Opioids DXM and Hydrocodone to get the Vicodin Magic back..?

[MusicGuy]

I lost the "magic" with Vicodin. The first couple dozen highs were blissful and lasted hours. Now I barely feel it and it barely lasts 2 hours no matter how much I take. I figure if I take a small dose of DXM (30mg) it might cut my tolerance back and bring back the magic? What does bluelight think?

 

[laCster]

it will help, but it will only go so far. don't expect much...time is the best answer

 

[MusicGuy]

it will help, but it will only go so far. don't expect much...time is the best answer

I've only had it twice in the past year.

 

[DustnRoses]

oh how I yearn for that feeling I had the first few times I ever had opiates.....feels like I've been chasing that feeling ever since. Hey wait a minute...

 

[laCster]

the same thing that happened with Hydrocodone, will happen with DXM. in addition, DXM is a extremely weak opiate. its effects come from multiple mechanisms of action such as being a SNRI, NMDA-antagonist, sigma-1 receptor agonist, nicotinic receptor antagonist, NADPH oxidase inhibitor, and DXM possesses weak MOR affinity.

NMDA-antagonism has also been shown to stop the onset, and reverse tolerance

 

[MusicGuy]

Alright well how about Benadryl..?

 

[tannypack101]

if find dxm has synergy at low levels, like 60-100mg

 

[monkeyemergency]

The NMDA fx of low dose dxm can enhance how enjoyable your experience is, but it changes the buzz a bit. The only way to get the 'magic' you seek back is escalation of opioid dose or taking a long break. But if you have only had it twice in a year it cant be due to tolerance, maybes vikes just aren't your thing? Do you dose other opiate/oids often?

 

[Opiates4lyfe]

I agree with monkeyemergency maybe you should try a different pill. The reality is that you will most likely not receive that "magical" feeling that we all love and yearn for from our first couple of times. Perhaps try mixing those vikes with some cannabis for a great feeling.

 

[MusicGuy]

The NMDA fx of low dose dxm can enhance how enjoyable your experience is, but it changes the buzz a bit. The only way to get the 'magic' you seek back is escalation of opioid dose or taking a long break. But if you have only had it twice in a year it cant be due to tolerance, maybes vikes just aren't your thing? Do you dose other opiate/oids often?

Vics WERE my thing.. they were... well, magic. I guess I should try Oxycodone. I tried 12.5mg tonight and the buzz was alright, it included a lot of dizziness. If I take anymore than 15mg I end up violently throwing up for several hours. There also isn't really an increase in the euphoria or the high, not any that should be noted. It was fun while it lasted, I've come to the conclusion that it's time to move on.

The only other opiates I've had in the past year are 2 seasons of taking less than 100mg of Codeine, I'm an "upper" person although I did enjoy my first couple dozen Vicodin highs. Thoroughly enjoyed them in fact. It should be noted that Vicodin nor Codeine does much of anything for me if I have pain...

 

[monkeyemergency]

Oh well i suppose it would be best to move on

 

[Opiates4lyfe]

Vics WERE my thing.. they were... well, magic. I guess I should try Oxycodone. I tried 12.5mg tonight and the buzz was alright, it included a lot of dizziness. If I take anymore than 15mg I end up violently throwing up for several hours.

Did you take this with some food on your stomach? that could help.

 

[ErgicMergic]

At this point, you can either chase the high (higher doses of hydrocodone, moving on to oxycodone, etc.), and risk becoming more and more addicted psychologically, or you can cash your chips and walk away clean.

Or, you can buy Kratom. A fat dose of Kratom is more euphoric than 10-15mg hydro/oxy, and is not as addicting, for reasons I cannot fathom.
Even doing 10mg hydro will have me runny nosed (I'm dependent at the moment) the next day, but Kratom barely does that. It is far more forgiving if you stick to under 6-8 grams of it.

 

[Seattle_Stranger]

At this point, you can either chase the high (higher doses of hydrocodone, moving on to oxycodone, etc.), and risk becoming more and more addicted psychologically, or you can cash your chips and walk away clean.

Or, you can buy Kratom. A fat dose of Kratom is more euphoric than 10-15mg hydro/oxy, and is not as addicting, for reasons I cannot fathom.
Even doing 10mg hydro will have me runny nosed (I'm dependent at the moment) the next day, but Kratom barely does that. It is far more forgiving if you stick to under 6-8 grams of it.

Beat me to it.

I highly recommend giving kratom a go. It will be slightly different than a typical vicodin high, however you might actually like it more, seeing how you say you're "an upper guy". Kratom can have stimulating effects similar to caffeine without the jitters and sweating. I absolutely love having some kratom in the morning before work, it makes the day extremely fun, interesting, productive and fatigue is non-existent.

If that doesn't work, I would try ONE more thing. Find some percocet. Not oxycontin, or anything snortable, just a couple 5mg percs. Try taking 2 and see how you feel. If 10mg doesn't do it, try another 5mg. If nothing still, then my friend it is time to put the opiates on the shelf, because you're one of the few people who they don't work for.

I say don't get any snortable oxycodone, because I promise you, if you find out that oxycodone actually works for you, every little bit of it that you have will go straight up your nose that night and you'll find yourself fiending for more before you know it. Opioids are no joke, and it may be a blessing in disguise that they aren't working for you.