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(DXM/ 800mg) - First Time - Dissociative Sensations & Aftereffects

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DXM Trip Report.
User:
Male, 6 Foot 1 Inch,
78kg weight
19 years old
First Time Useage.
Doseage Just under 800mg Administered Througout 2 hours.


+++ IMPORTANT NOTES +++

- Just under 2 weeks before, I rolled hard on MDMA , 250mg Approx.
- Has experience with other drugs such as Speed, MDMA, Cannabis, Ketamine (k holed before)



Thursday


I have here 1g of DXM Hbr powder.
I plan to get to 3rd plateu. Im going to try and go for 500mg.

I wanted to see what the other Plateus were like also so i started small.

Thursday 1:00pm Swallowed a 250mg Capsule.

2:00 Not feeling the effects. Swallowed another

3:00 Nothing really .. For some reason ended up swalling another 2
capsules equalling i took just under 800mg (2x 150 mg odd)

5:00 I sat back at my computer wondering when it was going to kick in... I lay back listening to Psytrance music.
Then, It felt like i suddenly woke up from Dreaming or something. It had begin to take effect. I stood up, and as i did, this whole warm/Burning sensation rushed through my whole body head to toe, Then i started to get this tangy feeling on my tounge and my mouth, Felt like a cross between a Anaesthetic feeling and a poisoning Feeling. I started to panic but then i thought, thats what i did first time i k holed, Do not panic its the worse thing to do, just embrace whats happening, sit back and enjoy the ride.

5:30 I was walking around a little bit and thinking it feels like im floating sort of as im walking around, very weird.

5:40 I thought that maybe id took too much and remember reading somewhere that someone said when they ate it recuded there roll, so i ate pieces of bread (I did not feel sick one bit during this whole trip. I do have a very strong stomach though)

6:00 Had pizza made for me, was pepporoni pizza and spicy chicken. I didnt know if i wanted to eat or not. Other person in the room said i was sort of switching On and Off and nibbling at one slice. Every nibble i did the peperoni felt like i was eating fire or something. This burning went on and on. I Continued to go "On and off" and was in and out of dreaming...
I was embracing the fact and feeling like i might die ....Then i felt this cooling refreshing feeling on my face, my dog was licking my face loads and it really helped me i was having a bad time and it cooled me off and i was much better. After he licked my face for about 10 minutes i felt so much better and stood up...

6:30 Returned to my room, thought hmm i wonder if my music can help me out, im having a bit of a bad time. Then suddenly Had a strong urge to go for a poo at this point.. It was like LOADS of Air lol.. ! I remember messaging people on facebook. I kept saying things like "This is S***" and feeling sad. I suddenly decided i didnt want to listen to any more psytrance and i just lay on my bed. I was laying there thinking about things id done wrong in my life and how im not going to repeat them...I lost track of time a bit here. I was just laying there and drifting in and out of reality. I didnt really see many Hallicinations. Other person in the house came into my room, (i had recently bought some new headphones) and he see them playing music through them
On the side and he said "Thats not how your meant to use them" and laughed at me. I laughed too which i then stood up abrubtly and turned the speakers off. I layed back down on my bed. Other person in the room said at this point i was laying there, body motionless but my head was spinning in circles with a deep gaze in my eyes. He also reported i went to talk to him a few times, in which i kept turning "on and off" and my eyes were looking at the top of my head every time i was talking to him.

7:00 Just lay in my bed....... can see something similiar in my head to when you go on youtube and type in Natural hallicinogen. Also i can hear some hard
dance track playing (about 4 seconds of it looping in my head) and then some psy trance sounds also.....

9:00 pm I hadnt slept for these 2 hours, Just layed there...

Friday 11:00am I can only describe Friday as 2nd plateu .. Up until

6:00pm Had some dinner.. Starting to go into what id say would probably be early 2nd plateu.

11:00pm Went to sleep

Saturday 4:40am Just before sunrise.. I have awoke. My brain feels like it is dying. I cant barely think.. Time almost stood still Was this a bad Reaction between me using MDMA and DXM so close together (11 days gap) ???
I layed there feeling brainless and in agony.. As the sun slowly crept up i felt like sitting up and looking at the light.
As i was looking at the Light i felt better.. And better... Slept again until....

6:00am Similar pain. Yet again sunlight made me feel better and better.. Passed Wind Lots and lots all day long.

