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Due to MDMA use, does anyone else hate alcohol on nights out now? (more info)

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I use very good, tested MDMA which leaves me with barely any hangover. The best thing about it however is at the right dose I don't look retarded or feel 'fucked' up. I just feel great, have a great time without making a fool of myself. Unlike when I have used average quality MDMA with obvious adulterants that leave you feeling horrid for days or when I drink a lot.

Compared to alcohol it makes the night 10x better. I don't drink a lot but have a fairly high tolerance. Alcohol doesn't make me that talkative nor want to dance much anymore and I find it makes the night dull for me. My alcohol hangovers are also terrible.

Does anyone else feel something similar and how do they cope with this? I have always followed harm reduction principles so taking MDMA every night out is not going to be an option. It is a once a month thing for me, usually longer.
 
I did for a period during my honeymoon phase, because why would I want to be a sloppy drunken mess when I can be on MDMA? I then abused it for about a year or two, and realizing that my brain was fried I stuck with alcohol for a while. Then cocaine came into my life and the same thing happened, but much more shortly, i abused cocaine for about 3 months and alcohol became very boring without it. Now I'm back to enjoying alcohol by itself and even limiting my drinking (due to excess and hangovers)

Through that time I learned (and still am learning) that I can be happy with whatever as long as I let myself...as vague as that sounds it's all up to you how you are going to act during the night. If you get drunk and mope about how much better the night would be with mdma then you won't be happy. If you forget about taking mdma and just enjoy what you're doing you'll be happier.
 
Yeah I know what you mean. The worst thing is, when I go out drinking I just want to drop MD. Its both a product of being drunk & preferring the MD high and has often lead to taking it while drunk. I still enjoy alcohol a lot but it makes me a cunt. Like yourself, MDMA doesn't make me a cunt or doing anything I regret and the hangover is much well... what hangover. Alcohol, on the other hand, makes me feel like absolute shit the next day. Not just a sick stomach but I feel depressed, bored & lack any motivation to do anything after a nights drinking. Horrible drug really, shame its so accepted.
 
Difference is after alcohol you have one shitty day then you are recovered. After MDMA people can take up to a week to recover, some times months to recover with lingering affects. I'm totally with you on the high part, MDMA is always a funner night. But it always comes with more consequences once you have come down.

Not to mention, MDMA ruins a lot of other drugs for people. Alcohol and weed being the main ones. After MDMA i can't tell you how many times i have read people saying they get anxiety from weed now, and they always mention how it never happened before MDMA. It happened with me as well. Also alcohol seemed to make me completely dysphoric and weird once doing MDMA. But after staying off MDMA for a long time my weed high became better as well as my alcohol buzz went back to normal.

Something about MDMA leaving you with significantly low serotonin levels after the drug, makes other drug experiences less enjoyable.
 
F1n1shed said:
Not to mention, MDMA ruins a lot of other drugs for people. Alcohol and weed being the main ones. After MDMA i can't tell you how many times i have read people saying they get anxiety from weed now, and they always mention how it never happened before MDMA. It happened with me as well. Also alcohol seemed to make me completely dysphoric and weird once doing MDMA. But after staying off MDMA for a long time my weed high became better as well as my alcohol buzz went back to normal.

Something about MDMA leaving you with significantly low serotonin levels after the drug, makes other drug experiences less enjoyable.
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this could well be the problem. Another thing though is could the effects of alcohol be diminished by depression in general? It is likely I am depressed due to many issues that I won't explain in detail, the main ones just being unemployment, lack of money and loneliness due to friends being at university most of the time. Please note that these problems are not drug related. I only use MDMA maybe once every three months currently.
 
To me both alcohol and MDMA abuse have major repercussions, they are just different. I have a much harder time with alcoholics though. At least people on MDMA are acting happy, even if it's temporary. Drunk people are loud, obnoxious, aggressive, pushy, and often violent.

In terms of effect, MDMA makes more sense to me, but I would not call it a better drug per se because of the health impacts. The last time I did MDMA was the summer of 2012 and I still felt not quite right a month later. Alcohol... well... my best friend in high school abused alcohol, now he isn't as bright as he used to be.

Yeah, alcohol's major impact will be a one day hangover, unless you do it regularly, then you are probably damaging your brain just like you would with regular MDMA use.
 
