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Drugs, identity, and romance

kandykanex

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Hi friends,
I wanted to garner some opinions in regards the role and boundaries of drug use in relationships and the importance of each partner's identity. I recently began dating someone several months ago; we met in the music scene (which is quite remarkable because I generally try to avoid meeting men in this context, unless they are related to my group of friends). So now a little bit about our histories:

I was exposed to drugs at a young age due to an irresponsible family environment, fell into the snare of ketamine addiction as a teenager and subsequently recovered, abused ecstasy to the point of crashing, and have a family history and personal diagnoses of bipolar disorder (which is well under control, thankfully). I have not used ketamine since, abstained from MDMA for 5 years, and now I only use psychedelic occasionally and recently re-introduced MDMA into my life occasionally. I have lived through the naive progression into substance abuse, endured a difficulty recovery, and try to make educated/responsible decisions in regards to any current drug use.

My boyfriend is involved with music; we met in this circumstance. He had recently overdosed before we met (psychedelic; I am purposefully omitting details for identity sake) that was the straw that broke the camel's back of his last relationship (although this was a good thing, according to him, as each person was sort of checked out). He started using MDMA late in the game in comparison to me (I started at 15, he started around 22 I think), but used it much more frequently than I ever had (at least 1x/month compared to 1x/3-6months). He has cut back a bit, but indulges more frequently than me. He no longer enjoys using psychedelics (the drugs that don't make me crash), but only wants to use MDMA fairly frequently (which, with frequent use, can contribute to mood changes or chemical imbalances in me).

Now that you (hopefully) have enough history to evaluate my question, I would value any feedback to some of my questions. Doing drugs is a lot of fun and can be transcendental; I enjoy dancing the night away. However, I don't enjoy addiction or crashing and want to use drugs (esp. MDMA) responsibly. Moreover, I have taken great care of myself in the last few years and have a decent hold on my inherited mood disorder. In a perfect world, I wish my boyfriend would consider my history and compromise his drug use from time to time. I value sharing "trips" together, although I understand that each of us has our own identity and can essentially do whatever we want and benefit from personal experiences. He finds no significance in sharing drug-related experiences together. I have learned to have fun and go to shows without being dependent on drugs. However, I'll be the first to say that drugs are fun and can really enhance any experience! He says that each of us has had our own experiences and we should apply the lessons that we've learned. However, it's gotten to the point where I don't want to go to shows with him because I don't want to be tempted to do drugs all the time and fall into old patterns of behavior.

Is it fair to ask someone to compromise slightly (e.g., choose 1 show to use drugs at compared to using drugs at 2 shows in 1 week)? Is it unfair not to compromise if your partner has a history of mood imbalance and addiction? Should a partner have any regard for their partner's drug use in a relationship or remain entirely independent? Should my lack of self-control influence the decisions of my romantic partner?

I think I covered most of what I wanted to say - Thank you for any input!
 
I think it would be perfectly fair for you to ask him to take into your consideration your health and addiction issues in regards to his drug use - but keep it light. For instance I think it's appropriate to ask him not to do MDMA or whatever when he knows you're gonna be there as well, but if he wants to get high when you're not around I don't think that should be stopped (unless it gets to the point where it's really detrimental to him/the relationship obviously). But it does soundl ike you're quite understanding about the whole thing so I'm sure if you just suggest that to him it should be fine :)
 
But he won't compromise, even if I do attend shows. I understand that some of this boils down to my self-control, but I also think that any caring partner would compromise. I'm just not sure if that's a valid assumption...
 
Then maybe he isnt the right person for you at this time. You both love each other but love gets tricky when substances are involved hell it's tricky all on its own. Only you can decide if you are willing to be in a relationship with someone that uses mdma in your presence. Theres tons of different substances he ccould use tho. if that would be a compromise.
 
I can relate to this! I was dating a guy last year who was into drugs and we used together for almost 4 months and until the bad comedown happened from mdma. He didnt consider my health issues and how I had been suffering so I just had to dump him. At the end of the day a partner should consider another partners concerns and issues!
 
For most people drug abuse is corrosive in partner relationships...I guess it all depends what you envision in all this. If you hope to marry and have children together, I'll tell you right now...Choose your partner wisely. If you have a more or less open-ended view, then you'll just have to see how long you like to be with someone whose life-style is not devoted to what is best for both of you in the long-term...
Regardless of how mdma makes us feel...ultimately, drugs will not nurture greater intimacy loool...to the contrary...it's a selfish, self-centred pursuit where each individual is obsessing over feeling good...

Some exceptions will always stand out, like winning the lottery...but most of us fail to avoid the brokenness and strife that drugs bring along into partnership relations...
Best wishes.
 
dont be around him when he is taking mdma if it triggers you

if that means you dont spend enough time together then that should say enough
 
Always put your own well-being first.

My last relationship was a disaster, meth use being a huge contributor. Its painful to distance yourself from someone you care about, but if it harms you more than build you up, leave!!

I think it is totally possible to have a healthy relationship that includes drug use, it just requires the dedication of both people.
 
Be honest about how you feel and hopefully he will be considerate and compromise for you. Just don't expect it to happen because it may not and you will be disappointed/hurt.
 
He should compromise for you if he really loved you. Have a serious conversation with him and have him make a promise to you. If he doesn't... then, it may be time to take a break. Or maybe decide if losing him is really worth it and how much his drug habit is really bothering you. When people newly discovered ecstasy, there is always some crazy binge period (cuz it's so fucken awesome) but that only lasts for so long until you "lose the magic". Maybe it's just a phase? It really doesn't help since you both are prone to drug addictions. >.<
 
My last relationship almost lasted 5 years, then she started smoking crack with her "friend" and it all went downhill, fast.

I think I can say with 100% confidence that no one ever said, "Be wack, do crack."

That's all.

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To the OP, I know this sounds harsh, but its really hard to read your block of text in this forum context so I didn't fully read your post but I will respond to this question, "Should a partner have any regard for their partner's drug use in a relationship or remain entirely independent?"

Drugs fuck everything thing up and odds are people are fucked up if they resort to drugs.

I'll let that sink in for a minute.

Ok, all this is not to say that drugs are all "bad" or that people don't have reasonable justifications for turning to drugs. THE WORLD IS A VERY FUCKed UP PLACE. WE HAVE MODERN day slavery in third world sweat shops... It's motherfucking disgusting if you ask me.

Anyway, to answer your question, in theory you can construct any parameter you want for your relationship. All relationships are different. For all I know, someone out there could be in a relationship with a man or woman who is completely opioid dependent and they're 100% ok with it. They may not come out and say it it those terms but they will certainly continue to care for and support the person in question. These people are sometimes misconstrued and labeled "co-dependent" which I think is bullshit.

Since your relationships and needs are unique - only YOU can decide and create the standards for what you will and will not put up with - and its also up to you to enforce those standards... (and of course, accept the cost and benefits of sticking to those standards)

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That's all. I'll now sit here and wait for my Best Reply Advice of the Year award.
 
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