DS Craze - meth-like ingredients

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So the police in Australia and Sweden found out that a pre workout formula had METHamphetamine-like compounds: here are the ingredients

http://ladyjane.com.au/uploads/prod...d3/Screen_Shot_2012-02-15_at_9.24_.45_AM_.png

I get massive anxiety attacks and paranoia and a feeling of out of touch with reality, It also gives me great tunnel vision and focus for working out or studying.So my question is is anyone familiar with these specific ingredients and are they really similar to METH ? - > N,N-Dimethyl-B-Phenylethylamine and
N,N-Diethyl-B-Phenylethylamine
 
Those two ingredients are just derivatives of Phenylethylamine (aka Phenethylamine). And yes, it releases dopamine and norepinephrine like meth.
 
Heres the identical thread in another forum: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/679581-Diet-pills

Here's my reply
me said:
They are somewhat similar to meth, but the n,n dialkyl (methyl and ethyl) makes it much less active as Meth only has one methyl at the n (nitrogen) site. Also, if the methyl at the beta position were moved to the alpha position, you would have something really close to meth (which is n-METHyl AlphaMethylPHEneThylAMINE). Structurally very similar, but the dialkyl on the nitrogen and the methyl on the beta makes it a weak ass cardiac stimulant at best, with most likely very little dopamine activity and guaranteed no serotonin activity.

Did you damage yourself? No. Should they be selling shit like this without a warning that it contains stimulants? No.
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Basically a bunch of phenethylamine and analogues with some sort of natural/weak MAO... Tried it a few times and makes me spaced out as hell, focussed, but very anxious and edgy.

Funnily enough it seems people I have come accross who have tried this and have some sort of amphetamine tolerance experience the same thing as I do, whereas people who have never touched any real stimulant seem to more often than not react pretty well to Craze.

Basically just a bunch of uncontrolled norepinephrine release in my eyes
 
Lots of preworkout sups have various stimulants in them and as they get banned they are replaced by lesser known/researched ones.
 
That's crazy. I bought an energy drink the other day at Walmart called Redline And noticed the caffeine anhydrous And wonder what the hell? As I've been down that road many times before. Just the name and Anhydrous caught me by surprise I guess. Kinda like when I used to see
the word phosphorus on a potato
chip bag as an ingredient. Oh how I
miss my phosphorus in a world full of shaking and baking!
 
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Caffeine Anyhydrous is simply Caffeine... That is the form it comes in no different to any other caffeine, I guess they just do it to make it look like something it's not!

Just to add aswell, IIRC there was 70-80mg of caffeine per scoop in Craze aswell on top of the other stuff in there. Also note the N-methly tryamine is a norepinephrine releasing agent allthough quickly eaten up by MAO before it can really do a lot... but as said, there is some sort of weak MAOI in craze.
 
I just started using craze after I got a sample pack and loved it. The last preworkout I was taking was hemo rage black which was fucking intense too. But it looks like they have recently changed their ingredients.

Both of these make me have panic attacks at 2 scoops, 1 - 1.5 scoops is amazing though, really nice focus.

Weird thing is, I drug test myself once in awhile after hanging out with friends that smoke and I'm always paranoid I got some second hand smoke ( I'm on probation so I cannot be dirty) and the last test came back with a really faint line for amphetamines. I took craze 2 nights before the test.

I know any line means negative but every other drug was a bright line and amp was light. Makes you wonder if something is triggering a false positive or if it really makes you fail for amph...either way I'm kind of nervous to take the stuff now for that reason and coming up dirty on a piss test.
 
^^i was in drug court and stayed away from pre workouts for that reason. I was even apprehensive about creatine ethyl ester making me drop dirty for booze as some people dropped dirty after using mouth wash.
 
MrSpeedyG said:
Funnily enough it seems people I have come accross who have tried this and have some sort of amphetamine tolerance experience the same thing as I do, whereas people who have never touched any real stimulant seem to more often than not react pretty well to Craze.
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I noticed this with jack 3d aka DMAA. I responded like shit to it though I've taken amphetamine, cocaine, MDMA, MDA, PMA (by accident), various piperazines, ritalin and probably more that I can't remember right now.

This was all 2+ years ago apart from 1 mdma hit on new years eve a few months back.

Don't take drugs no more apart from the odd spliff
 
I used to like the dmaa pre workouts cuz I liked stims back in the day. Now I'm clean so its just supplements and melanotan II for me. Good preworkout for me is a single monster rehab protean (has 15g of protein per can and only 100 calories). I usually push through my lifts nicely with lots of aggression and force and feel "godlike" to say the least (started a thread about the feeling) post workout. Only thing that's holding me back is smoking cigs but that will go in the near future. Adonis didn't smoke and I don't have to either.
 
^i don't use pre-workouts before i workout, i find them unnecessary. i use them for focus, like an ADD drug sometimes though if i'm working on music or something. but ya most of them are ruined because they replaced dmaa with yohimbe, which is a hell of a shitty trade. craze is one of the few that's still decent.
 
N,N-Dimethyl-B-Phenylethylamine and N,N-Diethyl-B-Phenylethylamine are among the active ingredients in craze
 
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