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dxm /klonopins /concerta / cannabis - various exp - this weekends drug binge!

nope i use dxm only products every time and methylphenidate isnt an amphetamine. dude im a bluelighter, i know my shit. i know it was a dick move, but still.
 
Holy shit youve made over 30 posts or what ever your a grown up! If you dont have a degree in psychology, chemsitry, or the like you probably dont know your shit. Im in my second year in chemistry, and I dont know my shit yet, but I know alot. I do love youre "im 15 and know everything routine" classic. I had it my self!

But sorry Methylphenidate is totally in the amphetamine class look at the structure http://www.erowid.org/cgi-bin/chem_compare/chem_compare.cgi?LM=_ch_amphetamines_ia_amphetamine_2d.gif&RM=_ph_methylphenidate_ia_methylphenidate_2d.gif you know your shit remember.

Im just trying to tell you to be careful and learn as much as you can about what your doing because whether or not you think so it is very serious. It really was not that bad in the sceme of things, look at what Juicy jay and Growfth do! It just seems that thats the direction your headed and I want you to learn from me and everyone at bluelight .But your only 15 and have a lot to learn. Thats all im saying. just be careful be careful be careful please!
 
its says that it has the amphetamine backbone but there are differences. Such as the oxygen bouble bonded to the carbon and a few other things but thats like saying methamphetamine is not an amphetamine because they dont look exactly alike. Or that lsd is not a phenethylamine because it has a tryptamine backbone in it as well.
 
Idi0tequ3 said:
who said it made me cool, this where you share your expierences. I do drugs becuase i enjoy them, probably same thing with all of us. im not a douche like that. first of all id idtn steal from my freind i stole from his mom, who didnt need the kpins either. i still do uppers even though im bad with them becuase i lik ethem. its not liek i get violent or anything, i just mean tthat its obvious when im ont hem and the comedown is harsh for me. thanks for the advice, but id rather not take it. why do you think this was considered a binge for me? the only time i can get pills is when i steal them most of the time. like you said, im 15 years old. i dont have hookups becuase i just moved here, dont pull that trying to be cool shit either with me man. you shouldnt of commented on my TRIP REPORT, im soryr if you dont approve of my ways, but also you dont knwo shit about my drug use. this isnt everyday behavior for me bro.
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This isn't everyday behavior...now. As you say you don't have many hook-ups and you're only 15. The point I think other posters were making earlier was that if you're not careful you're going to have a drug problem by the end of HS, simple as that.

I would watch out on the stealing aspect too, that might follow you as you get older. You don't want to get a rep of being a thief.
 
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its says that it has the amphetamine backbone but there are differences. Such as the oxygen bouble bonded to the carbon and a few other things but thats like saying methamphetamine is not an amphetamine because they dont look exactly alike. Or that lsd is not a phenethylamine because it has a tryptamine backbone in it as well.
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actually methylphenidate is not an amphetamine, just like cocaine is not an amphetamine. cocaine, amphetamines, and methylphenidate are all stimulants, however. amphetamines and methylphenidate have different modes of action. i don't feel like going and looking up the exact specifics, but basically methylphenidate blocks the transporter which takes dopamine back into neurons, thus leaving the dopamine in the synapse for longer while amphetamine actually goes inside the neuron and causes more dopamine to be released by some manipulation of the ion channels.
 
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well if i paint a white horse with black stripes does that make it a zebra?

ok that was a dumb joke, but the point is i guess the grouping is done by how they function rather than by their chemical structure. what i said in the last post still goes (we just went over this in my neurobiology and addiction class which i am taking from the man who used to be the head of nimh.) methylphenidate is not an amphetamine. methylphenidate and cocaine both block the dopamine transporter protein from transporting dopamine back into the neuron while amphetamines go into the neurons and manipulate ion channels to release more dopamine into the synapse.
 
i know methylphenidate doesnt show up on the nida 5 test either because i got one the day after i did ritalin.
 
I'm brand-spanking new to Bluelight and yours was the first thing I came on to read. Long, but it was a fun read. In fact, I already have 4 or 5 concerta I bought from a friend. I think I'm going to grab some Zicam on the way home and see what kind of fun I can have.
 
PRetty bad Idea, This is the worst thing to read as a first BL experience and Im disappointed that this report is all you got out of us, we have much more depth than this Did you even read the responses?? PLease write a Trip Report so we can all lecture you on how stupid it was for you do mimic this report, really there is so much more to Bluelight than getting wasted.

Seriously just take the concerta. Its much safer, dont take Zicam for recreation EVER
 
Ok, from a pharmacologist (in training):
Methylphenidate is not an amphetamine. It nevertheless has a method of action similar to that of the amphetamines, that being dopamine and norepinephrine reuptake inhibition.
This means that the combination of this and DXM may be dangerous. Not quite as much as DXM + amphetamine, because most of the amphetamines are VMAT2-mediated DA + NE releasers in addition to reuptake inhibitors, making the buildup of neurotransmitters more severe (and this is why they feel more powerful, taken normally, too).

Anyway my lesson is just because something doesn't share the structural features of something else, doesn't mean it won't have similar effects - it COULD - not it's not necessitated. The method of action is really what we're interested in when we're trying to determine whether interactions will take place.

Overall I would say DXM + methylphenidate isn't really that dangerous a combination because the main danger with DXM combinations is the risk of Serotonin Syndrome due to it's 5-HT reuptake inhibition effects, and methylphenidate has very little effect on 5-HT levels.
This is all an aside because the OP is a 15 year old getting horrendously fucked up on all matters of things, stealing medications etc. (Hoping I don't look all high horse-riding here, because i'm currently 18 turning 19, so only a few years older (but they sure make a lot of difference), but I had far more self respect than that at 15 years of age =/... to the OP: I suggest you take things easier bud.)
 
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MAtt, I was looking at it purely on chemical structure as IM a Biochemist (In training) and I realize its not a amphetamine, though the reason its dangerous is because it was a 15 year old, and IM disaapointed in the new guys post because that this thread was the first thing he saw, and Bluelight has so much more!

And geez, I was under the impression you were a bit older matt, you gots a long way to go before yer a Pharmacologist! thats like 9 years away. HAve you taken orgo?
 
Beenhead: Yeah I realise you would have said it was an amphetamine for that reason, that's cool.
And yeah, totally, BL indeed does have so much more! It would be sad if someone used this thread as their impression of Bluelight :( .
You have PM too.
 
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