Eat lightly that day and eat a little bit of pudding or ice cream before and after swallowing the gels. I find having a little bit of soft food cushions my stomach from getting as upsetted by the texture of the gels. I also wouldn't recommend swallowing all the gels at once. What works best for me is swallowing 7-10 gels at a time then waiting 5-10 minutes before swallowing more gels. And right and after I swallow each handful of gels I eat a little more pudding.

Oh also as said by others please make sure your syrup contains ONLY Dextromethorphan Hydrobromide. And yeah the guy who described Guafinesin as relatively safe I'd say is right. At the worst high doses of Guaf could cause nausea, though still why risk it when you could just get syrup that doesn't have Guaf at all. I've dranked a 4 oz bottle that contained dxm and guaf once before and got no nausea that time luckily.

And please do NOT drink syrup that contains pseudoephedrine (active ingredient in Sudafed). Yes, this stuff is relatively innocent in low doses used therapeutically but if you're chugging a bottle or 2 or 3 of Tussin laced with Psuedo that's a WHOLE LOT of Psuedo. I experienced firsthand a Pseudoephedrine overdose many many years ago. I'd stupidly drank 4 or 5 four oz bottles of tussin laced with pseusoephedrine. The reason I drank so many bottles is it was a generic tussin that had much less dxm per bottle than Robitussin brand. I must have had thousands and thousands of milligrams of pseudo total and had repeated seizures that night.

Oh, also don't mess with DXM Polystirex. This is a special extended release form of DXM found in products like Delsym. If you look at the DXM FAQ and other online sources of DXM info you'll find that Polystirex is a lot more harmful to the body than regular DXM. It isn't healthy that Polystirex hangs around in your body much, much longer than regular DXM. Also, Deslysm will never give you as strong and clean a peak as regular DXM and you'll have a much nastier hangover.

Lastly, remember that you can always potentiate what would normally be a weak dose of DXM by preloading for a few hours on grapefruit juice (at least a glass or 2 an hr) and then partaking in some MJ during your robo trip. This combination might be able to bring you considerably closer to the next plateau.

Good luck Tussinauts...
 
I'm sorry, I'm not new here, but I'm a bit new to the whole drug thing. Is is possible that someone could tell me how to hypothetically extract DXM from any household stuff for my personal knowledge only? Heh =D
 
DM CoughGels, extraction recommended?

Hi, I'm looking at doing about a 200mg dose of DXM.

I plan on using Robitussin DM CoughGels ( active ingredients: Dextromethorphan HBr, 15 mg). Since it isn't a high dose do you think I should at all extract it (using the microwave/sucrets method), or are they fine to just eat like they come?
 
Moonfog said:
Hi, I'm looking at doing about a 200mg dose of DXM.

I plan on using Robitussin DM CoughGels ( active ingredients: Dextromethorphan HBr, 15 mg). Since it isn't a high dose do you think I should at all extract it (using the microwave/sucrets method), or are they fine to just eat like they come?
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Can you explain the microwave/sucrets method to me? I might want to try it.
I always took them whole but the amount of gel from the gel caps can get your stomach upset in high doses and so can dxm so I try to limit that as much as possible. If I were you, I would just eat them because it's such a low dose but maybe you should ask yourself the question "How lazy am I?"
 
Aeon Psyche said:
Can you explain the microwave/sucrets method to me? I might want to try it.
I always took them whole but the amount of gel from the gel caps can get your stomach upset in high doses and so can dxm so I try to limit that as much as possible. If I were you, I would just eat them because it's such a low dose but maybe you should ask yourself the question "How lazy am I?"
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http://www.dextroverse.org/txt/sucretextract1.txt
 
the gels work really well as they are, and the side effects from them are minimal (mild stomach ache like you ate way too much candy). at 200mg you won't have any problems accept itching i would think.

it would be a real nuisance to use them as starting material for an extraction. just try them and see what you think. decide if you like dxm, and from there you can invest more time and money into refining it.

if you want to do an extraction, i suggest starting with the delsym water separation as it's very safe and easy, and yields great results most of the time.
 
The Wizard said:
Yeah I wouldn't recommend you cats use DXM while on any SSRI.... I was on Effexor years ago and Celexa years before that and with either of them I found that if I did DXM while on them (even at a low dose) it was a dirtier more dysphoric trip with a worse next day hangover.

Lastly, remember that you can always potentiate what would normally be a weak dose of DXM by preloading for a few hours on grapefruit juice (at least a glass or 2 an hr) and then partaking in some MJ during your robo trip. This combination might be able to bring you considerably closer to the next plateau.

Good luck Tussinauts...
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I wonder where my overwhelming euphoria is, but 150 mg Efexor is maybe too much.
I feel good for maybe 2 hours, then it fades away and I feel almost dysphoric.
Fucking serotonin meds.
 
200 mg of DXM isn't even a whole bottle of cough gels and for me it would be pretty easy to swallow less than 20 gels. If you did an extraction you'd likely lose some DXM and 200 mg isnt much to begin with so you shouldn't risk wasting any of the precious DXM.

Just make sure you don't have much food in your stomach the day you do the cough gels. I prefer having a little bit of pudding in my stomach when I swallow the gels to having no food at all.

An alternative way to take cough gels is throw them all in a blender with some beverage and set the blender on grind 30 seconds or a minute (until you seek all the capsules have been broken into pieces. If you blend it too long the capsules will have been ground into tiny pieces so only set it on grind for a little bit and closely watch it. Now that your capsules are ground into pieces you can easily separate them from your liquid by pouring the contents of the blender through a metal strainer (and all the gelatin pieces stick to the strainer). Now if you did it right you'll be left with only liquid and can discard the chunks of gelatin. The less liquid you use with this recipe the better as itll be lesss for you to have to chug.
 
I visited...I believe the site was Dextroverse and read their method of extracting DXM powder from sucrets lozenges. My question is could you extract DXM powder from other pills in tablet form using roughly the same method, or a different one? I know you couldn't use Coricidin, that's obvious, as it contains other chemicals. I was wondering about ones such as Mucinex that contain only DXM and Guaifenisin. Or do you have any other suggestions?
 
Is the dizziness that a lot of users report any worse than just being really drunk?
 
Why do people get so itchy on dxm (any specific reason based on how it works?), and is this something that one shouldn't at all worry about if it happens?
 
^Histamine/immuno response most likely. It should only be concerning really if hives or blothes break out on the skin, a rash or uneven and abstract breathing (think: shock); the same with most rapid allergic responses. That is why some people take DXM with an anithystamine. That will reduce itchiness but with enzyme interaction, could prove dangerous or overwhelming as metabolism of DXM will be slower- thus more damaging and most liely a bad idea. Its the same deal with opiates, for me at least (I have never taken DXM and never will)- scatchy, itchy, tearavle skin but nothing really works to relieve it.

I really dislike the whole concept of DXM. Its a suckers game in some ways. Take care guys/gals.
 
DXM aftermath

Well i did DXM for the first time ever yesterday.. i only did half a bottle of robbo dx and then spewed within the first hour twice. I had a terrible time and kept having panic attacks cus im a wus i guess. It just felt like being drunk realy with a few other negative asspects

Its now the next day and i still have had a head ache for most the day its night now. That cud be cus i had little sleep after the high.

Also iv had a tight chest that i think went away after eating which i had trouble doing.

Is any of this normal? personaly i dont think ill do dxm let alone any other drugs every again.
 
There are some fantastic drugs out there. Don't let DXM scare you away from them. DXM blows.
 
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