Drugs to boost motivation?

[wwTOOLww]

^^^ agreed....SO underrated. Or maybe im just one of the lucky few who get something from ultram.

 

[Jennz0715]

I dont see how anyone can say that they get NOTHING from ultram.... I prefer it over hydro/percs and all that.. especially if i want to get some stuff done or have to do something I dont feel like doing= the stuff is great for family reunions.

 

[416-514]

i can never get motivated from opiates. they just make me want to lie on the grass in the warm sun and smile and drool. i guess i get motivated when i run out of them though cuz i realize i wasted a couple of weeks of my life siting there smiling when i should have been doing lots of other stuff and then i try to get all that stuff quickly.

 

[416-514]

amphetamine (not meth, real speed) is definitely the best way to get motivated. last night i studied for 12 hours straight. i have add so normaly i cant study for more than 20 min without getting distracted

 

[geetered]

i sugest methamphetamine or 4-mar.

 

[ChemicalBro]

Well, the problem I would see with using meth for motivation (besides dependance) would be the long come down period, which would interfere with sleep and thus limit motivation later. So would it really help that much overall?

But he already has tolerance to meth, which probably means no common stimulants are going to be effective anyway?

 

[bouncer]

But he already has tolerance to meth, which probably means no common stimulants are going to be effective anyway?

Yup, no amphetamine-type stim would do anything for me as far as motivation/energy.
I've digged on the net but found only 2 things that boost motviation: Rhodiola Rosea and Enada NADH. Anyone tried those?

 

[ChemicalBro]

Could an anti-depressant help?

 

[bouncer]

I will be trying selegiline (Deprenyl/Eldepryl) pretty soon. It increases dopamine,vigor and should give me more energy overall. We'll see.

What other ADs were you thinking of?

 

[spass]

Motivational antidepressant.

Try REBOXETINE (brand names: Edronax/Vesta), a rather new antidepressant that works in another way then most others. Not approved in USA (yet?) but in plenty of other countries. Supposedly lifts you a bit up too, gives you a bit of a boost. Lifts levels of noradrenaline.

Do a search online where you can find it. I will probably order some in the future. Didn't try it yet but supposedly works well.

 

[fckd_069]

i would say adderall above anything else. i myself have developed a semi-high tolerance to the drug, but i have found that snorting it does the trick. if adderall is readily available to you, i would suggest it because the after-effects are not as bad.

 

[ekafeman]

Get some Bupropion HCl (Zyban, Wellbutrin). It's used for depression and for people quitting smoking. It doesn't give the same buzz as coke or meth but it defintely improves your mood if you're coming off drugs.
-ee

 

[twominds]

Suprising to many people opiates such as Heroin or oxycontin give me the most motivation. I'm a regular user of meth as well as Heroin and meth makes me just wanna sit around chatting frantically while Heroin gives me energy to clean or do various things that I previously couldn't be bothered doing.

 

[psychetool]

a little off topic but ; can anti-depressants be used to ween off of marijuana ?

 

[ekafeman]

a little off topic but ; can anti-depressants be used to ween off of marijuana ?

The high you get from rec drugs is due to activation of dopamine (DA) neurons in the so-called "pleasure pathway" of the brain. Prolonged drug use causes 'tolerance' of the brain to the elevated DA being released, hence, when the drug is ceased to be used, the normal level of DA released is insufficient to provide a person with a feeling of happiness (ie withdrawal)
I'm not really that good with the pharmacological effects of marijuana, but I'm sure any anti-depressant which is anti-anxiolytic (anti-anxiety) in nature (such as the SSRI paroxetine) will help. I'm certain that Valium is useful in marijuana withdrawal though -- it relaxes the muscles and acts to reduce symptoms of anxiety associated with the insufficient DA levels.

Bupropion may help too, as it acts to increase DA levels. However it's side effects of anxiousness and anxiety wouldn't be too helpful.

I'll look into the matter further and post when I know more.

-ee

 

[XIII]

psychadelics seem to make me motivated to do things, like change my way of life, and stuff... too bad its only untill the trip ends.. maybe i should really listen to the purple elephant..

 

[GrOwThSpUrT]

adderall=speed=d-amphetamine

Meth=methamphetamine, which is a different drug, with the same properties, only stronger. and you can smoke it, and you can`t(really) smoke amp.sulphate.

and meth is far more addictive, works longer, you`ll need smaller quantities etc. etc.

 

[ChemicalBro]

The high you get from rec drugs is due to activation of dopamine (DA) neurons in the so-called "pleasure pathway" of the brain. Prolonged drug use causes 'tolerance' of the brain to the elevated DA being released, hence, when the drug is ceased to be used, the normal level of DA released is insufficient to provide a person with a feeling of happiness (ie withdrawal)

This is the problem with using drugs to motivate yourself, since in the long run they may cause you to be LESS motivated.

 

[stz]

the following posted by nanobrain in another thread was pretty interesting in regard to the discussion of drugs to help motivation:

^the nootropics seem, for me, to lower the 2C's threshold dose for manifestation of full psychedelic effects - as well as adding a significant degree of Lucidity to the experience - not really their own dynamic.

this is a sense of clarity and ease in dismissing peripheral distractions from the core experience, especially when meditating.

no fuzziness or losing trains of thought, rather - extreme tangentialization and analysis of potential and other possibilities, seeming to eventually and instinctively refractalize (not loop, as with tryptamines) back to the Central Furnace of the original Answer / Question.

keep in mind, many nootropics (most i use - hydergine, nootropil, vinca-piracetam, centrophennoxine etc) are cumulative and a certain background level in the body is necessary to appreciate their full potential (4-6 weeks course).

l-dep is in a class of its own, while also cumulative, it is also immediately felt, and believe it has has some tremendous preventative properties in re oxidative stress / lipid peroxidation / free radical induced cell membrane damage. i dont know if any studies have been done to show whether excitotoxicity is also inhibited, but intuitively feel this to be the case for this drug.

many esteemed members of this and other boards claim nootropics do jack shit. this may be true for them - and god bless them - and in fact for most people who may not have a dire need to have rather continuous access to higher storage-processing-coceptualization-crosssreferencing restorage-retrieval functions.

but as someone who gets paid for what originates between the ears, while still enjoying 15+ bongs per day, i can certainly attest to nootropics' efficacy when transition is required from Thought to Intent to Action (for those who like examples - getting your ass off the couch, turning off the TV / videogame [come the fuck on, life is so short to waste on pushed lowest common denominator pabulum of such ilk] and doing something).

for example in my line of work, this involves directing a whole lot of smartass bleep bleep etc with PhD's and MBA's out the wazoo who THINK they know how to think their way out of a paper bag without written instructions - and getting a result out of them in the end.

sorry to digress and vent.

 

[whitegirl]

hydrocodone really motivates me

That is the best motivation drug for me as well.