6:30am Oh yeah Damn i nearly forgot bins have to be put out this morning..
Had the vision of when you stand up too quickly, which carried on until i made it to the front door. Once i opened the front door and the light hit my eyes, it was still the same "blackout" sight i could see though my eyes only it was more colourful. so i wheeled the bins out virtually blind and in a daze, doing mostly everything by feel and hoped my neighbor didnt spot me..

9:00am Ate breakfast, and A whole tin of tuna and sat in sun for about 20minutes, was making me feel better, (all i was thinking about was serotonin levels)
Still have poor walking ability.. Vision is poor, cant concentrate my eyes on something. Just that feeling as when you look at the tip of your nose....... Like my eyes were crossed or something... Rested up .. Pupils were Still dialating and Undialating at this point..... Felt wrecked still but was quite full of energy. I was meant to be going out tonight. I told my friend id wait and see how i was and then let them know in a few hours..
I decided to go on ahead to this rave.
11:10pm Got in there. Was walking a bit odd and stuff but was enjoying the atmosphere. Got some lucozade.

Sunday 1:00am Was limited to movements, usually i like moving around lots at raves but my legs wouldnt let me..
1:40am Legs felt like they was spring loaded at this point... Could not stomping around, Was this the Afterglow? *Note i was sweating, Just thought id point this out as DXM is meant to stop you sweating
When the beat stopped. My legs shaked.. Tense they felt they didnt like me stopping Movement!!!
6:00am Went outside for a burger and a cup of tea. My walking still wasnt right. Walked like a robot for ages now.. Lol

9:00am Was home, Fed Dog. Ate Fruit, Drunk a smoothie. Went upstairs, Wanted to sleep but my ears were ringing from the loud music.
12:00pm Put headphones on, Sat back in my chair playing White noise sound (Something i do when my ears are ringing as it makes the ringing
Sound go away.)
3.00pm Woke up Ubruptly... Had this sinking pain feeling in my brain. I felt really sad. I started to panic and i felt dizzy too. I longed for sunlight all Of a sudden... I could taste/feel that Firey burning Tingling on my tounge again (Feeling that i was being poisoned).... Drank some water and took the dog for a walk asap. Quite a long one too.. I was feeling really alone and depressed, Id never felt this sad and alone in my whole life... i was wondering who i could go to .. This was the worst feeling ever.. The whole world looked darker and gloomier than ever before = (
4:00pm Quick as i could, I ate a Whole 200g bar of Cadburys bournville Dark chocolate.... (I know it raises Serotonin levels)
5:10pm Started to pick up a bit... Started playing Call of Duty 4 Online. I was playing really really different. My vision was still cloudy/snowy and it felt like instead of being able to concentrate that i was in a constant daze, but ... Best way to describe it was i felt like i was an Aimbot or something, just by the way i was able to so quickly sight in and get a few shots off and kill people.. I was first on free for all for about an Hour... Slight Euporic feeling...
Another important thing to note, was that i smelt a burning smell from outside long before my dog or my brother did. I think my senses were Overactive.
6:30pm Had some dinner also. Feeling more Euphoric...
7:30pm Played Mortal kombat with my brother on 360... By now the Euphoria was amazing and i said to him i feel like ive just took MDMA and i was Extremely Hyper and Happy... I was playing as the faster characters and was really kicking arse (im usually not very good at fighting games)
11:00pm Went to sleep.

Monday 1:00am Awoke Abrubtly, Excessively sweating and extremely dizzy, in fact i couldnt see for a few minutes at least, all i could see was these strange Colours in like a blur. It went away after about 10 mins then i drunk some water then went back to sleep....
9:00am Whaooh still dizzy and wobbly. Eyes still feel crossed. I wonder when this will go away, Anywho feeling a buzz of somesort.. Quite energetic. But Clumsy.. nothing much else to say. Hands and arms are still Numb

Tuesday
8:00am Woke up in loads of sweat again.
9:00am Ate breakfast, played Cod4.. Feeling pretty good .. Ooooh spotted the Other 200g Bar of Bournville dark chocolate and ate that in one go (What. im not greedy at all??)
12pm Buzzzzzzzz Of energy , Euphoriaaa.. took the dog to the park for a walk with those nice new headphones, Hardstyle playing, Getting utter music Euphoria.. Played on the Tyre swing. (Very fun when your 6 foot 1 and can Spin it at a ridiculously high speed) Why is the park so fun today i thought, and why was i even at the park! i havent been here for about 6 months! lol
2pm Still full of beans! Took dog home, then walked to asda to get some bread and stuff. Feeling energetic and very happy!

