Drugs that make you better........

[rockstar 69]

I'm not sure about the title of the thread but I feel like there are certain drugs you learn things from, or they make you better in some ways. For me it's K. This year from april-sept I've had some real bad times, being busted was one of them, that was ballbreaking simply because everyone then knows your a 'druggy'. But far worse was all that crack with those Einstein pills, literally watched my mate die infront of me. For about two weeks after I'd have nightmares reliving the same scenario, depressed, unfit and felt like life had no direction.

All that misery out of the way I started using dissociatives, mainly K, infact it's the only thing I will attribute this to. I am now feeling brilliant just less than 5 weeks since all that happened. Now my head is far more levelled. The K let me escape a bit at first, but then it showed me things aren't so bad and I've gotta just move on. It gave me motivation to do insane work outs, get back into the social scene, hell I'm even getting a second chance at my old job which anyone would have thought I'd permanently fucked!

Even I am literally amazed at the changes in myself over just 5 weeks. The girl I'm getting in about I'm going totally off my usual tactics I've been completely honest and accepting with her, so there is no cracking in the foundations before we try build a relationship. It's like my head is just so much clearer, my thinking more concise and I am more decisive.

Really feel like Ketamine has shown me my true potential. Every single person I've seen in the last week I know I have left a positive impact on cos my crack has been good and they've probably gone off thinking I'm a cracker.

Anyway, that's my chat. Anyone got any similar stories?

 

[Darksidesam]

dissociatives...
I myself have tried Ketamine, DXM and methoxetamine.

My life before ketamine was a manic depressed evil mess, Ever since its been very different i no longer spiral out of control, I look back on my life and can realise now why some days things went wrong or why i suddenly pissed people off or stuff like that.

Im so stable since ive been using it as treatment,
One dose once a week prefferably, 200mg.

Without it, i get these sinking evil thoughts of suicide and my mind has to battle it "no you have to look after your dog what about everyone you will hurt when you die" but its like part of me is sinking further and further and i just see death as the only way out of the misery!
Except.. K takes this misery away.
Its a miracle cure for me Tbh .

Also im a bit of an anxious person and socially awkward, when i use mdma i feel much more settled in a large crowded environment and i can actually enjoy my night out so much more.
For example i go into a shopping center and i get anxiety and freak out a bit.

 

[rockstar 69]

Also im a bit of an anxious person and socially awkward, when i use mdma i feel much more settled in a large crowded environment and i can actually enjoy my night out so much more.
For example i go into a shopping center and i get anxiety and freak out a bit.

This bit really intrests me. I was socially awkward after all that happened aswell, there were only about 3 people I would speak to about things infact. Now I've opened right up. It also seems to have gave me far more motivation in my fitness, health, what I want to do and relationships.

It's almost unbelievable when I think about it. The government should be prescribing ketamine as an anti depressant I think really. Society would probably benefit greatly.

 

[Darksidesam]

Trouble is.
As you cant get it from your Gp once a week,
You have to have very great self control to use it that way.

But if they offered that service, even people with no self control should be better off.

 

[Mugz]

I'm not sure about the title of the thread but I feel like there are certain drugs you learn things from, or they make you better in some ways. For me it's K. This year from april-sept I've had some real bad times, being busted was one of them, that was ballbreaking simply because everyone then knows your a 'druggy'. But far worse was all that crack with those Einstein pills, literally watched my mate die infront of me. For about two weeks after I'd have nightmares reliving the same scenario, depressed, unfit and felt like life had no direction.

All that misery out of the way I started using dissociatives, mainly K, infact it's the only thing I will attribute this to. I am now feeling brilliant just less than 5 weeks since all that happened. Now my head is far more levelled. The K let me escape a bit at first, but then it showed me things aren't so bad and I've gotta just move on. It gave me motivation to do insane work outs, get back into the social scene, hell I'm even getting a second chance at my old job which anyone would have thought I'd permanently fucked!

Even I am literally amazed at the changes in myself over just 5 weeks. The girl I'm getting in about I'm going totally off my usual tactics I've been completely honest and accepting with her, so there is no cracking in the foundations before we try build a relationship. It's like my head is just so much clearer, my thinking more concise and I am more decisive.

Really feel like Ketamine has shown me my true potential. Every single person I've seen in the last week I know I have left a positive impact on cos my crack has been good and they've probably gone off thinking I'm a cracker.

Anyway, that's my chat. Anyone got any similar stories?

Was it not more the recent circumstances that led you to analyse your life so far and then you making a decision to become "better" I think you need to give yourself some more credit and take some away from ketamine. Did you not know that you had potential before? I think that you always had potential and I don't think ketamine showed you the potential, I just think that you have grown up a lot more and realised it by yourself, and that it is coincidentally the same time that you have been doing ketamine.

