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Dry A.Confusa toss n wash success!

GoaLogic

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For any folks who don't wish to gag on tea but wish to take the ride still, I think this is the answer!

Powdered Acacia Confusia inner tree bark (not outter root bark which is stronger but not by much) in an electric mill. Sifted the powder out from the intact fiber that the mill couldn't grind with a tea screen...Did the same with some syrian rue and took it all off to a Rainbow Gathering this summer to test.

On a chilly nite in my tent with a sitter, I toss and washed one heaping tablespoon of Syrian Rue powder. Waite the normal half hour and did the same with a heaping tablespoon of fine Acacia Confusa powder.

Withing half an hour a soon to be very powerful trip began with no hint of 5meo as A.Confusia is absent of it unlike Mimosa. In that phase I expected nausea or something as I usually have trouble keeping ayahusca or an analog of this down but nothing except a full blown experience of the universe being shredded before my mind's eye, the joke of the universe revealed, and then stuffed back in my tiny head for hours of reprocessing.

I had no clock but it went from dusk till dawn basically. I mean, by dawn things had come back together but still shimmering...

My puke bucket looking lonely an unused. The only somatic fx worth mentioning were a a few farts in the morning but otherwise, not even diarrhea.

It was too easy... almost felt guilty I missed the all too hard to forget "purging"...

I have no idea if this works for other tryptamine containing plants since they contain other alkaloids or not but A.Confusa as it has only "NN-" and according to what I read on wiki, some of the highest amounts . I gotta sensitive tummy so this is my key for SURE!
 
Hi and welcome to BL & PD!

What is toss and wash? I assume it is not lingo for throwing it in the garbage and taking a shower (possibly after getting garbage juice all over you)?
 
I think I gotta post a reply here...sorry if there are repeats. Toss n wash meant that I poured powder into my mouth and washed it down with water...
 
what you experienced was the NMT and Yuremamine.
it really does exist within there, i'm getting my results for my extraction layers soon.
There does lie within the realm of possibility one of those two compounds is a mild MAOI inhibitor capable of making it last longer.
as i have had similar experiences with the powdered root bark.
 
what you experienced was the NMT and Yuremamine.
it really does exist within there, i'm getting my results for my extraction layers soon.
There does lie within the realm of possibility one of those two compounds is a mild MAOI inhibitor capable of making it last longer.
as i have had similar experiences with the powdered root bark.
He also took syrian rue which contains harmala alkaloids, potent mao inhibitors
But the experience would have been a mixture of DMT and NMT most likely
 
Has anyone tried nmt on its own?

Alexander Shulgin said:
To my knowledge there have been no reports of oral activity of NMT, although its wide availability from botanic sources has encouraged some explorers to assay it. I have had one report that the smoking of 50-100 mg gave visuals that lasted for maybe 15 seconds. The N-hydroxy analogue has been noted as being found in plants, in the "DMT is Everywhere" chapter.

TiHKAL entry #50 : NMT: http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal50.shtml

Some thread on NMT: http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/696308-NMT-A-Spatial-Hallucinogen-with-Therapeutic-Applications

Note that we do not have a centralized NMT thread but I am more than happy to make one if there are interesting things to say about the compound besides the anticlimactic TiHKAL entry.
 
Can you clarify about the NMT and Yuremamine....I knew there was NMT in there (dont know much about it) and I know acacia confusa is loaded (one of the most) with nn-dmt and no 5-meo-dmt but never heard of yurememine...
 
A. confusa seems to not contain significant amounts of yuremamine. It's almost entirely DMT/NMT.
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(2-MTHBC = 2-methyl-tetrahydro-beta-carboline, 1,2-DMTHBC = 1,2-dimethyl-tetrahydro beta carboline... related to tetrahydroharmine)

Yureamamine is an alkaloid from Mimosa tenuflora root bark that is hypothesized to be a MAOI. It hasn't, to my knowledge, proven to be so though. Personally I think a more likely hypothesis is some varieties have more harmine-type isoquinoline alkaloids, known to be MAOIs.

Either way, OP took syrian rue with his material, which explains the oral activity. Toss and wash seems like a good method for most gnarly botanicals. I bet it even works for dried, powdered, cactus - to an extent.
 
Sekio thanx for the graph of A.Confusa! Anything noteworthy about the other trace alkaloids? Sure is a lot of dmt in there! When the bark is dry it wreaks of tryptamine alkaloid. Burned as well...

Yeah Rainbow Gatherings are great for thins kind of study!

The thing I like about A.Confusa is there seems to be no alkaloids present or significantly enough to cause even the hint of discomfort on the way up or down. Just pure magic!
 
OH BTW!!

I used inner tree bark....NOT the root bark. Most of the root bark here is used for chinese medicine and is costly anyhow. If only a spoonful of inner tree bark works well and does not kill the tree I am glad!
 
Anything noteworthy about the other trace alkaloids? Sure is a lot of dmt in there! When the bark is dry it wreaks of tryptamine alkaloid. Burned as well...

As you can see, the sheer amount of DMT/NMT means that the trace alkaloids aren't much more than a curiosity.
 
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