Wednesday 9:00 Soo tired and low mood today. . . . . . . . Had to go to some course thing.
11:00am Struggling to keep my eyes open.. nearly .. Zzzz ooops fell asleep for a bit XD
1:00pm Cannot keep my eyes open urghh..
2:00pm Started to chat to someone , bout fitness and other excercises and stuff. (Used to do lots of running,) and then talked about music and djing
3:00pm Crossed eyes have finally Subsided i can concentrate on things again. Walking is still not right..

Thursday
7:00am Got up, not walking 100% , but im Definately on the Mend.
What a long experience so far.. I know what i did was wrong, and expect no sympathy but i do hope that i do recover as much as possible.

Now i am scared of taking MDMA after having that painful effect that saturday morning.. What was happening there? Can someone shed some
Light? Or tell me why the sunlight was making me feel better?

How long should i wait from now if i do decide to roll on Mdma again, (120mg MAX) , would 2 months be okay?

This was my First report.

Now June 29th, 2011. A month later
I have made a near Full recovery from this, But am now suffering from anxiety, and get anxiety when coming up on MDMA which i never used to get
 
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Ive done dxm ALOT, been to ALL the plateaus including sigma(1.2grams throughout the day) and ive never had that experience ever. Id say if your having after effects and pains for up to four days after you trip then maybe your body just cant handle high doses of dxm. It takes a huge toll on the body. Next time you use it prepare a week in advance by loading with vitamins and eating really healthy so when you do decide to use it your body will be able to take on the burden due to the extra vitamins. Also maybe instead of taking 800mgs try 500 but drink alot of white grapefruit juice with it....that way you could get real nice effects due to the potentiating properties of grapefruit without overdoing the dxm. Or maybe your body just cant handle the effects of dxm, because i know alot of my buddies cant do the shit due to the fact that they are fucked for like a week after doing it. Also its a possibility your source for the dxm powder maybe have put some additives in it that didnt agree with your body. As far as the next time you can use mdma? I would DEFFINALTY say 2 months is long enough, shit two weeks would be fine if your feeling better, mentally.....but its different for everyone.
 
Oh okay, thanks.

I usually can roll okay on mdma a month later, But i was just scared of experiencing what matched up to serotonin syndrome, it was a very nasty experience.

I dont plan on doing DXM again. In fact i binned the remaining 200mg i had as i think it was the right thing to do.
 
800mg is a huge dose, especially for a first time. I would never recommend starting with such a dose. Also, the multiple day duration seems a little weird to me. Are you familiar with CYP2D6 enzyme deficiency? Here's a quote from the Wikipedia DXM page:
A major metabolic catalyst involved is the cytochrome P450 enzyme known as 2D6, or CYP2D6. A significant portion of the population has a functional deficiency in this enzyme and are known as poor CYP2D6 metabolizers. O-demethylation of DXM to DXO contributes to 100% of the DXO formed during DXM metabolism.[32] As CYP2D6 is a major metabolic pathway in the inactivation of dextromethorphan, the duration of action and effects of dextromethorphan can be increased by as much as three times in such poor metabolizers.[34] In one study on 252 Americans, 84.3% were found to be "fast" (extensive) metabolizers, 6.8% to be "intermediate" metabolizers, and 8.8% were "slow" metabolizers of DXM.[35] There are a number of known alleles for CYP2D6, including several completely inactive variants

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Took 600mg of DXM last night after a long break from the substance.

After smoking a blunt 2hrs into it I was absolutely floored all night, and even just a bowl is taking me right back out there all day today.

Feels fantastic.
 
^PROZ4C IM JEALOUS! i know damn well you were feeling niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice....i feel like i get some sort of weird energy when i hear some one has been tripping on dxm, i cant stand all the people on here that bash it!
 
Well on my deep trip, i came to the conclusion i have got to knock it on the head a bit with drugs, and go back to small doses, Bumps of ket and Dabs of mdma , No more going nuts.

Yes i had read about that Defeciency afterwards though lol.