Take some credit mate

 

[Kronos]

Can't say i've had a drug thats made me better, cause i ended up abusing it. MDMA and other stims made me more sociable, benzos are a part of who i am today, k made me self explore and open my mind more than owt, but then there are k cramps etc.. Opiates are all i wanted rolled int one, would let me breeze through life being a happy carefree me but come at a mental, often physical due to inconsistency and financial price.
And the rest of em that i've done, but i guess they all roll into experiences, memories and pattern out who i am today. Made me better in many ways and worse in many others.. Probably better overall though

 

[Allein]

Without a controlled experiment which would require a replica of me living the same life but without any drugs I can't answer the question.

LSD seemed to confirm many things and opened me up to the lack of any real substance to what many see as reality, fro me it ws like comming home.

MDMA / MDA gave me many nights I'll never forget almost 100% positive, the comedown was almost always worth the high and it was sustainable over 7-8 years. It gave me so much more then it ever took away.

Speed - kept me awake

Coke - What a waste of time and money - a strange one for me I didn't even seem to enjoy it but still got a habit

Hash was my love - I had a heavy habit for 15 years I think it helped me stay a calmer person, in many ways if I could go back to smoking hash with tobacco I don't think I'd need Ads or Benzos, but I juts cant go back to the baccy, it was to painful getting off.

Benzos - Well they've crept in over the last couple of years, there are times when they have held me together and times when I've just plain abused them, mostly the latter

 

[brimz]

My methadone every day
oh yeah can't forget the 16 year benzo script,

Agree with Mugz , i think you should look more at yourself than ketamine , n give yourself the credit not some horse tranquiliser which is not really good for you in the long term . Its ok now n again but folk still end up in trouble with it , often needing cathaters n i woulda thought you'd had enough of them

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

Was it not more the recent circumstances that led you to analyse your life so far and then you making a decision to become "better" I think you need to give yourself some more credit and take some away from ketamine. Did you not know that you had potential before? I think that you always had potential and I don't think ketamine showed you the potential, I just think that you have grown up a lot more and realised it by yourself, and that it is coincidentally the same time that you have been doing ketamine.

Take some credit mate

While agreeing with the sentiment here (or centiment if you prefer Codders) I still think there's an argument for ketamine being the catalyst that has brought out what was (as you correctly state) already inside.

Drugs help us feel better. That's why doctors use them.

 

[Danny Weed]

Cannabis makes me feel batter in just about every way possible. It improves my mood, kills my anxiety, allows me to socialise, allows me to sleep, kills the pain of my TMD, stops the nausea I get from gastritis.

MDMA helped me but also hindered my life a bit, It allowed me to see through peoples disguises and exposed them as snakes. I dont trust anyone now except family.

The only other drug I take now is morphine and I am trying to stop that.

 

[Mental Kenny]

AMT turns me into a warm feeling do-gooder, I find myself symphatizing with the suffering I see on tv, giving change to the homeless, treating girls in a respectful manner, and so on, while normally I'm a total cunt to everybody except my close mates, I even let cyclist cross the road when I'm driving, instead of accelerating and shouting at them.

 

[Acidtek]

Rockstar take it easy, don't want to be piss on your bonfire but you have to be really carefull with dissassociatives, the feeling that they are making you better and helping you escape is what makes you run into trouble with them, it's what turn occasional use into everyday use, as someone mentioned oh the stomach cramps! Look after yourself buddy!

 

[Acid4Blood]

Daily dissociatives prevent processing of true emotion. These emotions need to be processed & will be processed once the use of the dissociative stops. The longer the postponement, the harder the emotional explosion once daily use stops.
As much as K is a great anti-depressant it will totally bite you in the ass if daily use continues for too long without time to soberly process feelings/emotion.

just my experience & 2cent.

 

[Acidtek]

Exactly!

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

I find ketamine occasionally is like pressing the reset button on your modem. Obviously if you keep pressing the reset button on a modem it's going to fuck up pretty rapidly. I also find that ecstasy helps me to remember what it is like to be properly happy, like when you're young, which is refresing. However, the more you do that the greater the depression afterwards, which totally cancels out how good you felt that night. Rockstar mate, I hope you're right and you are over this whole mess, but from experience i've found it takes a bit longer than 5 weeks. I dunno, maybe i'm a weaker person or I don't do enough ket.

 

[rockstar 69]

While agreeing with the sentiment here (or centiment if you prefer Codders) I still think there's an argument for ketamine being the catalyst that has brought out what was (as you correctly state) already inside.

