DXM experiences?

[growit&smokeit]

Delerium definitey doesn't appeal to me, but the dissociative or stimulatory and possibly hallucinatory effects do. I've read about the 'plateaus' - I don't think I'd want to go beyond the second plateau




as far as I can see on the Asda site none of their cough syrups contain DXM, so maybe they discontinued them. Only one I can find is Benelyn Dry




Have you tried Morning Glory or Hawaiian Baby Woodrose? Did they survive the 2016 NPS act

Have done both, Hawaiian baby wood rose is much more preferable but doubt you can buy them from uk sites now. As Morning glory seeds an ornamental plant they are sold pretty much everywhere seeds are sold. Some are supposedly treated with chemicals though. I had mixed luck extracting them. Eating the seeds raw is more effective but has much more negative effects like legs cramps and red eyes. I wouldn’t bother trying them to be honest. Hbw are worth it though.

 

[Forever Changes]

Too much hassle mate. Wait for autumn, pick a shit load of liberty caps then proceed to lose your mind.


That shit is mental...

Yeah probably, but I'd have to get to a place where they grow and be able to find them. I will research into that.

In the meantime I might try growing my own if I can get the spores and proper kit, although will that be so time consuming that I might as well wait for autumn?

I'm also pretty jittery/nervous about keeping/growing Class A's in my home

 

[Forever Changes]

Have done both, Hawaiian baby wood rose is much more preferable but doubt you can buy them from uk sites now. As Morning glory seeds an ornamental plant they are sold pretty much everywhere seeds are sold. Some are supposedly treated with chemicals though. I had mixed luck extracting them. Eating the seeds raw is more effective but has much more negative effects like legs cramps and red eyes. I wouldn’t bother trying them to be honest. Hbw are worth it though.

According to Erowid, Hawaiian Baby Woodrose is legal and uncontrolled in the UK, although that may have changed since the NPS act: https://erowid.org/plants/hbw/hbw_law.shtml

EDIT: just checked and HBW seeds appear to be freely available to buy from several sites

 

[Forever Changes]

Appears that DXM tablets/capsules can only be had from the USA or other countries.

But that raises a quandary - would importing them into the UK be a legal grey area since DXM as cough syrup is 100% legal but the capsules might not be?

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

HBWR are LSA.
They will fuck up your stomach.

I sadly have no idea about spores, I've not had any shrooms in a while. I did enough tripping on them to learn what they had to teach me, several hundred trips later the Alan Watts quote came to me "Once you got the message hang up the phone"

Tripping can take you very far, the real trick is to bring the lessons into normal (sober) life. Like Ken Kesey said "Time to go beyond acid"
It's why I'm deeply into certain Hindu concepts if I'm honest about it.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

The last trip I had was several years ago when I smoked N,N-DMT.

 

[Forever Changes]

HBWR are LSA.
They will fuck up your stomach.

I sadly have no idea about spores, I've not had any shrooms in a while. I did enough tripping on them to learn what they had to teach me, several hundred trips later the Alan Watts quote came to me "Once you got the message hang up the phone"

Tripping can take you very far, the real trick is to bring the lessons into normal (sober) life. Like Ken Kesey said "Time to go beyond acid"
It's why I'm deeply into certain Hindu concepts if I'm honest about it.

I want to microdose initially and see how that goes with regards my mood and motivation. Then maybe in the future mild tripping - I have no desire to get totally out of my head or fucked up, my youthful (naive) hippie days are long gone. But shrooms aren't easy to come by (for me at least) and neither is DMT

Peyote is legal in UK - have you ever tried that?

And you wouldn't recommend HBWR?

 

[Jabberwocky]

Like others have said there seems to be a genetic component to DXM.

Personally I can't stand the stuff, I wouldn't even take it if I was desperate. It's very dysphoric and dirty feeling. Not as bad as DPH, though. It's not a deliriant.

Others seem to like it and even get addicted to it... but that seems strange to me.

I do sometimes enjoy adding a smallish dose around 100-150mg to psychedelics like LSD. Potentiates psychedelics a lot, can go quite deep. Be wary doing this, though. Not for casual trippers.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Have done both, Hawaiian baby wood rose is much more preferable but doubt you can buy them from uk sites now. As Morning glory seeds an ornamental plant they are sold pretty much everywhere seeds are sold. Some are supposedly treated with chemicals though. I had mixed luck extracting them. Eating the seeds raw is more effective but has much more negative effects like legs cramps and red eyes. I wouldn’t bother trying them to be honest. Hbw are worth it though.

I've done both several times and highly prefer MG seeds over HBWR.

The main difference I've noticed is MG seeds produce more stomach issues, but HBWR produces worse vasoconstriction. The latter has always been worse for me.

Getting fresh seeds is important, and you don't want seeds with pesticides either.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

I want to microdose initially and see how that goes with regards my mood and motivation. Then maybe in the future mild tripping - I have no desire to get totally out of my head or fucked up, my youthful (naive) hippie days are long gone. But shrooms aren't easy to come by (for me at least) and neither is DMT

Peyote is legal in UK - have you ever tried that?