Maybe i was defecient in it, Anywho i kind of got what i wanted to with dxm but i dont think i will use it again
 
^PROZ4C IM JEALOUS! i know damn well you were feeling niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice....i feel like i get some sort of weird energy when i hear some one has been tripping on dxm, i cant stand all the people on here that bash it!

I agree with you completely.

DXM is a hell of a drug. Combine it with some marijuana and it is full on amazing.

I think it gets a lot of hate because alot of people can't tolerate it physically to ever experience what it has to offer at the right dosage / combination so they don't have as pleasant of experiences as some of us do. (Be grateful if you are lucky enough to have been blessed with a robust body that can handle the more harsh drugs, remember not everyone can... so be humble / grateful... no reason to argue with the ones who want to hate on DXM, if you know how amazing it is that should be good enough.)

Also, liver enzymes make a huge difference in DXM to DXO ratio which changes the character of the trip significantly.

I've had DXM trips that felt similar to MDMA, other times it has felt like nothing more than drunkenness and confusion. Yet last night it took me further than LSD or mushrooms ever has it was the most visually immersive, flow of time stopping, 4th dimensional headspace journey type trip I have had of anything except DMT.

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Moved from PD >> TR, changed title to be appropriate, PM a TR mod if you really want this to be named differently still.
 
I had about 700mg my first time and it was definitely very intense. Then I did shrooms the next day. I guess im very lucky to have a robust body lol
 
Starting with 500mg when it's your first time? 800mg in total is a HUGE dose for a first time, especially not having tested how your body reacts with this chemical in a low dose.. I know you said you know what you did wrong but that's a big error man, got to be careful with this stuff!

You said you started with 250mg then re-dosed and re-dosed again. Well normally DXM takes around 2 hours to come up and notice any effects for me, when you have higher doses this time increases and when you re-dose over a spread out time I can imagine it will increase even further.. This might explain why you never felt anything for ages and such a slow come up. What happened during friday night? Did you remember anything?

As stirfry pointed out maybe your within this bracket of people who break down the chemical really slowly and with such a high and drawn out dose combined with a deficiency in CYP2D6 this might explain your tough experience.

An important note though, drinking grapefruit juice will inhibit the CYP2D6 enzyme and generally people say this prolongs and improves the intensity of the trip. But also there are people who say it is the combination of DXM and DXO that make the trip what it is. No one really knows if the different chemicals are responsible for the different aspects of a trip. In my experience I didn't enjoy the grapefruit juice/DXM combo because it just increased unwanted effects such a dizzyness, un-able to focus and also made the trip last a really fucking long time. That's just my personal experience though.. others say it makes it fucking amazing. Maybe I'm already in the middle bracket of CYP2D6 and disrupting my medium functioning enzymes doesn't help.

One more thing..
*Note i was sweating, Just thought id point this out as DXM is meant to stop you sweating

I've never heard this? When I have DXM and I've had it quite a fair amount of times, I always sweat no matter what environment I'm in. Most of the times I won't have been sweating before either. Does anyone else find this?
 
In fact PROZ4C already pointed out the DXO, DXM ratio affecting the character of the trip. I love the afterglow of DXM, smoking the next day picks me up right back to where I was the day before, the synergy is incredible.
 
Just remember sitting on the chair talking to my brother "monging out" on friday..

Up to friday night.. Friday is a bit patchy i cant remember it.

Im still not 100% walking right and my eyes are occasionally going out of focus but im definately on the mend, Been eating my fruit and veg , doing excercise, eating dark chocolate.

Well my whole plan altogether was to see if DXM is raveable. I found this out i guess it is sort of, but your legs feel so weird. The best thing i found though was that i was able to eat at a rave, means a lot to me i like to eat. Cant do that while im on mdma.

I read that DXM leaves you with a higher risk of overheating, and that it stops you sweating.



Ive never been sick on a roll, at a rave or even drinking before.

