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Eye

Eye

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I'm new to Bluelight and thought I'd introduce myself to the psychedelic folk here.
I'm 46 yrs old and have been experimenting with substances for as long as I can remember. My partner and I are both former drinkers. I was physically addicted to alcohol, and getting sober has been the hardest challenge of my life. I will have four years of sobriety (from alcohol) in March (thanks to SMART Recovery), and my partner is approaching her third year marker. I'm a substance abuse counselor and she is in training to do the same. We both have bachelor's degrees in psychology, and I have one in English as well.

I have used LSD many times in my younger years and tried psilocybin twice. The experiences were good if a bit speedy. I like to read about and research substances thoroughly. I think we have a rather arbitrarily placed line between food and chemicals. We all manipulate neurotransmitters every day. The smart thing is to do it thoughtfully.

We have been using a lot of DXM in these last three months, and I've got to say it's been a miracle drug for both of us. We both had a whole lot of psychological baggage in our heads that had been hidden away for years. My issues related to my mother (passive-aggressive, emotionally punishing), who was herself damaged by her mentally ill mother. My partner was sexually abused as a child. We were treading water, waiting to die, but in the last three months we've stopped trying to sleep our lives away.

It's a whole new world. I want to share this with you.
 
I'm glad that your DXM trips are helping you, this substance has great potential if used sensibly.

When you say you've been using it alot, how often do you mean ?

Anything more than once a week is too much, and ideally you should only dose once a month if not waiting longer inbetween experiences. Be careful with this one, It will bite you back if you over due it. I'm sure your aware of the dangers, but I just figured I'd bring them up. This chemical can cause brain damage if used heavily for prolonged periods of time. I just want you and your wife to be careful. It's best to treat DXM as a rare treat, you'll be able to reap the most rewards that way.

L<3Ve & Lite

~Charlie
 
Eye said:
Anyone know anybody who has seriously damaged themselves?
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Ive personally seen friends mess themselves up bad by using too much DXM.

They were daily users and became delusional, depressed and disconnected from reality.

I'm not saying don't take DXM, just don't be foolish about it.
 
Always good to hear of people discovering the remarkable benefits of these compounds (NMDA antagonists I mean), though I did find DXM the least interesting of those I tried. If you have a source I'd think about acquiring some ketamine, or maybe one of the novel PCP analogues as I subjectively find them (or the couple I've tried) a much richer experience that retains all the benefits and the same essential character of DXM.

I'm sure you've figured this out but the danger with these compounds lies in effortless, instantly-accesible and total escapism that, initially and to me at least, feels like heaven. Doubtless there are people out there who have fucked themselves over big time with dissociatives but, in my admittedly limited and hubristic experience, I don't see why you or I shouldn't continue to reap the benefits of sensible recreational/therapeutic use of these drugs for many years to come.


peace, love and dissociation.

ps somebody correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think there's been a single recorded instance of an Olney's lesion in a human, or for that matter any higher primate. Maybe no-one's looked hard enough though.
 
I've probably taken DXM once a week for about 4 months, with my doses usually around the 540mg-720mg (6oz-8oz mark). I've seen no ill effects personally, but my tolerance is pretty high. I could take 720mg of DXM and still feel completely confident that I would be able to drive (And usually if I get high off of marijuana I'll let a sober friend drive, not that I support drinking cough syrup or driving).

If you know of any way to reduce tolerance (I've taken several week T-Breaks to no avail) please let me know
 
With frequent (daily or every other day I think) DXM use, there seems to be the possibility of experiencing SSRI discontinuation syndrome when stopping or with missed doses. I've seen a few posters here who used DXM that frequently describe effects similar to it. It probably isn't difficult to deal with if you know what it is (slowly reduce DXM dose, or get a prescription for Prozac and slowly reduce dose of *that*). But there do seem to be possible ill effects even if you can psychologically handle use that frequent without going a little crazy. This probably doesn't apply to other dissociatives; they seem to be dopamine reuptake inhibitors rather than serotonin-norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors like DXM.
 
I have another friend who swears by DXM, and it's amazing psychedelic properties. I haven't tried it yet, as I have been a bit scared off of psyches recently (next trip is in about a month, though), due to an opiate addiction. This is another point for that, so I will probably have to try this in the coming months.

If you like the properties of that, Ketamine is another great option, if you can find it decently. It is very similar and different (I hear), but it is one of my favorite substances on the planet.
 
Glad to hear that you have experienced so many benefits :) I have heard of people running into problems with frequent/daily use. I went through a period of using DXM frequently but it was quite short, and now I no longer enjoy it.

Just be conscientious and honest with yourself if ever you notice that it is doing more harm than good :)
 
I've been using it a few times a week for about six months. We were taking the tablets with Guaifenesin and were very dehydrated. I have found I tend to crave it right now, so I think it would be wise to scale back further, perhaps to once per week or biweekly. We take about a gram at a time, but that dosage is relatively new as we are building a tolerance for it. I'm far more concerned about addiction than brain damage, frankly. The side effects of Guaifenesin kept our usage in check.

