Dubstep

Status
Not open for further replies.
Dubstep--so 2011

So dubstep sprang out of nowhere seemingly in the states, I like it in small doses.
MXE+Dubstep=fluid but wierd dancing.
If we can thank weed for jazz, acid for psychadelic rock, ecstacy for techno, and heroin for nearly everything,

Is Ketamine responsible for the birth of Dubstep?
What do you think?
 
I think mephedrone is responsible for the rise of dubstep. The formula of dubstep (steady build-up, steady build-up, steady build-up, steady build-up, DROP) is perfectly suited to the adrenaline and euphoria of mephedrone.

So back last year, mephedrone was all over Britain (Don't forget dubstep originates from London), in the press, in the universities, in the schools, in the clubs, and dubstep rose to prominence, evolving the bass wobbles into often unbelievably cataclysmicly discordant, heart-racing, adrenaline pumping bass drops. I have no doubt in my mind that dubstep evolved that way because of mephedrone. There are even dubstep tracks about mephedrone, with basslines so gnarly they cross the boundary between music and white noise loosely based around a beat.

I fucking love dubstep btw ;)

It is like the black sheep of music. It breaks all the rules of song structure and content. It's basically just A/B/A/B/A/B, sometimes with little changes here and there to keep things interesting. On paper it shouldn't work, but dubstep is fucking massive. No other genre could pull off such a ridiculous formula.

I think the flavour of dubstep America has adopted leans more toward rave culture. Artists like Bassnectar create bouncy, jumpy dubstep tracks that people can roll to and throw glow sticks around to. It's a cool hybrid, but since mephedrone isn't that big in America, and since dubstep has only just become prominent in the States, it won't enjoy the same happy accident that made dubstep 'dubstep'. It's dubstep....but with a very different personality.

It's the post-meph dubstep that has caught the eye of America, although I bet a lot don't realise just how different dubstep was before mephedrone.

So IMO if it weren't for mephedrone, dubstep would never have made it to America in the first place, and it'd still be relatively niche and unheard of over here too.




Some examples/sick tunes:

Earlier, pre-rampant mephedrone use, dubstep - DZ - Old Timers

More recent, dirtier dubstep created when mephedrone use was at its peak - Tek One - Sleep With One Eye Open Remix

Dubstep track blatently about mephedrone, aimed firmly at users - Bare Noize - Plant Food
(Btw in case you were unaware, the supposed 'street name' for mephedrone was meow meow...)


Btw shouldn't this be in EMD? Dubstep is pretty electronic.
 
Last edited:
lo siento for incorrect placement. I'm new to posting/starting threads...move as necessary.

And despite glaring similarities the UK/US are very different.

Meph never grew to an epidemic here; i mean those in the rc scene tried it, told their friends and it drew some media attention from unfortunate OD's.
That was all...it hasn't unseated our massive all-american pandemic: meth.
Seen breaking bad, spun? It's real man.

Dubstep just hit this past year stateside, and hit hard.

Using MXE and dancing on it is just too natural (me and my friends stopped dancing to look up at each other--we never dance dude!--Fuck it! is waht we said); that and the face that Ketamine is nearly non-existent as far as I'm concerned states--at least compared to our drugs of choice. Dubstep's also supposed to be ten years in the making.
In my mind meph is just as conducive to trance as any electronica.
Dubstep and MXE just mesh...too well.

I kan see some guy in a k-hole dj'ing to his twisted vibes...it fits a lil' too well.

So meph may have been the thing to do at the dubstep clubs, but do you think it birthed dubstep? It wasn't even around to have been a factor.

Useless conjecture, but I firmly believe musical style results from an individuals somatic state; plain emotions fit with some; completely different perception and visceral effect fits with others...
 
Whilst you wrote that, I was spending a lot of time elaborating my first post haha. I agree that UK/US dubstep are worlds apart. I like them both, but UK dubstep has the nostalgia attached to it for me. Plus I like the more sinister edge of it too...


Meph didn't birth dubstep, it changed dubstep, and the change elevated it to unbelievable popularity overnight, and into the form that has since hit America.

It's certainly possible that ketamine is somewhat responsible for the birth of dubstep. The further back in time you go, the more sedate and wobbly dubstep becomes. Shit...it could be the first genre to have two completely different drugs attributed to its evolution! Ketamine and mephedrone couldn't be more different.
 