I felt no sickness at all with the whole DXM experience
 
ok to start things off im a male, 15, around 155 and i smoke about 2 grams of marijuana a week and ive been doing low doses of diphenhydramine(about 300-350mg a day for about a week)- alright idk if this is normal with dxm but i downed 1 bottle of cough syrup last night(about 360mg of dxm) making sure the only ingrediant was dxm and i did the calculations and shit so i knew how much i was doing.

after 45 min i looked around the room and new i could feel it.
it was like i was the highest and drunkest ive ever been before and it kinda caught me off-guard because i didnt take that big of a dose, it was a dreamy experiance it felt like i was 5 pounds and 500 pounds at the same time. i was like crawling around on the floor doing pushups with virtually no fatigue just enjoying it as much as i could that lasted for 2 hours until i was laying in my bed for an hour and then i fell asleep.

i was just wondering because with other forums i read on people had these affects at around 700 mg. it was my first time with dxm so i wouldnt know the difference. does it just maybe affect me more by some slight chance or is my experiance normal? and today(the next day) i feel like the first time i smoked a cigarette like buzzed/enlightened/slightly drunk all at the same time all day so does anyone no whats up? thanks
 
Well a bit Robotic granted, but i managed to easily stomp around at a rave for 6 hours from it,

That next day feeling could be the Euphoria.

1 in 3 people seems to have less of that enzyme in the liver to process it, im one of them i believe so the effects drag on for longer.
 
Prozac that image is starting to make me see the words melt on the screen after I look at it haha.
 
@fullofmilldo

So people were saying you would feel drunk/stoned at 700mg? That description to me is 2nd plateau, where the range is 2.5-7.5mg/kg. Your 155 pounds is roughly 70kg. So a 700mg dose is 10mg/kg.. that's 3rd plateau for sure. Third plateau you start to lose the ability to walk and talk and just need to lay down and float off into space. These people who say they just feel drunk/stoned on 700mg must have a tolerance or something.

Basically, check EROWID. It has all the info about DXM, what the plateau ranges are, what they should feel like, how to potentiate DXM, what not to mix with it etc.

Actually just realised you said you had been taking diphenhydramine, which potentiates DXM. Your trip could have been a lot more intense, your description is what I would get from 350mg without anything to potentiate it.
 
@fullofmilldo- DEFFINATLY THE DIPHENHYDRAMINE NO QUESTION. You must have been fucking floored bro.....if only you drank some white grapefruit juice on top of that,you would have been sailing though hyperspace like it was your job :)
 
Well a bit Robotic granted, but i managed to easily stomp around at a rave for 6 hours from it,

That next day feeling could be the Euphoria.

1 in 3 people seems to have less of that enzyme in the liver to process it, im one of them i believe so the effects drag on for longer.

That's entirely possible, but my money is on the MDMA causing all of your adverse reactions. It is very unusual to not feel even threshold effects until T+4:00, which to me suggests some sort of serotonin deficiency, which of course is a common feature of post-MDMA use. I would say there were a number of mistakes you made during the trip that could have drastically altered the overall experience: doing it relatively soon after an MDMA dose, eating, and not dosing everything at once. You said you were able to walk around and go on Facebook during the peak effects, so I doubt you hit the third plateau (otherwise you would have been completely immobilized), it sounded more like a severely-affected second plateau trip.

You can't really experience all of the different plateaus in a single trip. As soon as you hit a specific plateau, you pretty much stay there (some people claim they can dose up to the second plateau after hitting the first, though), and dosing any higher just compounds the negative effects. If you're interested in giving DXM a second go, here is a recipe for success:

- Don't do DXM if you've done a serontonergic drug in the past week (I would wait at least a month after MDMA)
- Take a multi-vitamin when you wake up (important to stock up on B vitamins).
- Don't eat for at least 3 - 4 hours before you trip (if you get too hungry, just have a few crackers)
- Take 400 - 500 mg, for a strong second plateau experience (don't do 3rd plateau for your first time)
- Take the DXM, all at once, with something acidic like orange juice or lemonade (settles the stomach)
- Take a Benadryl or two if you don't like to roboitch (also a mild potentiator)
- Stay hydrated
- Marijuana helps with the confusion and nausea, but also changes the nature of the trip and has the potential to cause anxiety, so it's up to you
- Trip at night (I prefer to be alone, people can complicate things)
- Lay down in a cool, dark room with headphones on (if you have a sleep mask, use it. You want as much darkness as possible. I like to throw a blanket over my head and open my eyes in the complete darkness - this, I think, is the key for truly amazing visuals. It creates CEV/OEV hybrid visuals that are, imo, more vivid than regular CEVs)

If you follow all of those directions, I don't see how your experience could be anything but enlightening and euphoric.
 
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