Drugs that make you better........

[Allein]

Another old Indian favourite of mine is "not that, not that". It shows that any attempt to comprehend divinity was bound to be tainted by the ego, therefore unreal. The real divinity (or whatever term you choose) is ineffable and you'll never have a hope of truly understanding. Which is definitely not to say you shouldn't strive; quite the opposite.

Shabbat shalom indeed.

I've alwasy liked the Terance Mckenna quote, it gives hope but in a subtle way he's driving aat the same thing weh you get further into his work :-

"If the truth can be told so as to be understood, it will be believed."
- Terence McKenna

 

[ColtDan]

much love to you Rockstar 69. you fucking northern monkey pop down one day, we'll set the combine tractor trajectory for trivial tripping tits and other trivial tribulations

 

[koneko]

Such a distasteful mouthful. Subtly, quality etc etc doest appear to matter here.

How needy, how fuck you is that...

 

[Bluebell]

Such a distasteful mouthful. Subtly, quality etc etc doest appear to matter here.

How needy, how fuck you is that...

Ouch but your right, but there young and think they know it all, hey we all been there and know with age and maturity what they dont! But hopefully they will get there in the end.

Surely there is enough sensible people on this board to advise and help, they just have to take it on baord.

But as your a former mod on here no doubt you have seen many people been given good advice and they havent taken heed! It difficult to sit back and read a car crash happening !

 

[tambourine-man]

Cannabis makes me feel batter in just about every way possible. It improves my mood, kills my anxiety, allows me to socialise, allows me to sleep...

Just need quality hash and a vapourizer and yer good to go

Agreed.

Weed keeps me balanced. Allows me to see the world for what it is and function within and without it accordingly.

 

[rockstar 69]

Sounds to me that you have had a lot of growing up to do in that past few months weeks, and good on you you feel you have come out feeling better, but on a sad note be warned those positive feelings can become destructive i.e your using a drug to make you feel better. I dont mean to shit on your parade glad your feeling good but try and let some of those good feelings come from natural addrenaline. Keep up with you gym and don't rely on Ket so much.


not trying preach just a word of warning as I have used drugs to mask bad times

Basically it has been the worst year of my life by a country mile. But I have turned it around. Not on the drugs tonight either I've just hit 70 reps on the bench press, 20 chin up bar and 70 dumb bell curls, feel like a machiiiiiiine! And as for laying off the drugs, I have a party tomorrow night, mate has some flake £80 a g coke he's gonna dish out between the boys and I have 2g of ket left that will be getting sconed after, after that I am off it for a few weeks. I'm too skint, maybe getting my old job back and I'm going wild on the fitness regime. Also the don't want to balls up with this new girl cos she is amazing and I want it to work.

Such a distasteful mouthful. Subtly, quality etc etc doest appear to matter here.

How needy, how fuck you is that...

To be completely blunt with you that comment was utterly useless and made it clear you don't quite understand. Get off your high horse and take a step in someone elses shoes deal with their problems, your probably too busy hanging out the washing or baking cakes though right? Try having the thought of upto 18months in on your head or watching one of your mates die infront of your fucking eyes then see how you deal with it! I have said from the start I did cain it with this ket, I needed to escape a bit from what was going on in my head, fucking shoot me down if that makes me a bad person. I have also said I've given it to a mate to look after and wont be seeing any more of it for a few weeks after Sat cos I know I've been hammering too much...

much love to you Rockstar 69. you fucking northern monkey pop down one day, we'll set the combine tractor trajectory for trivial tripping tits and other trivial tribulations

Haha cheers buddy! Aye Northern rockStar! Aye always wanted to see the SW UK, Bristol, Brighton, Cornwall etc, looks a good down there my man

 

[Bluebell]

Basically it has been the worst year of my life by a country mile. But I have turned it around. Not on the drugs tonight either I've just hit 70 reps on the bench press, 20 chin up bar and 70 dumb bell curls, feel like a machiiiiiiine! And as for laying off the drugs, I have a party tomorrow night, mate has some flake £80 a g coke he's gonna dish out between the boys and I have 2g of ket left that will be getting sconed after, after that I am off it for a few weeks. I'm too skint, maybe getting my old job back and I'm going wild on the fitness regime. Also the don't want to balls up with this new girl cos she is amazing and I want it to work.

Please do this have your weekend that you planned, then stick in at getting the old job back the fitness regime oh yes the new girl too, hopefully she has a positive effect on you, hopefully you will be too busy thinking about shagging her lol than drugs !