MODERATION is always the KEY.. I too will take MDMA over alcohol any time and most times do. but I dont go out all the often so its not a massive deal for me.. I stopped getting "Drunk" about 10 years ago I would say.. It happens maybe once every few years now.. I don't drink to drunk.. LOL.. I drink what I like and to enjoy it not to get trashed.. ( Absinthe is very yummie as my name might tell you ;) )
 
I hate alcohol. I can't seem to ever drink without ending up with my head in the toilet bowl. I love MDMA but, I know that using too frequent isn't a good idea. I just deal with it and look forward to the next time I can roll.
 
Yes!! That and small town cafes/bars with music compared to the big events I usually go to. Makes me sound so snotty, but I just feel so sorry for all those people falling over/vomiting/queueing for the toilets/staggering around and behaving like twats on alcohol. Mdma parties are so much cleaner; friendlier people, less mess, everyone is still coordinated, good atmosphere, no queues for the toilets, etc :)
 
I'm a one time MDMA user, and let me tell you.. Ever since that roll I haven't had as much as a sip of alcohol. Can't stand the stuff now. Had a great epiphany whilst rolling and it made me realize how immature my idea of having "fun" was. (Get smashed, spend money, go out, attempt to pick up, spend more money in the process, go home empty handed, wake up hungover and feeling idiotic) Much rather roll every 2-3 months. I now have the original sense on anticipation I used to get for parties.
 
I got to say ever since I started doing MDMA again I've completely quit drinking. I don't enjoy the sloppiness of it nor the hangover the next day. I was never into weed due to bad anxiety and paranoia while high... So to answer your question yes MDMA has changed my view on alcohol.
 
Different drugs for different occasions.

I'd say the biggest difference is, alcohol makes me very warm and I can be in a T-shirt outside whereas MDMA being cold is the worst fucking thing ever.

I just can't see MDMA as a purely party drug that numbs you up to discomfort and whatnot like alcohol does which allows you to enjoy what would be less enjoyable without it.
 
Ehh, you got to find the right balance. We've been getting a lot of good acts in town lately, and I've convinced my self to save the serotonin for festival season. Last time I rolled was Feb 20th, I'm saving my self till late may. But it hasn't been easy, lately i've been smoking daily and it made me put on a lot of weight just cause thats the nature of the beast. But as of last week I'm down to smoking once a week albeit we split a quad 3 ways lol. If anything MDMA has stopped me from binging, I can't enjoy getting fucked up because its no longer a good time. I still get wasted, but not to the point where I run from people, start fights, and vomit all over the place. I really like coke now, It helps that I got a hook up on some fish scale. I only take a bump once every few weeks. I don't wan't to grow too dependent on that shit. My routine ain't perfect but it keeps me busy enough not to abuse anything too much.
 
I think it depends on what kind of drunk you are vs what kind of rolling person you are. I am a very social drunk and rolling person so whichever I suppose. I feel like drinking is not as bad for your mental health as ecstasy is. Plus drinking is more accessible therefore more social and acceptable than rolling. I can go out and drink and have fun. Rolling, I need To be with certain people at certain times in certain places.
 
You cant wash down a steak with mdma or reach for a pill after working all day under the Sun and not only hit the spot, but kill the spot and dress inappropriately at the spot's funeral.

A glass of wine goes better with cheese than a line of MDMA.
 
One Thousand Words said:
You cant wash down a steak with mdma or reach for a pill after working all day under the Sun and not only hit the spot, but kill the spot and dress inappropriately at the spot's funeral.

A glass of wine goes better with cheese than a line of MDMA.
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Set and setting.
 
One Thousand Words said:
You cant wash down a steak with mdma or reach for a pill after working all day under the Sun and not only hit the spot, but kill the spot and dress inappropriately at the spot's funeral.

A glass of wine goes better with cheese than a line of MDMA.
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I should have made my post clearer but this is a good point. I was mainly talking about alcohol in a nightclub setting. Of course something like wine will be of preference when I am in a restaurant. For some reason I just feel the need to drink heavily in a club because I can't enjoy them sober.
 
i'm quite the opposite.

when i've taken mdma (usually in a club or outdoor festival setting) i love drinking in moderation - beer tastes so good and so refreshing and a gin and tonic or two likewise...

alasdair
 
One Thousand Words said:
You cant wash down a steak with mdma or reach for a pill after working all day under the Sun and not only hit the spot, but kill the spot and dress inappropriately at the spot's funeral.

A glass of wine goes better with cheese than a line of MDMA.
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Nah, you can pretty much dose MDMA whenever if you really feel like it.
 
i drink about 2 -3 beers before roll. To kill my anxiety. But when i roll i dont drink alcohol, never. Only water.

Then when im coming down i usualy go sleep.

Or when coming down, sniff amphetamine and drink unknown amount of alcohol, till i get K.O :D:D
 
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