Dude, where’s my car?: How stoned is too stoned to drive?

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In STONED, palliative care physician Dr. David Casarett sets out to do anything—including experimenting on himself—to find evidence of marijuana’s medical potential. He smears mysterious marijuana paste on his legs and samples pot wine. He poses as a patient at a seedy California clinic and takes lessons from an artisanal hash maker. In conversations with researchers, doctors, and patients around the world he learns how marijuana works—and doesn’t—in the real world.

I’m curious about marijuana’s effects on someone’s ability to drive. And I’m curious about its effect on insight. Does a stoned person know that he’s too stoned to drive? I’m about to find out.

I’m standing in a deserted parking lot next to an aged Honda Civic with my patient Jeff, a medical marijuana user (and driver), who has just smoked the contents of a decent-sized joint. I envisioned performing a formal driving test with traffic cones, but alas, I didn’t plan ahead. So instead I stopped at a grocery store and picked up ten pounds of bananas. In the past few minutes, as Jeff was turning his joint to ashes, I arranged twenty-four bananas spaced 10 feet apart in two parallel lines forming a lane about twelve feet wide.

Now as we sit in Jeff ’s car I explain my plan. First, he’ll drive between the two lines of bananas. Then he’ll back up the same way. Then, as fast as he can, he’s going to weave through the bananas on the right side, execute a U-turn, and then weave through the other line.

It’s a simple plan, and Jeff is nodding. But he’s he has the glassy-eyed expression of a dead fish, and it seems like he’s paying a little too much attention to a flock of seagulls clustered at the far end of the parking lot. I tighten my seat belt.

But Jeff isn’t ready to drive. He’s not even sure where to put his feet. So we sit in companionable silence while Jeff is entertained by the parking lot’s resident seagulls.

How long are we going to have to wait until Jeff ’s brain rejoins us? Based on what I’ve read in the executive report on marijuana and driving that was published by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, it might be some time. That document is about as dull as it sounds, perhaps because the clean-living folks at the NHTSA are not terribly enthusiastic about drivers getting stoned. For instance, they warn that marijuana impairs driving ability immediately, and that its effects can last for up to three hours.

Twenty minutes after Jeff finished his joint—and well within the NHTSA danger zone—Jeff says he feels a little better. He looks about the same, though. And he’s still staring straight ahead, smiling, and laughing occasionally. So I’m eager to see what “better” looks like once our wheels start turning.

(...)

There’s another test that works better, although it’s not going to assuage the concerns of many state troopers. In an fMRI study of stoned drivers, fMRI changes weren’t associated with blood levels of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), marijuana’s main psychoactive ingredient. But those changes were strongly associated with feelings of confusion. That is, the subjective feeling of confusion was a good predictor of brain changes.

So a good test of driving ability might be as simple as an honest self-assessment. Maybe the best predictor of whether your drive to the grocery store is going to end in a collision with a tree is how stoned you feel.

cont at
http://www.salon.com/2015/07/25/dude_wheres_my_car_how_stoned_is_too_stoned_to_drive/
 
I'm not sure if I drive better, but I tend to pay more attention, so that could be considered driving better. Also, I am a lot less likely to speed. I prefer to not drive stoned though. I get paranoid, and my heart rate increases out of my comfort zone for sitting (sometimes).
 
I'm just used to smoking all the time and I've been a driver (uber,deliveries, process server) for like ten years, been driving for 15yrs overall. I don't think I'm a better driver when I'm stoned I don't drive much different.
 
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How much sleep is it safe to drive on is a better question.

I'd rather smoke 2 grams of the best weed to the dome and drive than go driving on no sleep for 48 hours.
 
Personally I feel that it is best to say any level of intoxication makes it not safe to be driving. I do not care how seasoned you are or how much better you drive stoned because none of that matters until a catastrophic event occurs on the road, such as the oil tanker in front of you losing control and slamming into a bridge and bursting into flames and in a split second you need to make a decision that you dont get to think about. That is the situation where it may be unsafe. We all know anyone can point a car straight and make it move at a pretty steady speed and even though that is how most of driving is it is the unpredictable "will never happen to me" events that you need to be concerned with.

How is your reaction time when a child riding a bike on the side of the road falls over into your lane right in front of you? or How well would you be at judging a micro gap you need to fit in at 50mph because of someones flipped car and a tree, will you make the correct micro adjustments to make the gap or will you be involved in the accident? Crazy shit happens on a daily basis and if you are stoned you may not be able to make the correct moves automatically and that is the hazard.
 
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