Any drug that manipulates neurochemicals will necessarily cause a rebound effect if high doses are abruptly halted. Anhedonia appears in opiate users, methamphetamine users, alcohol users, etc. There are amino acids that can be ingested to help ward off some of that. I understand that I will be troubled for a little while if I use too much too often and need to stop. That is indeed a danger of having it so immediately available. We are considering moving to another form that is not so readily available because it is more cost effective.

I will look into any suggestions you might have for safer and less readily available chemicals.
 
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A few times a week at 1000mg a dose is a little excessive for DXM despite how comfortable you may feel with these doses. That's definitely in the range where you're building a tolerance too fast and as you said, start to get a craving for it. I would definitely scale back and maybe even discontinue use for a couple of weeks and start back with less dosing and maybe closer to 750-800 mg if you personally find the higher dosages beneficial if you decide to stick with this regimen. Everyone is different and maybe you and your partner are better suited to your current regimen, but as someone who has only dabbled a few times recreationally, that sounds like quite a bit.
 
IME, PCP and DXM are like the evil trashy twins of Ketamine and Nitrous, as far as dissociatives go. I understand that people react differently to chemicals, but the first two have always seemed "dirtier" and "darker" to me than K and N2O, if that makes any sense.

Ketamine, even if intensely dissociating, always leaves me feeling clean afterwards. Doesn't apply to DXM... (at least for me). Plus, it gives me epic gas (DXM), although that could be the nasty syrup or tablets it's in. I've never seen or tried it as pure crystals.
 
Visitor Q said:
IME, PCP and DXM are like the evil trashy twins of Ketamine and Nitrous, as far as dissociatives go. I understand that people react differently to chemicals, but the first two have always seemed "dirtier" and "darker" to me than K and N2O, if that makes any sense.

Ketamine, even if intensely dissociating, always leaves me feeling clean afterwards. Doesn't apply to DXM... (at least for me). Plus, it gives me epic gas (DXM), although that could be the nasty syrup or tablets it's in. I've never seen or tried it as pure crystals.
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I don't know that I would put DXM on the side of PCP versus the side of Ketamine, and I most certainly wouldn't say that Nitrous is less "dirty". You're talking about abusing cough syrup vs. abusing whipped cream canisters and saying one is better than the other. I prefer not to look at it like that at all. I used to use Robogels for DXM but more recently I've been able to acquire the actual freebase and I must say that without all of the filler of cough syrup, DXM by itself is actually a very spiritual experience for me, almost shamanic.
 
This sounds like a lot of DXM, if you are able to reduce your frequency that may be a good thing. I would have suggested pure powder but you seem to think that it is the syrup that is preventing you from consuming more. K does seem cleaner as mentioned above but it is also shorter acting and easy to overuse.

Either way, in my opinion if a particular substance is actually benefiting us, then we should not feel better only during the high or the afterglow. If you are using several times a week you may simply feel better because you are mostly under the influence of the drug. I'm not judging this, and maybe that is what you needed, but you would probably need to reduce your frequency to see if you have any lasting benefits or just return to baseline.
 
^You said that already.

OP, you're lucky you enjoy DXM as much as you do. It's said that only 1/3 of people who try it like it enough to do again. A lot of people will tell you it's a shitty drug. I don't understand why people keep telling DXM users this when liking it or not is simply a matter of how different people's bodies process it.

In any case, I'm happy it's been helping you. I would suggest seeking out something like 4-AcO-DMT. You said you've used mushrooms when you were younger, which contain a very closely related active chemical called 4-ho-DMT. I'm of the opinion that older more mature people stand a lot more to gain from psychedelics than the young. If you haven't read it, click here to see the John Hopkin's psilocybin study.

Like the 3 out of 5 people participating in that study who experienced mystical states after using the drug, you are further along in life and clearly have goals you're working towards in using these drugs. Nowhere near as many teenagers have the kinds of experiences the committed and spiritually earnest people participating in that study did. Your interest in psychology is another sign that you may benefit highly from returning to psychedelics. If you've changed since your youth, then you'll likely find the experience has developed into something new as well.
 
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I don't know that I would put DXM on the side of PCP versus the side of Ketamine, and I most certainly wouldn't say that Nitrous is less "dirty". You're talking about abusing cough syrup vs. abusing whipped cream canisters and saying one is better than the other. I prefer not to look at it like that at all. I used to use Robogels for DXM but more recently I've been able to acquire the actual freebase and I must say that without all of the filler of cough syrup, DXM by itself is actually a very spiritual experience for me, almost shamanic.
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You're reading me all wrong. First, I never mentioned "abusing whipped cream canisters". Abusing anything is a bad idea... even water or apples.

Also, I said ketamine *feels* cleaner *to me* and I never said any dissociative is "better" than another.

Please pay more attention next time.
 
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