Take care, have fun but be careful I dont post much but lurk often! we want to hear your shenanigans, but as I have said just take care cause I am sure I speak for lots of people on this forum, although we dont know one another we care

 

[joe90]

Bluebell hello

 

[Bluebell]

Hey joe whats up?

 

[rockstar 69]

Please do this have your weekend that you planned, then stick in at getting the old job back the fitness regime oh yes the new girl too, hopefully she has a positive effect on you, hopefully you will be too busy thinking about shagging her lol than drugs !

Take care, have fun but be careful I dont post much but lurk often! we want to hear your shenanigans, but as I have said just take care cause I am sure I speak for lots of people on this forum, although we dont know one another we care

Thanks Bluebell, and to be honest you have me nailed. That is always number one on the agenda, women and relationships gotta come before drugs. As do exercise and music!

 

[joe90]

Whatever Rc I was poisoned with tonight deffo didnt help me.It did crush me and bring me to my knees but thats not what it should have done as it was meant to be something else.Illegality does definitely open the market to scammers to poison you!.. Just felt like a rant about drugs that make you worse

 

[Bluebell]

Ugh, sorry to hear that, this is the reason I haven't done pills in many a year, by last experience with MDMA was definately NOT what it said on the tin, I just knocked myself out with valium in the end...I'm hugely frustrated by illegality and all the shit that comes with it, I'm VERY fussy about my drugs, I want what it's supposed to fucking be, not something vaguely similar with a bit of this and that chucked in for good measure like, it would seem, the average drug user on the street is perfectly, stupidly happy to accept - argh!

Sad really that lots of people dont really know what there taking is supposed to be like, as they have been sold bunk for so long!

For instance someone told me they tried a pill and wasnt impressed! In my mind that pill had no MDMA in it, as everyone is impressed with there first proper MDMA hit, nothing like it!

 

[specialspack]

Ketamine for me, completely.

Not because it told me secret truths (which it felt like it did).
Not because it made me feel amazing (which it did).
Not because it has that excellent "brain rinse and reset" function sometimes.

But because it allowed me to see and feel things that were so unreal, so fantastical that they can't be properly described. It literally showed me different ways of existential Being. When I worked out after many years that all it showed me was games, puzzles in my own mind, it didn't matter, because it had simply shown me that it was possible to experience other ways of Being, which is possibly the greatest change of perspective you can get.

 

[connexion23]

Doet ...

 

[Allein]

I find ketamine occasionally is like pressing the reset button on your modem. Obviously if you keep pressing the reset button on a modem it's going to fuck up pretty rapidly. I also find that ecstasy helps me to remember what it is like to be properly happy, like when you're young, which is refresing. However, the more you do that the greater the depression afterwards, which totally cancels out how good you felt that night. Rockstar mate, I hope you're right and you are over this whole mess, but from experience i've found it takes a bit longer than 5 weeks. I dunno, maybe i'm a weaker person or I don't do enough ket.

Showing your age there Mr Bunts "modem" most of them won't know what one of those is !!! I( yes and I do know that technically and ADSL router is one but thats way too techy, for almost all its a router)

 

[Mugz]

deleted - was being a bit hypocritical saying that people should let things go over your head instead of getting angry, biting the bait, when I was getting involved in something that wasn't anything to do with me, I am letting it go over my head instead.

 

[scrooloose]

In the long term,no drug will ever make anything better.

I have taken LSD once in my existance and it was the most positive,mind cleansing experience i have ever felt. I felt emotions i never thought i was capable of feeling.

For four years (early thirties back then) i never touched any mind altering substance. Motivation flowed,then itchy feet and boredom kicked in.

 

[knock]

In the long term,no drug will ever make anything better.

I have taken LSD once in my existance and it was the most positive,mind cleansing experience i have ever felt. I felt emotions i never thought i was capable of feeling.

For four years (early thirties back then) i never touched any mind altering substance. Motivation flowed,then itchy feet and boredom kicked in.

So in the long run, restraint from drugs didn't help either?

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

In the long term,no drug will ever make anything better.

Yeah but at least with consumerism you get 'things'. "Person with most toys at the end is the winner"....RIP Inonzi Prowler, best line on EADD ever.

Oh but I suppose you're talking about antibiotics Mr Scroo.

Ignore me. Life is shit tonight.

 

[scrooloose]

^Yes,i should have elaborated. I was reminscing.