Dutch police complain it is their right to smoke cannabis while off-duty

Screening cops for repressed issues (that includes general assholiness) will greatly improve their efficiency.
Telling them they aren't free to do to themselves as they please will not.

The gap between cops and citizens is wide enough as it is, there's no need to make things worse.
 
As long as they arent stoned on the job i really dont see how they could tell them not to do as they wish with their free time, especially if citizens can go and get stoned.

They are basically saying that somehow policemen are different then every other person out there, which lets face it, cops are not better than anyone else, even in uniform. They are still your average guy, who can go on a power trip.
 
thats completely true. "setting a good example" my ass. This is a country known for its open marijuana use. Therefore, using it is not setting a bad example (off duty, although I would argue that even being on cannabis on duty isnt so bad, depending on how it affects you though).

Anyway, since the good example bs is just that, bs... I'd have to agree with a decline in liberal drug use laws. First, mushrooms. And as sad as it sounds slowly but surely, pot may be next... Maybe the country is trying to get rid of, altogether, the drug use associated with it.

And by the time pot is prosecuted as a crime in Ams, the US still will not have legalized it.
 
"They are basically saying that somehow policemen are different then every other person out there, which lets face it, cops are not better than anyone else, even in uniform. They are still your average guy, who can go on a power trip."


i agree


.. why do we even have police???? ha. I have never hard one thing done right by them??
 
One time some dude broke into my apartment and passed out in my bed... When I called the cops I was happy to see them for the first time in my life...

That sucked stumbling in the door at 6am to find some scumbag tainting my sheets.

I wouldn't have cared if they smoked the night before. I wouldn't have cared if they were high when they showed up as long as they got the guy out of there.
 
Oh the cops are not allowed to smoke weed in Holland whilst off duty, but they're still allowed to go fuck a legal hooker in the arse whilst off duty!

Great example to the public! ;)
 
This is the start of how drug laws get changed. See, the politicians can make all the laws they want, but it's up to police to enforce them. When the police refuse to enforce the laws, they are effectively nonexistane. When the politicians see that the law is unenforceable, they eventually have no choice but to change the law or risk losing all authority.
 
"When has it ever been a right to take drugs?"

Since back in the day, when nigga's had ways, gazzle shades and corn braids.. Thats when!!

WTF are you even doing on a pro drug forum??

I personally think cops should be required to get stoned before every shift, it'd give em a better perspective, I'd much rather deal with a stoned cop than a sober cop, it'd cut out about 90% of the bullshit they give people.. seriously.
You people act like getting high makes you stupid or slow or some shit..

I guess some people should be drug tested like airline pilots, train conducters, surgens etc. But cops can be such dicks I wouldn't mind if their were more stoner cops, as long as they weren't hypocrites and didn't steal peoples herb, LOL..
 
so would you say that smoking pot every night would have zero effect on your performance at work during the day?
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it's not like alcohol use during off hours can't affect work performance..it shouldn't matter what effect the drug has as long as your work is deemed acceptable.

the idea of police not smoking as a "moral example" is ridiculous. i mean sure if you saw a cop ripping bong after bong at the coffee shop maybe you'd be less impressed with him just like if he was smashed at a bar, but just smoking a joint or two? oh no how immoral
 
BREAKING UPDATE:

Queen Beatrix, Monarch Of The Netherlands, signs a new law limiting the consumption to only 4 ecstasy pills and/or only 2 grams of cocaine per day for brain surgeons, while "off duty," so long as they show up to their job assignments only "mildly cracked out."
 
Do You *REALLLY*

bingalpaws said:
Police in Amsterdam are complaining over new rules banning them from smoking cannabis while off duty.
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Who wouldn't...
Complain,
against your previous
'right
by
law'.


B'Paws said:
Frank Gittay,
the city's police council chairman,
said:
"Until now
police were only banned
from showing up
for work
stoned
or drunk.
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Makes sense.
'reckon,
like,
many police officers,
they about know
we are telling officers
they should also behave like the police at all times.

"That means not taking drugs
and not getting excessively drunk whether on or off duty."
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People.


But Dutch police union chairman Hans van Duijn said:
(I'm sure he said lots)
"Many of our members are opposed to this.
"They are not paid for 24-hours a day.
What they do in their free time is up to them."

Sweet.
A'long they don' shot peep's when there cranky,
&
commin' down....


Dutch police
complain it is their
right to smoke cannabis
while off-duty[/SIZE]
December 15, 2007
Daily Mail

Probably one of the professions that need the chill.

Anyway.

*waits fo' comments 'bout craz-ed Dutch Police
attackin' peeps alla 'Reefer Madness'....*


PEACE
UnS
:)
 
that's not me saying that stuff it's the article, meh



I didn't want to start a new thread when I saw this, but seriuosly, I used to really want to go to amsterdam, but now I fear by the time I'm ready to go it won't be close to what I had expected. They have been tighter with pot shop permits and stuff, the whole mushrooms thing, this police thing, and now this:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071217/od_nm/dutch_prostitution1_dc
 
I am glad I stayed there when I did. 12 years ago it was the most happening place ever. Big raves, clubs, drugs flowed freely.