Last edited:
JSPete said:
Whilst you wrote that, I was spending a lot of time elaborating my first post haha. I agree that UK/US dubstep are worlds apart. I like them both, but UK dubstep has the nostalgia attached to it for me. Plus I like the more sinister edge of it too...


Meph didn't birth dubstep, it changed dubstep, and the change elevated it to unbelievable popularity overnight, and into the form that has since hit America.

It's certainly possible that ketamine is somewhat responsible for the birth of dubstep. The further back in time you go, the more sedate and wobbly dubstep becomes. Shit...it could be the first genre to have two completely different drugs attributed to its evolution! Ketamine and mephedrone couldn't be more different.
Click to expand...

1. thanks for moving the thread
2. I agree completely that meph is probably responsible for the complete evolution of dubstep as we now know. Still think that it's roots are compliments of ketamine users...just a useless conjecture though...
 
Fixed5217 said:
1. thanks for moving the thread
2. I agree completely that meph is probably responsible for the complete evolution of dubstep as we now know. Still think that it's roots are compliments of ketamine users...just a useless conjecture though...
Click to expand...

I didn't entirely notice you mention the birth of dubstep in your first post...which explains my slightly irrelevant argument about mephedrone and dubstep =D

Originally dubstep originates from garage and 2-step, as well as Jamaican dub. Garage isn't particularly k-hole material, and with that Jamaican influence I'll bet there's a shiiiitload of marijuana culture mixed in there too!

Perhaps it's just a generally druggie genre. A bit of weed here, a bit of ket there, a lot of meph over here. Some methoxetamine influenced dubstep out yonder...
 
Fixed5217 said:
Is Ketamine responsible for the birth of Dubstep?
What do you think?
Click to expand...



JSPete said:
I think mephedrone is responsible for the rise of dubstep. The formula of dubstep (steady build-up, steady build-up, steady build-up, steady build-up, DROP) is perfectly suited to the adrenaline and euphoria of mephedrone.
NSFW:

So back last year, mephedrone was all over Britain (Don't forget dubstep originates from London), in the press, in the universities, in the schools, in the clubs, and dubstep rose to prominence, evolving the bass wobbles into often unbelievably cataclysmicly discordant, heart-racing, adrenaline pumping bass drops. I have no doubt in my mind that dubstep evolved that way because of mephedrone. There are even dubstep tracks about mephedrone, with basslines so gnarly they cross the boundary between music and white noise loosely based around a beat.

I fucking love dubstep btw ;)

It is like the black sheep of music. It breaks all the rules of song structure and content. It's basically just A/B/A/B/A/B, sometimes with little changes here and there to keep things interesting. On paper it shouldn't work, but dubstep is fucking massive. No other genre could pull off such a ridiculous formula.

I think the flavour of dubstep America has adopted leans more toward rave culture. Artists like Bassnectar create bouncy, jumpy dubstep tracks that people can roll to and throw glow sticks around to. It's a cool hybrid, but since mephedrone isn't that big in America, and since dubstep has only just become prominent in the States, it won't enjoy the same happy accident that made dubstep 'dubstep'. It's dubstep....but with a very different personality.

It's the post-meph dubstep that has caught the eye of America, although I bet a lot don't realise just how different dubstep was before mephedrone.

So IMO if it weren't for mephedrone, dubstep would never have made it to America in the first place, and it'd still be relatively niche and unheard of over here too.




Some examples/sick tunes:

Earlier, pre-rampant mephedrone use, dubstep - DZ - Old Timers

More recent, dirtier dubstep created when mephedrone use was at its peak - Tek One - Sleep With One Eye Open Remix

Dubstep track blatently about mephedrone, aimed firmly at users - Bare Noize - Plant Food
(Btw in case you were unaware, the supposed 'street name' for mephedrone was meow meow...)


Btw shouldn't this be in EMD? Dubstep is pretty electronic.
Click to expand...



these are pretty laughable...

Music is druggy because you make it druggy... it's not instrinsically linked, people have been influenced - but these days (like DnB), contemporary excessive drug taking seems to make music sound generic as fuck and totally unimaginative.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top