And you wouldn't recommend HBWR?

Done 3C-E aka Escaline but that's as close as I've got.
I'd very much like to do Peyote just to see how it compares to 3C-E.

I'd try HBWR, I can't really say much bad about it apart from the bad stomach but I've had far worse stomach issues when I boofed 70mg of 4-HO-MET.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Personally I can't stand the stuff, I wouldn't even take it if I was desperate. It's very dysphoric and dirty feeling

This 100%

 

[Forever Changes]

I've done both several times and highly prefer MG seeds over HBWR.

The main difference I've noticed is MG seeds produce more stomach issues, but HBWR produces worse vasoconstriction. The latter has always been worse for me.

Getting fresh seeds is important, and you don't want seeds with pesticides either.

do you find either like Psilocybin? or Peyote?

 

[Jabberwocky]

do you find either like Psilocybin? or Peyote?

It's like LSD. I've had a few good experiences with visuals on par with LSD.

I've found cannabis is basically required to bring out it's potential.

One time I took l like 600 MG seeds, got on a plane. Everyone had tribal tattoos and there were snakes on the floor. Then I got lost in the airport for an hour when I landed.

I do not recommend going to the airport.

I've found it has particularly cool CEVs, and one time I even had a very euphoric pulsation through my body while listening to music.

It's a decent high, but the body load is rough.

 

[Forever Changes]

Come to think of it, the 2016 NPS Act bans by default anything 'psychoactive' with the exemption of foodstuffs, medical products or anything already illegal.

Kratom and Salvia are covered by the ban, yet HBWR, Morning Glory and Peyote aren't.... that's totally inconsistent.

 

[axe battler]

I tried HBW both as the whole seeds and in these capsules called purple ohms back when legal highs were...legal. Every time was followed by half an hour of feeling mildly trippy, then 3 hours of puking and shitting whilst tripping. Horrible, but friends who had the same thing we're ok so seems like I'm sensitive to the nausea ZB mentioned.

 

[matt<3ketamine]

Anybody tried Benilyn dry cough syrup, which I gather is still OTC in the UK? I guess it didn't fall foul of the NPS Act. What was it like?

id thought it was like a drunken sloppy kind of 'high', when compared to the likes of ketamine or MXE etc, theres much better options out there and better money spent n fun had on those than some cough syrup IME

 

[plumbus-nine]

DXM is not a delirant, this is a common misconception maybe because of the similar acronym to DPH which is often used together with DXM to lower nausea but they couldn't be more different as drugs. DXM is a dissociative, like ketamine and PCP (yeah, that angel dust one. Hint, you don't automagically turn into a flesh eating zombie by using dissociatives).

I agree to that DXM is one of the dirtier dissociatives because it's also a SNRI but I loved it as a teen, specially in lower dosages 75-300mg and did it daily for months. It's a nice antidepressant and since last year even officially approved for that indication (albeit on a combo together with bupropion).

 

[Foreigner]

I accidentally got high on DXM extra strength cough syrup a month ago during an undiagnosed chest infection. I just could not suppress the cough and hadn't slept in 30 hours. In frustration I kept dosing the syrup over and over.

Lo and behold I started tripping. It was at night. There was a lot of visual snow that got denser and denser until it looked like white pixelation. The pixelation started to take on various forms, some with images that made sense and others not. The dissociative effect was moderate, I was observing myself doing things but I was still functional. I actually didn't enjoy the high all that much. I felt uncomfortable looking in the mirror, like I was seeing another person and had to keep reminding myself that the person I was looking at was me. It creeped me out slightly. Then I went into a lazy version of my Vedanta practice which basically looked like, "Well, you know that's not the real you anyway, so who cares."

I shifted gears into watching a movie, but I was very aware that it was a recording and not real people, so it made it hard to really immerse myself in the story. I was just so fucking tired but because I couldn't sleep I was ironically pissed off that I couldn't just re-immerse myself in Samara to take my mind off things. Go figure.

And would you believe, while I was tripping I was STILL fucking coughing my face off.

 

[plumbus-nine]

Yeah, the pixelation is a symptom of a disso being active and DXM exhibits it even more. The thing of not recognizing yourself in the mirror is special to DXM imho, never got it with other dissos but on plateau 3 of dxm I just saw a weird meat creature staring at me. Was indeed weird.

And DXM is indeed not the best cough suppressant, I think opioids are better. I, too, discovered the lower plateaus while dosing higher and higher due to a cough and suddenly stuff began to be euphoric, specially music and movement.

But it seems like there is a wide variety of how individuals react to DXM or to dissociatives in general, some like me find them profoundly euphoric and addictive while others, maybe even the majority, doesn't. I think I'm specially prone to dissociatives because my natural state is very attached with anxiety, recurring thoughts, dysphoria etc , the opposite of what dissos induce for me. But I over-/abused them and had to quit for quite a while. I'm tempted to buy some DXM but my gf doesn't want me to...

I remember seeing serotonergic like fractals but with more pronounced violet back in my teens when I discovered the drug but then I got put on SSRI and should never get visuals again.