Of course I was only 17 at the time, so I was literally a kid in a candy store.

Never hit up the prostitutes, as I was with my GF, but we did go to some of the live sex shows.

There was an element of people there who were always trying to rip people off. If they 'clean the city up', so to speak, I just hope they leave it in tact enough to still be the Amsterdam I remember.

I will be going there again, but this time only for a short 2 week vacation. It will be interesting to see how things have changed.
 
bingalpaws said:
Police in Amsterdam are complaining over new rules banning them from smoking cannabis while off duty.

Officers in the Dutch capital, famous for its liberal drugs laws, have been told they must set the public "a good moral example".

The ban, due to come into effect on January 1, will make the force the first in the Netherlands to bar officers from using drugs when not at work.

Frank Gittay, the city's police council chairman, said: "Until now police were only banned from showing up for work stoned or drunk.

"But now we are telling officers they should also behave like the police at all times.

"That means not taking drugs and not getting excessively drunk whether on or off duty."

But Dutch police union chairman Hans van Duijn said: "Many of our members are opposed to this.

"They are not paid for 24-hours a day. What they do in their free time is up to them."


Dutch police complain it is their right to smoke cannabis while off-duty
December 15, 2007
Daily Mail
link
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It's not just in Amsterdam like this article, and the one by the OP suggest, but about police officers through the whole of the Netherlands, in all cities.

bingalpaws said:
Tiesto - I almost universally agree with that, but I tend to hesitate a little bit in certain areas. I found this article interesting because I was really torn on it. On the one hand I hate to see further and further evidence of amsterdam 'cracking down' on pot, but on the other hand I feel there's certain professions where drugs, such as pot, that stay in the system too long, maybe shouldn't be allowed. For instance, if you think it's cool for cops, okay. What about firemen? Then what about ambulance drivers? Heart surgeons? How about an airplane pilot who only flies the biggest of the jumbo jets with countless lives in his hands?


It's hard because I can think of situations where I wouldn't want that person who is in such a position of responsibility to have been stoned out of his mind the night before, yet at the same time it sucks telling people what they can / cannot do in their spare time when they're not on the job.
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Again, it's not even Amsterdam cracking down on drugs. It's mostly in other cities, but also just the goverment in general


syyth007 said:
Yeah, it's too bad the (fachist) U.S. has so much influence on world policy...
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They have sweet fuck to do with the Dutch drug policy. the reason our liberal policy is going into the waste bin, is because of the large victory the Christian parties have made, the parties who try to bring Christian moral upon us Dutchmen, and one of the now major parties in the Netherlands, the Christen Unie, is very convervative, if it would be up to them, death penalty will be reintroduced in the Netherlands, and probaply even be a legit penalty for drug use, if it would be up to them....


FractalStructure said:
thats completely true. "setting a good example" my ass. This is a country known for its open marijuana use. Therefore, using it is not setting a bad example (off duty, although I would argue that even being on cannabis on duty isnt so bad, depending on how it affects you though).

Anyway, since the good example bs is just that, bs... I'd have to agree with a decline in liberal drug use laws. First, mushrooms. And as sad as it sounds slowly but surely, pot may be next... Maybe the country is trying to get rid of, altogether, the drug use associated with it.

And by the time pot is prosecuted as a crime in Ams, the US still will not have legalized it.
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Yet again, Amsterdam is not the Netherlands, just the capitol.. But anyway, problematic cannabis is much more often portraid in the media than it used to be. Complains of youth becoming addicted to cannabis, and even at very young ages(which is true, I know a lot of friends who are cannabis junkies, and it's fucking them up) It will not be long before people think about the Netherlands as that country which used to have a liberal policy.... some time ago..
 
Ow, and just to add for clarification, the mayor of Amsterdam, Cohen, wants to clean out thecity centre, closing almost all prostitute rooms. Shrooms are banned, and the ban will take effect in a few months, and the goverment has announced a new law which will close half of all coffeeshops in the Netherlands. Growshops will soon be banned as well. Many smartshops have been closed permanently by the ministry of justice, and it's even realistic that all smartshops will be banned in the future, and maybe even the coffeeshops. Fucked up for shure....
 
Chaos23 said:
One time some dude broke into my apartment and passed out in my bed... When I called the cops I was happy to see them for the first time in my life...

That sucked stumbling in the door at 6am to find some scumbag tainting my sheets.

I wouldn't have cared if they smoked the night before. I wouldn't have cared if they were high when they showed up as long as they got the guy out of there.
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I would do the polite thing and wake him up and recommend he leave. :)
 
if i remember right (and i could be wrong about this so don't flame me) isn't it technically not legal to get stoned in the netherlands? i know marijuana is SOLD legally and no one is arrested for smoking it but isn't it still technically against the law? and if so, then shouldn't police officers abide by the law even if its a law that's not ever enforced?
 
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