Drugs help us feel better. That's why doctors use them.

Yeah your pretty much bang on SHM. That's how I feel it's just levelled my head out and brought me out of the depressed, head fucked shell I was hiding in. For that though I can't be greatful and appreciative enough of what it has done for me.

Daily dissociatives prevent processing of true emotion. These emotions need to be processed & will be processed once the use of the dissociative stops. The longer the postponement, the harder the emotional explosion once daily use stops.
As much as K is a great anti-depressant it will totally bite you in the ass if daily use continues for too long without time to soberly process feelings/emotion.

just my experience & 2cent.

I disagree with this through my experiance. I'd already done all my crying and grieving before I got the K. Since then I have still explored it all in my mind in similar fashion just with less dismay and sadness and more acceptance of what's happened.

I've done in about 7gs in the last week. I'm off it today and have 2gs left for Sat with mates. After that I will be off it for a couple weeks anyway by the looks of it cos I can't get more of the same mindblowing shards anyway so I'll just wait. I don't think there will be any problems after anyway and it will let my stomach recover as I had been getting a touch of the K cramps.

Rockstar take it easy, don't want to be piss on your bonfire but you have to be really carefull with dissassociatives, the feeling that they are making you better and helping you escape is what makes you run into trouble with them, it's what turn occasional use into everyday use, as someone mentioned oh the stomach cramps! Look after yourself buddy!

I know mate, I have definately been caining the stuff and in all honesty I can totally see how a K addiction starts from this. It is fucking lovely stuff and by far the most positive and fun drug out there for me, I understand fully now why they call it Psychadelic Cocaine or Techno Smack, it really is. But I will be laying off it after the weekend probably for 2 weeks ish. I really am loving what it's done for me though. I'm usually a fit and healthy type person, I love my exercise and looking good, socialising in the pubs and chasing women. And it's got me back on track with all 3 of these aswell as the job hunt is looking likely I have 3 options and I will have one by next weekend.

Cheers for concern though people.

Surely other people must have stories like these through DMT, LSD and MDMA though. I plan to try DMT very soon, it sounds like a positive and inspiring exploring type drug.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

I think in general to get the most from DMT/LSD/MDMA in terms of 'fixing' yourself psychologically you need an experienced guide. Or at least that's what psychologists will tell you, whether they say that cus they wanna get paid I don't know.

 

[Myshkin]

While agreeing with the sentiment here (or centiment if you prefer Codders) I still think there's an argument for ketamine being the catalyst that has brought out what was (as you correctly state) already inside.

Drugs help us feel better. That's why doctors use them.

I think ketamine certainly could have been the catalyst. As William Burroughs said, you can't tell somebody something they don't already know, but many drugs can be useful for unlocking doors or giving you a new perspective. It's just important (as others have pointed out) to see them as tools to be used in self-development rather than as being the keys to self-development in themselves.

I've succesfully used mushrooms MDMA and LSD in a 'therapeutic' context, although at first I was just looking for a laugh out of them like most other people. MDMA and mushrooms in particular allowed me to begin to heal a lot of deep mental scarring and genuinely made me a better person, but it wouldn't necessarily have been so had I not been thinking about these things already.

I've fallen into the trap of thinking 'it's the acid / MDMA / whatever that's helping me' (as I'm sure have many others) and ended up in most cases taking at least two steps back for every stumble in the right direction. It took me a while to respect the drugs, and by that I don't mean revering them or being scared of them; that would take the fun right out. What I do mean is appreciating the benefits they can have on your psyche but also recognising that it's mostly your own work that will make you 'better' rather than what you're sticking up your nose.

 

[Acidtek]

Sam your so right!

 

[breakcorefiend]

Without a controlled experiment which would require a replica of me living the same life but without any drugs I can't answer the question.

LSD seemed to confirm many things and opened me up to the lack of any real substance to what many see as reality, fro me it ws like comming home.

MDMA / MDA gave me many nights I'll never forget almost 100% positive, the comedown was almost always worth the high and it was sustainable over 7-8 years. It gave me so much more then it ever took away.

Speed - kept me awake

Coke - What a waste of time and money - a strange one for me I didn't even seem to enjoy it but still got a habit

Hash was my love - I had a heavy habit for 15 years I think it helped me stay a calmer person, in many ways if I could go back to smoking hash with tobacco I don't think I'd need Ads or Benzos, but I juts cant go back to the baccy, it was to painful getting off.

Benzos - Well they've crept in over the last couple of years, there are times when they have held me together and times when I've just plain abused them, mostly the latter

Just need quality hash and a vapourizer and yer good to go